From reporter Stu Cowan: "Reporters playing Benny Hill theme song in press box in Brossard waiting for possible official announcement of Habs trade for John Scott."
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2015 /2016 Habs thread. GO HABS GO !
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Word is that John Scott and Stefan Elliott are the players heading back to Montreal for Jared Tinordi. So basically, it's an all-star and a journeyman for another prospect.
I have no idea who Stefan Elliott is. :noidea:
p.s. I just heard that the Coyotes put both players on waivers this season and there were no takers.
I have no idea who Stefan Elliott is. :noidea:
p.s. I just heard that the Coyotes put both players on waivers this season and there were no takers.
The habs could have picked up both players on waivers this season. Nobody else did.
But look on the bright side:
The habs are getting an all-star captain in the trade. Many have complained that one big problems with the habs is a lack of leadership. Well, maybe that's why Marc Bergevin decided to pick up John Scott in the trade for former first-round pick Jared Tinordi.
Marc Bergevin must really hate Jared Tinordi.
But look on the bright side:
The habs are getting an all-star captain in the trade. Many have complained that one big problems with the habs is a lack of leadership. Well, maybe that's why Marc Bergevin decided to pick up John Scott in the trade for former first-round pick Jared Tinordi.
Marc Bergevin must really hate Jared Tinordi.
Now i'm hearing that the habs are sending Stefan Elliott to Nashville for some guy named Victor Bartley. He was playing for their farm team and has two points. He's expected to play for St-John's this season.
p.s. I just tried to make the Tinordi trade on my PS4 NHL Hockey game and the trade was refused!
p.s. I just tried to make the Tinordi trade on my PS4 NHL Hockey game and the trade was refused!
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november
People were complaining that the habs were short on size, leadership and toughness. So there you go. They got one of the biggest players to ever lace on skates, he's an all-star captain and he fights. A 3-in-1 package!
The habs have sent down all-star forward John Scott and have recalled Victor Bartley from St-John's.
Another rumour circulating is that they just offered Carey Price to the Leafs for Stephane Robidas.
Another rumour circulating is that they just offered Carey Price to the Leafs for Stephane Robidas.
pssst, they're closet Habs fans ... how else can you explain the obsession with a supposed 'rival' team ??
Obsession?? Nah!!!
It's called reporting news. Just like we report news about the Penguins, Leafs, Rangers, Oilers, etc. Were the Flames or Jets or any other team have its own thread, they'd also benefit from our great reporting of any particular team's news.
Personally, i don't hate the habs. They've made me so much money lately that it's impossible to hate that team. And i also want them to make the playoffs. I'll be very disappointed if they don't make the playoffs.
But let's be honest. The habs are also great drama. They're their own soap opera. What other team has its own show and cameras following the team around 24/7?? Gotta love 'em!
Familiar story last night. The habs lost again. 4-3 in overtime. Surprisingly, they managed to score more than 1 goal. But to be honest, they deserved a better fate. They badly outshot St-Louis and should have won the game. Well, all i can say is that they now know how it feels when the shoe is on the other foot. This has been a very familiar story over the past 2-3 seasons when Carey Price was stonewalling every other team which faced the habs.
The habs showed toughness last night and played as a team. Plekanec played his best game in possibly two seasons. Gallagher was Gallagher. The super-pest isn't yet Brad Marchand or Sean Avery, but he isn't far from there. Pacioretty got an invitation to fight and declined. Some applaud this, others say it would have showed character and given his team the extra motivation it required. And Andre Markov made a brutal giveaway in the overtime and that's where the habs lost the game.
However, i'd like to point out that Markov had no business being on the ice in the overtime. Simply put, he's too slow to play 3-on-3. Keep the likes of PK and Beaulieu on the ice for the 3-on-3 and keep Markov on the bench. The habs, it seemed, were playing for the shootout. It was one of the most defensive 3-on-3's i've seen this season. It wound up costing them the game.
The habs are now hanging by a thread to the last wildcard spot, with 5 teams within 4 points of them. Let's be honest, it looks like they won't make the playoffs unless they can figure out a way to slow down that negative momentum. Carey Price isn't close to returning. Firing Michel Therrien now would be a stab-in-the-back from his GM who hasn't done anything of value to help him out. The only way i see them changing things around is to make a big trade. But a big trade means they'll have to part with some of their own top players since other teams don't want anything from the scrap yard if they're to send good players Montreal's way.
Personally, i want the habs to make the playoffs. The habs have to make the playoffs for them to mean anything to me. I doubt i'll watch much playoffs hockey if the habs are not in there. However, were they to miss the playoffs, part of me will cherish the moment just to say "I told you so."
The habs showed toughness last night and played as a team. Plekanec played his best game in possibly two seasons. Gallagher was Gallagher. The super-pest isn't yet Brad Marchand or Sean Avery, but he isn't far from there. Pacioretty got an invitation to fight and declined. Some applaud this, others say it would have showed character and given his team the extra motivation it required. And Andre Markov made a brutal giveaway in the overtime and that's where the habs lost the game.
However, i'd like to point out that Markov had no business being on the ice in the overtime. Simply put, he's too slow to play 3-on-3. Keep the likes of PK and Beaulieu on the ice for the 3-on-3 and keep Markov on the bench. The habs, it seemed, were playing for the shootout. It was one of the most defensive 3-on-3's i've seen this season. It wound up costing them the game.
The habs are now hanging by a thread to the last wildcard spot, with 5 teams within 4 points of them. Let's be honest, it looks like they won't make the playoffs unless they can figure out a way to slow down that negative momentum. Carey Price isn't close to returning. Firing Michel Therrien now would be a stab-in-the-back from his GM who hasn't done anything of value to help him out. The only way i see them changing things around is to make a big trade. But a big trade means they'll have to part with some of their own top players since other teams don't want anything from the scrap yard if they're to send good players Montreal's way.
Personally, i want the habs to make the playoffs. The habs have to make the playoffs for them to mean anything to me. I doubt i'll watch much playoffs hockey if the habs are not in there. However, were they to miss the playoffs, part of me will cherish the moment just to say "I told you so."
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november
Well Doc I agree with you when you say you would like the Habs to make the playoffs, me too. But I am starting to get my doubts. They need to do something or this season will slip away. They're trying to make a deal but there aren't many sellers. No teams have been eliminated from making the playoffs. Then there is salary cap to think about. I still believe they will squeeze in with a good second half.
It's true that there aren't too many sellers. But there are some GMs who find ways to make relevant trades. One example is Nashville and Columbus. The Oilers were also willing to deal RNH to Nashville. It's no secret around the league that nearly every single player on the Leafs team has been available since day 1 since they want to obtain prospects and picks for any veteran on the team.
The problem is that you need two to tango. Bergevin isn't willing to tango. He prefers making only smaller deals. He's too chicken to make the big move and trade players such as Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Pacioretty, PK and Price that other teams are interested in if they're to part with their own 'stars'. The habs' own first-round pick would be able to fetch a high-quality player. But Bergevin refuses to part with it. And let's face it, there's no one left on the farm that would be able to fetch a quality player. Zach Fucale ain't it. He's just a goaltending prospect and nothing more. No one wants Plekanec, Desharnais and Eller. Markov has a no-trade contract and the return wouldn't be much either.
The reason it's difficult to make that big move is because of the contracts the organization gave to the likes of Tomas Plekanec, Andrei Markov and especially PK Subban, among others. The habs don't have much cap space to take over a big contract which a big-name player would likely have. It's nice to have the most flamboyant player in the league to patrol your blue line for a cap-hit of $9 million/year, but it kills your overall team cap. It literally chokes you. That particular player whom you pay that kind of ridiculous money better bring a lot to your team or else you're just throwing money away. Considering that the habs are now one of the worse-scoring teams in the league and that the powerplay is dead, i'd say that the habs are not getting their money's worth in Subban's case. Plekanek would be very hard to trade unless the GM gets creative. Subban would bring a very good return were he to be traded. But there are questions if the owner wouldn't block the move should Bergevin finally chose to trade him.
Want to know what the best thing for the habs would be? To miss the playoffs and overhaul the roster. The current team ain't much. I keep hearing "but if they'd have Price back, etc". However, the 29 other teams in the league don't have Carey Price either and most of them still find ways to win. In other words, all it's telling me is that it's a terrible team and everyone on that team (minus Price) is overpaid and grossly overrated. It tells me that it's not a real professional hockey team. It tells me that any other team in the league would be a contender if Carey Price was its goaltender. Sadly, those are the facts.
The problem is that you need two to tango. Bergevin isn't willing to tango. He prefers making only smaller deals. He's too chicken to make the big move and trade players such as Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Pacioretty, PK and Price that other teams are interested in if they're to part with their own 'stars'. The habs' own first-round pick would be able to fetch a high-quality player. But Bergevin refuses to part with it. And let's face it, there's no one left on the farm that would be able to fetch a quality player. Zach Fucale ain't it. He's just a goaltending prospect and nothing more. No one wants Plekanec, Desharnais and Eller. Markov has a no-trade contract and the return wouldn't be much either.
The reason it's difficult to make that big move is because of the contracts the organization gave to the likes of Tomas Plekanec, Andrei Markov and especially PK Subban, among others. The habs don't have much cap space to take over a big contract which a big-name player would likely have. It's nice to have the most flamboyant player in the league to patrol your blue line for a cap-hit of $9 million/year, but it kills your overall team cap. It literally chokes you. That particular player whom you pay that kind of ridiculous money better bring a lot to your team or else you're just throwing money away. Considering that the habs are now one of the worse-scoring teams in the league and that the powerplay is dead, i'd say that the habs are not getting their money's worth in Subban's case. Plekanek would be very hard to trade unless the GM gets creative. Subban would bring a very good return were he to be traded. But there are questions if the owner wouldn't block the move should Bergevin finally chose to trade him.
Want to know what the best thing for the habs would be? To miss the playoffs and overhaul the roster. The current team ain't much. I keep hearing "but if they'd have Price back, etc". However, the 29 other teams in the league don't have Carey Price either and most of them still find ways to win. In other words, all it's telling me is that it's a terrible team and everyone on that team (minus Price) is overpaid and grossly overrated. It tells me that it's not a real professional hockey team. It tells me that any other team in the league would be a contender if Carey Price was its goaltender. Sadly, those are the facts.
I also don't get the recent moves by the GM. They literally gave away Jarred Tinordi. I keep hearing that no other GM was interested, but i don't buy it. Don't tell me that a team like Toronto wouldn't have wanted to give Tinordi a chance on their blueline and that the habs wouldn't have been interested in any of their veterans, who are all available. Same thing with the Oilers or Buffalo or Columbus or Philly. Or anybody.
Another move i don't get is sending down Carr and Andrighetto and calling up Jake de La Rose, who has no offensive skills whatsoever. Three of their top offensive players since early December were Carr, Andrighetto and Byron. Every game they'd play, they'd give it their all and most of the time would be rewarded. Yet, Bergevin sends two of them down to the farm!! I just don't get it! :noidea:
And finally, one thing i don't get from Therrien is his on-ice player selections. Why is Lars Eller playing on the powerplay? Why??? And what the hell is Andrei Markov doing on the ice in 3-on-3 overtime where speed is the game and it's usually one defenceman and two forwards on the ice? Some teams even go with three forwards!! I don't get it! :noidea:
Another move i don't get is sending down Carr and Andrighetto and calling up Jake de La Rose, who has no offensive skills whatsoever. Three of their top offensive players since early December were Carr, Andrighetto and Byron. Every game they'd play, they'd give it their all and most of the time would be rewarded. Yet, Bergevin sends two of them down to the farm!! I just don't get it! :noidea:
And finally, one thing i don't get from Therrien is his on-ice player selections. Why is Lars Eller playing on the powerplay? Why??? And what the hell is Andrei Markov doing on the ice in 3-on-3 overtime where speed is the game and it's usually one defenceman and two forwards on the ice? Some teams even go with three forwards!! I don't get it! :noidea:
Word around Mtl today is that the habs are making a major pitch to the Tampa Bay Lightning in order to try to obtain Jonathan Drouin. Assistant GM Rick Dudley has been scouting Drouin in the AHL lately.
But in habs terms, what exactly is a major pitch? My excess baggage for a potential superstar? Desharnais, Eller and Beaulieu for Drouin?
If that's a major pitch, then Marc Bergevin will have to return to making his usual 'Marc Bergevin trades', which is a 4th-liner for a 4th-liner or a minor league player for a minor league player.
It should be interesting. Drouin was nearly traded the other day, but talks fell through. I don't know why, but my gut-feeling tells me that Alex Galchenyuk's name has been thrown around. It's not because of the fact his name was in the tabloids lately for getting beaten up by his 'supposed' girlfriend. It's more that the team is somewhat disappointed in his lack of production and progress in his 4th year with the big team, and the fact he no longer fits in their plans as a center and was recently put back on the wing, where personally i feel is his best position since he hogs the puck way too much.
Carey Price's return is still in doubt and my guess is that should the team determine that he won't be back until at least March, then the sooner they pull a big trade, the better......since this team simply can't score enough goals right now.
I don't expect Michel Therrien to get fired unless they lose their next games to Boston and Toronto. One thing that is helping Therrien's case is that he's a french-speaking coach and in Montreal, it's a must that the next coach speaks french fluently. There aren't that many available candidates out there. The name Guy Boucher may be thrown around, but trust me, if you don't like Therrien's brand of defensive hockey, you won't like Boucher's either.
But in habs terms, what exactly is a major pitch? My excess baggage for a potential superstar? Desharnais, Eller and Beaulieu for Drouin?
If that's a major pitch, then Marc Bergevin will have to return to making his usual 'Marc Bergevin trades', which is a 4th-liner for a 4th-liner or a minor league player for a minor league player.
It should be interesting. Drouin was nearly traded the other day, but talks fell through. I don't know why, but my gut-feeling tells me that Alex Galchenyuk's name has been thrown around. It's not because of the fact his name was in the tabloids lately for getting beaten up by his 'supposed' girlfriend. It's more that the team is somewhat disappointed in his lack of production and progress in his 4th year with the big team, and the fact he no longer fits in their plans as a center and was recently put back on the wing, where personally i feel is his best position since he hogs the puck way too much.
Carey Price's return is still in doubt and my guess is that should the team determine that he won't be back until at least March, then the sooner they pull a big trade, the better......since this team simply can't score enough goals right now.
I don't expect Michel Therrien to get fired unless they lose their next games to Boston and Toronto. One thing that is helping Therrien's case is that he's a french-speaking coach and in Montreal, it's a must that the next coach speaks french fluently. There aren't that many available candidates out there. The name Guy Boucher may be thrown around, but trust me, if you don't like Therrien's brand of defensive hockey, you won't like Boucher's either.
Tony Marinaro is mad as hell and he is not going to take it any more!!!!!
http://www.tsn.ca/radio/montreal-690/marinaro-i-m-not-going-to-take-it-anymore-1.424693
http://www.tsn.ca/radio/montreal-690/marinaro-i-m-not-going-to-take-it-anymore-1.424693
Thanks for posting. I heard tonight that his morning rant was classic, yet i didn't have the opportunity to listen to it. J-C Lajoie's rant against PK Subban last week on 91.9 Sport was also a classic. I thought he was going to have a stroke! :lol:
Today on RDS they showed the standings if the season started on December 1st and the habs were dead-last in the entire NHL. Needless to say, it's full panic mode around Montreal these days! I'm sure the drug stores must be making a fortune selling tranquilizers to Montrealers these days! Liquor sales have gone up over the past two months! :lol:
My favorite part of the Marinaro rant was when he said "don't dare put the puck in the net!..............." When was the last first line center the Habs had?
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