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EagerBeaver

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It's kind of sad that Jeter's career is ending on a sour note. He has been in a major tailspin since he was HBP by Joba Chamberlain- his batting average has dropped from .277 to .249, with very little power. The way he has performed in the second half is very reminiscent to me of Chili Davis's last year with the Yankees when he was an exclusive DH. Like Chili, they are pounding Jeter with fastballs inside and he just can't handle them like he once could.

Regarding the video SK posted, I heard that Jeter for many years was a regular customer at a Starbucks in Greenwich Village, not sure exactly where. This was when he lived in Manhattan. I think that Starbucks had a much younger crowd and it likely a better choice than any of the midtown Starbucks nearer to where Jeter lived, when he still lived at the Trump Tower which is midtown.
 

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Nice video K. I am a big Jeter fan and I think the game will miss him. He should have been a Tiger. Very Alan Trammel like.

But that is not what I come here to talk about. I want to talk about the worst player awards and the Arsonist of the year. How could this be Jim Johnson? Yes he was terrible but at least the A's had the good sense to release him. That should make him ineligible in my opinion. The true arsonist is none other than Joe Nathan. He blew a critical save two days ago against the Twins that would have put us up on KC by 2.5 games.

He is the worst closer in the majors in ERA (5.15), blown saves (7), K's/BB (1.9), WHIP. He is 2nd from the bottom in BA against. The good news is that he is doing all this for a mere $9MM/year....He turns 40 in November and Detroit has him for another year (next year's salary is $10MM).

But here is the really puzzling thing....Brad Ausmus keeps running him out there? Where are Tanya Harding's goons when you need them????? If we just used a AAA pitcher or closed by committee we would be up by 3 or 4 games.

Why in the world does Dave Dombrowski keep going after ancient closers that have lost 3mph on their fastball. Percival, Todd lob it over the plate Jones, Vaverde, and now Nathan.
 

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You should really address him as Mr. "Reigning World Series Champion" Red Sox fan. Hahahahaha.

Not for long, the bums are in last place. Don't you keep up with the current standings, Mr. K? I guess you were like the 95 year old man in 2003 who said "Yes we won it all in 1918."
 

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Michael (Pineda) was filthy tonight. With Tanaka (now healthy) and Michael looking like the pitcher the Yanks were hoping for all along when they made that trade with Seattle, the Yanks are in fine shape starting next season with one of the top 1-2 punches in all of MLB.

Looks like the injury bug got you a free dinner this time Special K my man, which I will take care of that on GGSex weekend bro. ;)
 

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Pineda has been a monster, although curiously his strikeouts are down from what they were with Seattle. He is pitching much better however. He is showing signs that if healthy the Yankees will have two number one ace type pitchers at the top of the order next year. A message was sent to the Orioles last night.

I believe that if Tanaka stays healthy he will win the Cy Young Award.
 

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BOYZZZ!

Michael (Pineda) was filthy tonight.

Ahhhhhh yes, good for him. It looks like someone told him he is pitching in the television age and there are cameras...O-M-G...watching, so he finally learned he needs to hide the stuff from the direct view of...hmmmmmmm...millions of people. No one can call him a moron any more. ;) Just what a team needs, a guy who will pitch 12 games a year and get 9 decisions with a LOSING record.

I believe that if Tanaka stays healthy he will win the Cy Young Award.

It's September 23, 2014. Time for all the pompously self-entitled Yankees fans to give away the big awards for 2015...now that all hope for this year is GONE!. I can't wait for Joe.t to come in and give the Yanks the Super Bowl and the Stanley Cup. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :crazy:

Okay, all tweaking you boyz aside, Pineda and Tanaka have shown flashes of dominance. Tanaka has shown he can be very consistent too. But both are highly questionable when it comes to whether they can endure a whole season at those standards. Tanaka barely made it through the first half of his first MLB season, and Pineda...12 games...c'mon.

Pfffssssst,

Merlot
 

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That was too bad about Tanaka. He was on a path to win the Cy Young and maybe Rookie of the Year.
 

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That was too bad about Tanaka. He was on a path to win the Cy Young and maybe Rookie of the Year.

Damn shame wasn't it? Hahahahaha. Now they're trotting him out there again and pushing their luck with a blown arm. Nice job Skanks, way to care of your future and your out of the picture team!!
 

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BOYZZZ!!!

Damn shame wasn't it? Hahahahaha. Now they're trotting him out there again and pushing their luck with a blown arm. Nice job Skanks, way to care of your future and your out of the picture team!!

The word on WEEI was the Yankees are anxious to test what Tanaka has left for the year and see if they he needs to go further, maybe for Tommy John surgery. Well, the late great Tanaka got shelled for 7 runs in only 1.2 innings. The future is not looking so good for their $155 million in 7 years almost-a-superstar.

Funny also what the Yanks are trotting out for starters today with 4 players hitting .199 or less, in fact there are four of them at .182, .167, .162, .125. What a pile of nothing for a $200 million team. Only one Sox player, and 6 of them are rookies today, has an average under .200...and he's playing injured.

Joe Kelly had an awesome day until the 8th. He for one was very excited to face the great Jetes before the last time, but only to blow him completely away. A 99 mph fastball baffled the old guy like a raw rookie in the 1st.

I seriously considered going to Sunday's game to see old Jetes for the last time. But with the sky high prices and worse seats left I passed.

They say the Sox will do a little to honor Jetes in his last day. So far the Boston fans have given him standing ovations and as one of the most outstanding and remarkably unblemished players baseball ever had he deserves something significant, but let's leave the fly over jets in the hanger. He's still part of the no damn good EVIL EMPIRE after all. :D

Cheers,

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Damn shame wasn't it? Hahahahaha. Now they're trotting him out there again and pushing their luck with a blown arm. Nice job Skanks, way to care of your future and your out of the picture team!!

BOYZZZ!!!

They say the Sox will do a little to honor Jetes in his last day. So far the Boston fans have given him standing ovations and as one of the most outstanding and remarkably unblemished players baseball ever had he deserves something significant, but let's leave the fly over Jets in the hanger. He's still part of the no damn good EVIL EMPIRE after all. :D

Cheers,

Merlot

Oh, the classlessness of typical Red Sox fans shines through.

I will post another post. I don't want to mix the ridiculous with the sublime. :D
 

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An honest appraisal of Derek Jeter

I did not grow up in New York. I have lived in the NYC metropolitan area for the past 15 years.

I first got a glimpse at Derek Jeter from a neighbor of mine when I lived in another state. He was a Yankees fan and he didn't have a television set. He wanted to see the 1996 World Series between the Atlanta Braves and the Yankees. I liked watching championship sports matches no matter who was playing. So I let him watch with me. He was a gracious guest bringing popcorn and some beer.

The Yankees had a good team in 1996. The Yankees had Tino Martinez, Joe Girardi, Charlie Hayes, Wade Boggs, Bernie Williams, Paul O'Neill, Daryl Strawberry (remember him?) pitchers David Cone, Kenny Rogers, Andy Petitte. It was before Roger Clemens joined the Yankees from the Blue Jays (and before Red Sox).

Jeter batted only .250 in that series. but he hit that key controversial home run which that kid caught in the stands. Jeter batted .361 in the playoffs including the WS in 1996. He was voted Rookie of the Year in 1996. So Jeter caught my attention. I was not a Yankees fan, as my neighbor yelled it up as the Yankees won each game. I just thought the NY Yankees were an interesting team.

Over the 20 years that Jeter played, the NY Yankees won 5 World Series championships. His contribution was greater and his supporting team members were far more talented when he started (championships 1996, 1998, 1999, 2000) than in his last championship in 2009.

He was an average fielder at shortstop. He was nowhere near the great Ozzie Smith of the St. Louis Cardinals as far as range and throwing ability. Jeter's hitting ranked up with Roberto Clemente, the great one with the Pittsburgh Pirates. Although Clemente was a far more talented fielder than Jeter. Jeter was more of the Pete Rose model. Jeter hustled where he lacked the natural ability. That famous flip to Posada to get Jeremy Giambi out at home. Talented enough to make the big leagues, but not exceptionally talented. There are 2 quotes of Jeter's represent his career. One, Brian Cashman had met Jeter at a diner to discuss his fielding range. Cashman told Jeter that his range was in question. Jeter reaction was "Why didn't you tell me that I was lacking in this area so I could work on it?" And the second quote was recent during an interview where he said "I may not have been among the most talented to play, there are others more talented, but no one works as hard as I do."

So in Jeter's self-assessment, he was a workhorse. He was tenacious and he got the job done. Today was the 3rd game of Jeter's career where his team was not in contention for the playoffs or had made the playoffs. Tomorrow's game will be the 4th game. Say what you want to about the Yankees during Jeter's era, but the guy was a contender throughout his career.
 

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I never realized that his range was such a problem. I wonder why the Yankees just didn't put him at 3rd the last year and 1/2. Kind of like Jhonny Peralta of the Tigers now Cardinals. Both could carry the bat of ta 3rd basemen easily.
 

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I never realized that his range was such a problem. I wonder why the Yankees just didn't put him at 3rd the last year and 1/2. Kind of like Jhonny Peralta of the Tigers now Cardinals. Both could carry the bat of ta 3rd basemen easily.

His defense was atrocious. Never should have even sniffed a gold glove. His career WAR is negative! Meaning they would have had better fielding from a replacement AAA player at SS. He did bring some intangibles to the table however his defense was below average.
 

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His defense was atrocious. Never should have even sniffed a gold glove. His career WAR is negative! Meaning they would have had better fielding from a replacement AAA player at SS. He did bring some intangibles to the table however his defense was below average.

I don't think his defense was atrocious like SK does, but he was of an average shortstop, or maybe slightly below average in the Big Leagues:

His Defensive WAR over his 20 year career was -9.7. That would average to -0.485 Games per year. He had only 3 positive Defensive WAR years. It definitely not HOF caliber, but the Yankees were not losing too many games with Jeter at shortstop, and they were not gaining many games with him there either, defense-wise. Jeter would be a middle of the road fielder in the big leagues, maybe a little less. He did sometimes make up with his lack of range with his hustle and awareness. Jeter was a fast base runner, but lateral movement and a natural jump on the ball is not necessarily equated with running foot speed.

His Offensive WAR was 95.3, which was an excellent 4.765 games per year. That is definitely HOF caliber.

The Yankees made up with Jeter on offense with what he lacked on defense. Many players are of equal skill defensively and offensively.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/j/jeterde01.shtml?redir
 

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BOYZ!

I never realized that his range was such a problem. I wonder why the Yankees just didn't put him at 3rd the last year and 1/2.

It's the price of having an icon the team and the fans let become more important than what's best for the team. Why not just move him to 3rd unless you're so hard up for a shortstop that there's no better choice.

Oh, the classlessness...

Jeter's last game at Yankee Stadium. The team and the fans...indeed the baseball world would love to see the pinstriped paragon go out with a fantasy finish. Well, there was no chance of a World Series Game 7 winning home run, so how about a walkoff game winning hit spoiling the drive of a playoff bound team trying to earn the best record. KAZAAAM!!! There it is and all the world enjoys some pinstriped koolaid for at least a moment in Jeter's honor. PERFECT!

Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr wait. Just as the players get back to the clubhouse trying to pull themselves together to wish the fondest farewell to one of the greatest Yankees of all time...whew...it's going to be so emotional. How do you deal with that? Joe Girardi takes the floor with everyone expecting some sort of uniquely special moment to honor Jetes and...RRRRRRRIIIIIIPPPPPPPPPPPPPP he starts tearing the team a new one. Angrily chiding the team, you guys are "overweight"...you're not "hungry". Well, hey Joe, thanks for creating a memory at just the right moment that will live for the ages.

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Thanks coach, grrreat timing bud. What class. ;)

Cheers,

Merlot
 

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So the City of Angels is becoming the City of Champions. After the Kings, now the Dodgers and the Galaxy and in June 2015 the Kings again!
 
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