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2015 /2016 Habs thread. GO HABS GO !

Doc Holliday

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Earlier today i had heard that the habs had contacted the Oilers about RNH's availability. Well, it looks like a trade won't happen. RNH broke his hand and his status is he'll be out long-term.
 

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Koivu was never a first line centre...the Habs had no choice to put him there because they could never find a real front line centre that could be a superstar.

Perhaps Damphousse is the closest...but he also played left wing.

And here is a name from the past....Pierre Turgeon ("Chicken Pierre") who played only 1 full season for the Habs...not really a stamp of approval on his skills at centre!

You're quite correct about Saku Koivu not really being a front-line center, but i have a feeling he may be inducted into the hockey hall-of-fame one day. Of course, i know the fact he captained the habs may have increased the odds, especially how he battled and came back from cancer. I don't want to be harsh, but it's the honest true. It didn't hurt his chances to get in.

And you're probably correct about Damphousse, since i also remember him playing the wing when he started out with the Leafs.

I've always liked Pierre Turgeon, though. I didn't know about his nickname and that he remained on the bench during that infamous brawl against the Russians. Are you sure about this? That's the first time i had heard about that.

They did have the great Denis Savard before this, but he was nearly at the end of his career when he played for the habs. I still shake my head when i think about that trade, when they traded future hall-of-famer and Norris trophy winner Chris Chelios for Savard. When i hear habs fans saying "yeah, but they won the Cup with Savard", i laugh. Savard barely played in those playoffs due to injury. He did didn't do anything to help the team win. But had they kept Chelios, they may have won more Cups instead of just that one nearly 23 years ago.
 

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A year ago after Brian Gionta & Josh Gorges were kicked out of Montreal, i had posted here that i believed it was a huge mistake to get rid of their two biggest leaders. Not only leaders, but well-respected veterans. Others in the media said the same thing. Who would get up and show the way if the team hit a slump? However, they lucked out last season. They nearly didn't have any injuries. They were the team with the least injuries in the entire NHL. Of course, they were saved regularly by Carey Price's heroics. And this season, they got rid of their heart n' soul in Brandon Prust, which was a mistake. Especially when you replace him with Zack Kassian, a player with no character whatsoever and a player where problems consider follow him.

Well, their best player (by far!!!) goes down for a few months and what's happening is what i had predicted would happen a year ago. A team in total panic mode with few leaders on the team. Few?? No leaders!!!

And now the fans have started booing Markov. Next it'll be Pacioretty and Subban. And on and on. Meanwhile, the GM isn't doing anything to help his coach. Seriously, could anyone win with this bunch???

But i don't believe they'll replace the coach since the GM gave him a 4-year extension just a few months ago, plus the fact there's not really anyone out there available who'll do any better. Plus the coach has to be bilingual since it's Montreal, after all. The name Guy Boucher has been floating around, but i can't see this as an improvement. Yesterday they were even mentioning Marc Crawford!!! Heck, i'm surprised the names Guy Carbonneau and Mario Tremblay haven't been mentioned so far! What a circus!!! Cirque du Soleil!!!
 
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Well look on the good side, the Habs are now draft lottery eligible. Maybe they will win the first overall pick. Think positive and good things happen. But I'm not ready to throw in the towel just yet. They are working hard and nobody is pointing fingers. They are sticking together through this difficult time. Bring on the Leafs!
 

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I'm currently listening to an idiot on the radio who's telling the hosts the solution to the habs' offensive woes is to put Subban on the wing since he's the most offensive player and the hardest shot.

Unbelievable!! :noidea:
 

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Since December 3rd, the habs have only 9 points, which leads the NHL by far for worst record since that date. Next are the Rangers, Predators and Blue Jackets tied at 18 points. Quite a margin between last place and the rest.

Speaking of the Preds, it's surprising how negatively the Ryan Johansen/Seth Jones negatively affected that team. Sometimes when a team is going well, the last thing it should do is to alter team chemistry.

As for the Rangers, they're slump is mind-boggling considering how stacked that team is.

As for the Jackets, it's obvious that bringing in Tortorella was a mistake. To be honest, i thought he'd never coach a team again after his recent disasterous coaching stints.

Meanwhile, the likes of Randy Carlyle, Guy Boucher and Ron Wilson are still unemployed. Go figure!
 

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Guy Boucher is a name being floated out there to coach the Canadians if Therrien is let go. Silly organization with there language standards, Why not have the best person available for the job, whether they can speak a lick of French or not? I say keep up those standards les canadian, because it means no cup for quite some time. All the best French minds in Hockey have gone to the states. (hate to say it thought but i think Boucher would crack the whip and get that team a few W's and maybe put them on the right track) Keep Therrien and Bargain Bin Bergervin!! lol.......

Since December 3rd, the habs have only 9 points, which leads the NHL by far for worst record since that date. Next are the Rangers, Predators and Blue Jackets tied at 18 points. Quite a margin between last place and the rest.

Speaking of the Preds, it's surprising how negatively the Ryan Johansen/Seth Jones negatively affected that team. Sometimes when a team is going well, the last thing it should do is to alter team chemistry.

As for the Rangers, they're slump is mind-boggling considering how stacked that team is.

As for the Jackets, it's obvious that bringing in Tortorella was a mistake. To be honest, i thought he'd never coach a team again after his recent disasterous coaching stints.

Meanwhile, the likes of Randy Carlyle, Guy Boucher and Ron Wilson are still unemployed. Go figure!
 

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I don't think Guy Boucher would be the answer. But he'd definitely be a fresh face (although a bit scarred....). The fact the coach has to speak french is a joke considering they haven't put any emphasis on having more french players on the team. Were i a french-canadian habs supporter, i'd be incensed about this.

As i pointed out over the years, this team seems to have a major big hard-on for European players. And although it has not been mentioned yet, i think there lies the leadership problem with that team. The top Europeans (and there are many of those on the team) are simply under-performing right now and appear indifferent to what's going on. Plekanec & Markov don't seem to care, and Galchenyuk's head seems to be between Chanel's thighs. Lars Eller is Lars Eller: invisible as always.

I don't mind having Europeans on a team, but just not too many of them. And the ones i'd want on my team either have to be highly-skilled or have character, for example Alex Ovechkin & Geno Malkin for high skills, and Leo Komarov & Roman Polak types who have as much character as any North American player in the league. The aforementioned players play with passion and a desire to win.

By the way, all year long last season people were talking about habs prospect Nikita Sherbak (yep, another Russian!). Some idiots were predicting he'd be on the big team this season, only a year or two after being drafted. I haven't heard a single mention of his name this season. So what's up with him?

(I remember the day he got drafted, he looked like a 14 year old kid!)
 

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Didn't Sherback get hurt?

First time i hear about this. But it wouldn't surprise me. He looked like a 14-year old midget when they drafted him. I first thought it was a joke and that he was the draftee's kid brother or something. Of course, he fit the mold: european and small.
 

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The other day, i learned that the night Zack Kassian had his accident, he wasn't the only habs player in the vehicle with the other two girls. There was at least one more player who ran away soon after the accident happened. What i'm told about this particular player was that he wasn't on the opening night roster when the season started. He started the season in St-John's.
 

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Habs swept by the last-place Columbus Blue Jackets. Unbelievable!!!

Maybe losing Tortorella for those two games was a blessing for the Jackets. They played very well for Craig Hartsburg.
 

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The habs lost again. This time, 4-2 to the Flyers. I honestly don't ever recall an NHL team in such a free fall. Not the Leafs, not the Jackets, not the Oilers, etc. The current hab team may actually be the worst hab team of all time!!!! Even the 1974 Washington Capitals would likely beat them today!!

It's not funny, folks!!! If they continue playing like shit, they'll sink even lower in the standings and unfortunately will be in a position to draft one of the top prospects come next June!! The doc now wants the habs to make the playoffs!!

And Carey Price has yet to skate with his equipment on! And to make matters worse, now i'm hearing that knee surgery is definitely an option they're currently considering in order to have him ready come training camp!! Come on, Bergevin!! Time to show the folks that you're not getting paid just to look good in your expensive suits! Time to shave that depressing beard (is that the Leo DiCaprio "The Revenant" look??) and start to make trades to improve this sad-sack team before it's too late to make the playoffs!!

Marc Bergevin: WORST GM IN HOCKEY!!!
 

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Brendan Prust has been put on waivers by the Canucks. It's not expected other teams will claim him and he'll likely be sent down to the minors unless the habs claim him. Should the habs claim him??

My answer is no. But it wouldn't surprise me if Bergevin decided to claim him in hoping he'll change the current negative mood in the dressing room.

Any other GM would fire Michel Therrien. But Bergevin promised the world that it wouldn't happen this season. Will Bergevin go back on his promise??? If he does, orders will have come from the majority owner. The majority owner loves money and he wants to make the playoffs a.s.a.p!!!!
 

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Bad news for habs fans

Carey Price suffered a setback this morning while skating and hurt his right knee. Frustrated, he broke his stick and skated off the ice. As i've been saying over the past two months, Price would never be 100% healthy unless he underwent knee surgery. And as i've been saying from day 1, don't be surprised if his season is over.

If the habs are serious about making the postseason, it's time to deal for a #1 goalie now. James Reimer would be perfect since he's on an expiring contract. Jonathan Bernier is also available, but has a year left to go.
 

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Wow, that's the final straw on the season unless Reimer is traded to save the day, but will the Canadian give up a fucale or a first rounder to get him?
Bad news for habs fans

Carey Price suffered a setback this morning while skating and hurt his right knee. Frustrated, he broke his stick and skated off the ice. As i've been saying over the past two months, Price would never be 100% healthy unless he underwent knee surgery. And as i've been saying from day 1, don't be surprised if his season is over.

If the habs are serious about making the postseason, it's time to deal for a #1 goalie now. James Reimer would be perfect since he's on an expiring contract. Jonathan Bernier is also available, but has a year left to go.
 

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I doubt the price for Reimer will be this high. He's on an expiring contract and he shopped his services around prior to this season and no one wanted him. It's also no big secret he'd like to move out west where he's from. He's also injury-prone, unfortunately. The Leafs would be lucky to get a 2nd-round pick for him. No way the habs part with Fucale since Carey Price's future is in doubt and he's no longer a young pup. Plus, he has a very serious knee injury and you know what happens to goalies with bad knees: early retirement. Just look at Mike Palmateer.
 

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I doubt the price for Reimer will be this high. He's on an expiring contract and he shopped his services around prior to this season and no one wanted him. It's also no big secret he'd like to move out west where he's from. He's also injury-prone, unfortunately. The Leafs would be lucky to get a 2nd-round pick for him. No way the habs part with Fucale since Carey Price's future is in doubt and he's no longer a young pup. Plus, he has a very serious knee injury and you know what happens to goalies with bad knees: early retirement. Just look at Mike Palmateer.

In any case, Reimer is not the solution. Did you guys have a chance to see the AHL all stars? Peter Budaj (yes that Peter Budaj) is tearing up the AHL, 1.67 GAA, 7 shutouts! Another example how Habs' main issue is NHL scouting. Would it have been so bad to keep Budaj all these years? Awful NHL scouting...Maybe Bergevin will find us another 3rd or 4th liner, yeah, that's the solution.
 

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Habs are finished while MT and these 4th liners are still all here.

This year is an utter disappointment. How do you free fall from being the Top of the league to the laughing stock of the league? For one, Price is injured. Yes he is an important part of the team, but he does not score goals. So what changed since he was injured? Everyone is harping on Confidence and believing in the System. The THERRIBLE (Ooops Therrien) system. Sorry but the SYSTEM FUCKING SUCKS!!! The system depends on Price pretty much taking care of the back end alone since the Defensive Crops SUCKS and producing as the opponent is recovering from the dazzling save Price made! They play differently when he is in nets cause he at least covers a large percent of the mistakes the Defense makes.

I am wrong? Subban is a Norris trophy Defenseman and is the reason we are not lower in the standings? When the hell do you see Subban playing DEFENSE? Sure he is all flash and zoom and woah, but so is David Copperfield. He tends to lose the puck in the offensive zone more often than trying to take a shot.

Markov? Time to retire buddy, thanks for your service. Bergevin supposedly is very business minded when it comes to making his decisions. Markov is a liability. He is 4 steps behind the skaters and his giving up the puck (Like Subban does) in the offensive zone many times have cost us potentially game tying points recently. He is good on the offense, one of the QBs of the PP. How has that gotten us goals lately? The fucking PP is HIDEOUS once again!

Emelin has no hockey sense and makes retarded plays all of the fucking time. The only thing he is good at is Hitting. In that case bring up John Scott. The rest of the D Corps are not worth mentioning because they are average at best. Of course due to all of this "depth" they let go of a potential Solid D man who never got to play due to him not fitting into the System. Tinnordi, I hope you develop into another McDonagh. Maybe that is too much to ask but I think he should become better than anything we have below Subban, if developed right.

On Offense, the biggest fucking mistake is putting DD on the ice so much. Yes he CAN feed the other players/ is a playmaker, but has he been? Nope, He is on the fucking PP! He works hard but he in no way deserves to be on the ice so fucking much. He is also a major douche but that is another story! Personally I think he allows visits to the Greek Isles and gives MT BBBJs with swallow to get all the time he has on the ice!

Galchenyuk has the talent and decent size but MT loves to make him his whipping boy! The COACH has fucked up the development of this young stud and IMO, lead to the fact that he gets beat by his GF! (OK OK, that was too easy but still funny as fuck). He should be #1 center, he needs to play more and learn more at that position to become the guy we drafted him to become.

Paccioretty is just there. He is a sniper, but he seems to have no passion or emotion to his game. He is like a crash test dummy that can score. Captain material, NOT! Frankly he is not showing the rest of the boys the leadership they need.

Honestly, the only guy who gives his all every single shift and is the heart and soul of the team is Gallagher. To me the only plus of the team. Everyone else is sub par. Yes, I am talking about mr "I Can't Score on a breakaway to save my life now" Plekanec and The Dutch Gretzky Weisse. Smith Pelly is a bust as well, hardly ever using his size and I am not seeing any flash of skill from him at all. Maybe he has the "itis" prior to each game. Eller, is also under used and he is lacking the finishing touch. The rest are pretty much fillers that MB thought he got deals on.

So what has changed since Price got injured? Nothing. The reality of MB's diamonds in the rough mainly turned out to be Cubic Zirconia after all. They over achieved while Price was erasing their mistakes and now that Condon is showing why he only makes a good back up, they fell apart like a house of cards. Time to change the WHOLE coaching staff, maybe only keep the Goalie Coach, but there is no way in hell we are going to have a competitive team for the next while as we keep this useless coaching staff and his system here and the GM who backs him up.

My two cents, agree or not.

CA OUT!!!

Once a passionate Habs fan but saving my passion for the girls of Merb... ;)
 
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