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Sanchez Rampage Continues

Gary Sanchez now has 19 homers and 38 RBIs in 165 at bats since being called up August 2, to go with a .333 batting average. Iggy had raised the possibility of Sanchez pulling votes for Rookie of the Year if he gets to 20 homers and it looks like this wll happen. Fulmer will probably win the award if he leads the AL in ERA, however Sanchez would have won this award if he had played a full year. He has not been stopped. He is simply a great hitter.
 

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Comparison of Sanchez's 2016 season to Willie McCovey's Rookie of the Year season in 1959:

McCovey: 13 homers, 38 RBIs, .354 batting average in 194 at bats

Sanchez: 19 homers, 38 RBIs, .337 batting average in 166 at bats.

Sanchez OPS is about 100 points higher than McCovey's was. I am now starting to believe Iggy was on target with his post that Sanchez could snatch the AL Rookie of the Year if this continues.
 

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Bonjour a tous Having the vacation of a lifetime. Hope you are enjoying baseball this year as much as I am. Sorry Yanks fans. Do go on about Sanchez. :) Oooooooops, someone said "voulez vous........" Bonsoir mes enfants.
 

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Jays beat the Yankees 3-0

Jays shut-out the Yankees again!!!!!! Two in a row now!!!! The Yankees have been shut-out for three consecutive games, the first time it has happened in 1975 !!!!!!!! That's 41 years!!!!! :thumb:
 

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The Yankees have been shut-out for three consecutive games, the first time it has happened in 1975 !!!!!!!! That's 41 years!!!!! :thumb:
Can't be. Not with Ruth-Mantle-Jeter rolled in one Sanchez on the Yankees. Meanwhile: What a JUGGERNAUT the RED SOX have been destroying all comers for 11 STRAIGHT. The whole lineup is on fire. Hell, we've got nine Sanchez. The Red Sox lead the league in team BA .281. RBIs 820, OBP .351, SLG .467. Hitting was never in question but now the pitching has almost matched up. The whole team is deadly. cheers The Yanks are 12.5 back with Sanchez. Gee I go away for 10 days or so and their bottom falls out. What happened?
 

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Make it three in a row for the Jays over the Yankees!!! :thumb:

I have to confess: Gary Sanchez has not impressed me so far. I dunno, maybe he hit all his homeruns against a bunch of bums and now he's finally facing quality pitching?? Anyways, i hope the Yankees fans don't get their hopes too high with this guy or else they'll be very disappointed.

One more thing: hasn't Brian McCann been a huge free agent bust so far?

The Yankees are no longer the Bronx Bombers, but going 33 straight innings without scoring a single run is embarrassing, not??

Lots of rebuilding to do with that team. I also have no faith in Bettances as the closer. Way too wild and he looks scared out there.

That's it for now....Go Jays!! One more to go for the 4-game sweep!!
 

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It's crunch time for the AL East and the Yankees have shown that despite all the idol worship of ONE player they can't compete with the better teams at all. The last two weeks has been a total collapse for them since playing a bad Tampa team against which they grossly inflated their apparent chances of doing anything this year. Simply, they are not a good team, especially after the foolish giving away of their top relievers. They looked good for a number of weeks, but when the real test came up they plummeted mightily like a rock unable to stop it's crashing momentum losing 11 of their last 14 games.

And this Sanchez, 2 for 14 with 2 BBs in the last four games.

I was shocked to learn while on vacation the Red Sox had won 8 games in a row at the time. They had lead the league in production but pitching was very inconsistent. With Wright out chances looked worse. Then E-Rod got strong, Benintendi came back, Pedroia and Ramirez ramped it up, Uehara returned, Ortiz is going above his own head, JBJ broke his slump, Kelly came on tough, Pomeranz steadied, Buchholz became good enough to hold 5 to 6 innings, and Price dumped that awful bargain basement clone that pretended to be Price.

I'm still rooting for the Cubs because I don't think the Sox are World Series winners yet, but that's what we thought in 2013. Last to Champs........again?????????????.
 
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Simply, they are not a good team, especially after the foolish giving away of their top relievers. They looked good for a number of weeks, but when the real test came up they plummeted mightily like a rock unable to stop it's crashing momentum losing 11 of their last 14 games.

And this Sanchez, 2 for 14 with 2 BBs in the last four games.

I agree. They are not a very good baseball team. I did understand the Chapman trade to the Cubs, but once that happened i figured Andrew Miller would be staying and there was no reason to trade him since he'd still be a Yankee in the future. And at the time of the trade, the Yankees still had a very legitimate shot at one of the wild cards. But unless they saw something in Delin Bettances which made them believe he was a legit closer who could take over either Miller or Chapman's role, it seems like Brian Cashman simply gave up on the team.

Look, Bettances did very well as a setup man. But to me it was clear he didn't have what it takes to be a bonafide closer. Yesterday, he was yanked in favor of Tyler Clippard. And i'm not lying when i say that i stand up and clap every time i see him coming out of the bullpen whenever they play the Jays. Look, he sucks!!!

And i've still yet to see what all the fuss is about in regards to Gary Sanchez. I'm actually more impressed with his arm than i am with his bat!!! Sure, he hit a lot of homeruns since being called up. But many of those were against marginal pitchers who didn't know how to pitch to him. As you saw in every single game they Yankees played against the Jays after his call-up, he's a AA player hitting against quality and smart pitching.

Another problem with the Yankees is that they currently have too many position players with big contracts. Brian McCann is now their third catcher after Sanchez and Romine. Sure, he could DH. But he hits like crap and that's not why they signed him in the first place. Along with the likes of Chase Hedley and Jacoby Ellsbury, he's been a total free-agent bust! And look, i like Sterling Castro, but i'm sure they have other and cheaper players in the organization which can do the same thing he does. On another note, i do like what DD Gregorius brings to the team. He's quite an improvement over the late Derek Jeter.

Next year, they have to figure out what to do with all those excess position players. Mark Texeira will be gone next season. I'm not crazy about their outfield. Who will play first base? Will they go after free agent Aroldis Chapman and overpay him?? They likely could have re-signed him for much less. Look, they SHOULD go after Chapman. Bettances simply cannot do the job. And the starting pitchers aren't getting any younger. CC Sabathia is 6'6 and over 300 lbs. Will he be alive next season?? Tanaka needs to have Tommy John one of these days. Pineida has been a huge disappointment from day one. Any promising starter on the farm? I don't think so.

What they'll need to do during the offseason is figure out a way to trade or sign a quality starting pitcher. Maybe McCann can be used as bait, if anyone wants to touch that contract for a declining catcher. They also MUST sign Aroldis Chapman, but other teams such as the Cubs won't hesitate to get into a bidding war with the Yankees in order to re-sign him.

It should be an interesting offseason AGAIN in the Bronx!
 

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Look, Bettances did very well as a setup man. But to me it was clear he didn't have what it takes to be a bonafide closer. Yesterday, he was yanked in favor of Tyler Clippard. And i'm not lying when i say that i stand up and clap every time i see him coming out of the bullpen whenever they play the Jays. Look, he sucks!!!

And i've still yet to see what all the fuss is about in regards to Gary Sanchez. I'm actually more impressed with his arm than i am with his bat!!! Sure, he hit a lot of homeruns since being called up. But many of those were against marginal pitchers who didn't know how to pitch to him. As you saw in every single game they Yankees played against the Jays after his call-up, he's a AA player hitting against quality and smart pitching.

Your post sounds like a very informed analysis. I can't say I know as much, but what you say fits well. It does seem Bettances is in a roll he's not suited to. As for Sanchez, all I can say is I'm not willing to underestimate him. Pitchers can learn to attack his weaknesses but he can also learn to turn that around on pitchers. So far the evidence is he will be something special. The extremely over-optimistic views that have been posted may be the result of needing anything to admire. The sample is far too short to go either way yet. Hell, Boston's Sandy Leon was hitting over .500 for 40 games or so.

I heard today there's a plot in motion to get 50,000 Yankees fans to moon Ortiz. That would be hilarious. In one way I'd love it. It would speak volumes about all he's done to the Yankees over the years. #2004: OrtizBeatsMarianoTwiceGreatestComebackEver#. In a second way I'd love it too. The real face of Yankee Pride shows: #clASS. Ortiz said on WEEI today it would be amazing.

I met a guy on vacation originally from Chicago now living in Los Angeles. Could it be Theo will be the mastermind of bringing two teams who struggled so long to World Series Championships??? We toasted to it.

Cheers

#GoCubs #GoRedSox.
 

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What I don't understand is what is the difference between the 8th and 9th inning or any other inning for that matter. I hate the save stat and I think it is the most useless and lying stat in all of baseball. I also question pitch counts and I would prefer to see Fox Tracks call strikes and balls rather than an umpire...to think that a catcher can manipulate the strike zone is ludicrous. A strike is a strike and a ball is a ball. There is tradition to consider and I am not sure what the solution is but I would prefer the umpires re-purposed. Cleaning toilets and sweeping up trash after the game would be a better use of their skills. But getting back to the closer role I would like you to consider the following: If a middle reliever or a set-up man were inserted in a game with a 3-0 lead and allowed 2 runs and loaded the bases before getting the last out by forcing the 9th hitter to hit a laser to the deepest part of the park and the center-fielder scales the wall to catch the ball....would you call that a good job? Then why is it a save in the 9th inning? To me the 5th inning is the critical inning in every game. It is the inning that can make or break a team. We ought to use this inning to give the starter a rest so he can pitch the last four. We can call the reliever who gives this starter a break a "middler" and he would get a "rest" if he can pitch the inning and not give up more than two runs if the ambient temperature is below 90F and he can give up to 3 runs if the temperature is above 90. The color commentator can marvel at all the successful "rests" that the middler has had all year and they can talk about the experience and savvy required of a good "middler" because the 5th inning is the toughest inning to get through.
 

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What's happening to the Tigers?

We need a closer!!!! LOL.


Last weekend we were up against KC 4-2 in the 9th and had 2 out on KC and managed to blow it. They are 1 game out of a wildcard spot but I don't think we have the pitching. Verlander has had a great year. He just struck out 10 and pitched 8 innings of shutout ball but we lost his entourage of Porcello, Fister, and Sherzer and Sanchez is there only in name. His game has fell off a cliff. Unfortunately, the bullpen is still the bullpen of old. Green was lights out as a set-up man all year and now he forgot how to pitch. K Rod is a crafty veteran but he throws an 89 MPH fastball. I like Rondon and Wilson's but they are certainly not lights out.

We signed Mark Lowe from Toronto for the 8th inning and he has been a disaster. We signed Pelfry from the Twins and Zimmerman from the Nats and both have been injured and tried to come back and could not get out of the first or 2nd inning. So all three big free agent off season signing pitchers have been disasters. One turn around is Upton. J-Up as they call him has been on a home run tear and the Tiger's announcers say that he has had more RBI's than anyone else in baseball since August. They have a lot of good hitters but Victor Martinez is starting to look old. He runs the bases like a beer league softball player. Miggie has looked a little more mortal this year but we are spoiled here. We are used to Miggie hitting .350 with power. But it is about pitching...and the vaunted Tigers starters - with the exception of Verlander - are no more. We have a few good young arms. Fulmer - the NY Met's top prospect that they traded to us for the Cespedes rental - could win rookie of the year as a RHP starter. The two Blue Jays prospects we got for Price look like they have a future in this game. Norris looks real good and Boyd has been up and down but I am encouraged.

We are 1 out of the last wild card spot so I have my fingers crossed.
 

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Wow!! I just stepped out for a couple of minutes to cook some hotdogs outside on the fire, i come back inside and the Yankees won the game???? No abbreviations required here....WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED???? :noidea::noidea::noidea:
 

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These past couple of days i've also been a Yankees fan and i was very happy after they won last night. I hope they end their season with a win today. On another note, congratulations to the Mets for winning the wildcard although they've battled injuries all season long. Terry Collins deserves to be named NL manager-of-the-year.
 

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Jays win!

The Jays beat the Red Sox for the second day in a row and it means they'll face the Orioles on tuesday at the Rogers Centre in a one-game playoff.

Detroit lost 1-0 in their first game against the Braves, which literally eliminated them from the playoffs. Losing two consecutive games against the lowly Atlanta Braves must have hurt.
 

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I love the pressure of the Wild Card one and done games! No pitchers have been announced for Orioles-Jays but the Giants will send their ace Madison Bumgarner against the NY Mets who will counter with Noah Syndegaard.

If the Jays beat the Orioles they will get the Texas Rangers, a team with whom they share frosty tensions, anyone remember this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssmuAWiL5RM
 

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Jays win!

The Jays beat the Red Sox for the second day in a row and it means they'll face the Orioles on tuesday at the Rogers Centre in a one-game playoff.

Detroit lost 1-0 in their first game against the Braves, which literally eliminated them from the playoffs. Losing two consecutive games against the lowly Atlanta Braves must have hurt.

It sure hurt me but we have way too many holes. It was a very good year for rookie pitchers Micheal Fulmer that was 3 innings shy of the ERA championship for the AL and veteran Justin Verlander who was the Ks leader for the AL. Miggie was Miggie but I remember him striking out quite a bit this year. VMart still has a sweet swing but his knees are starting to catch up with him. Nick Castallanos had a break out season offensively until a broken hand ended most of the season. JD Martinez had another silver slugger caliber season that was preempted by a fractured shoulder. Iglesias had the best fielding of a Tiger SS in the history of the organization at that position. Maybin was the spark plug and Justin Upton was the best power hitter in baseball the since mid August with 18 home runs and Kinsler was Kinsler.

But the pen was spotty and the 3 of the 4 major free agent acquisitions at the pitching position - Lowe and Pelfry, were useless all year and Zimmerman, after being named pitcher of the month, was useless down the stretch.
 

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I just checked Stub Hub and the cheapest seats for tomorrow night's Jays-Orioles game is $136 and they are way up there

For Mets-Giants cheapest is about the same. Per Stubhub
 

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2 things needed to happen for Michael Fulmer to wrap up AL Rookie of The Year and neither one happened. Although Fulmer led the American League in ERA for much of the year, in the end he failed to qualify and Aaron Sanchez won the title with a 3.00 ERA, edging out Justin Verlander at 3.04 and Matsuhiroo Tanaka at 3.07. Tanaka had been leading before he missed his last several starts due to injury, so Sanchez and Verlander put up good starts to pass Tanaka.

The other thing that didn't happen is the Tigers didn't make the playoffs. So ROY is a 2 horse race between Fulmer and Gary Sanchez of the Yankees.

It looks like Rick Porcello will win AL Cy Young with 22-4 and top 5 in ERA. Verlander was in this but Tigers didn't make playoffs so he suffers the pain of the victors getting the spoils.

AL MVP would have gone to Miguel Cabrera, but he too suffers the pain of the victor getting the spoils. I believe Mookie Betts will win this award.

In the NL I like Daniel Murphy for MVP, Jon Lester for Cy Young and Corey Seager gets an easy win as ROY.
 
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