See this is another stereotype and even one that brown men have been labelled by. In fact many men with racial prejudices would tell me how Black women smell bad. I danced so many Black strippers and had many take outs with Black strippers... Some strippers had an odor problem but most were very clean their Y had no odor many in fact smelt good... The Black strippers I had take out with their Y and buttcrack was so clean they smelt like febreeze. Me I am a brown man and I always make sure I smell good... Very often the girls tell me I smell good... Strippers I dance with sometimes tell me how I always smell good. Like I said this is all covert racism.
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See this is another stereotype and even one that brown men have been labelled by. In fact many men with racial prejudices would tell me how Black women smell bad. I danced so many Black strippers and had many take outs with Black strippers... Some strippers had an odor problem but most were very clean their Y had no odor many in fact smelt good... The Black strippers I had take out with their Y and buttcrack was so clean they smelt like febreeze. Me I am a brown man and I always make sure I smell good... Very often the girls tell me I smell good... Strippers I dance with sometimes tell me how I always smell good. Like I said this is all covert racism.
There is but the majority of it is in the form of covert racism and there is a lot of it here in Montreal in the sex business. In short covert racism is a form of racial discrimination that is disguised and subtle, rather than public or obvious. Concealed in the fabric of society, covert racism discriminates against individuals through often unnoticeable or seemingly passive methods. Covert, racially biased decisions are often hidden or rationalized with an explanation that society is more willing to accept. These racial biases cause a variety of problems that work to empower the suppressors while diminishing the rights and powers of the oppressed. Covert racism often works subliminally, and often much of the discrimination is being done subconsciously. We see this in so many escorts with a no Black man policy and many Montreal area stripclubs with a strict Black girl quota maximum four Black girls out of a potential 50 girls. Some clubs do not even take Black girls I know Les Deesses has been this type of club since the beginning till it went downhill. They never booked any Black girl.
End of story. Let the bookers now. Have a sense of humor about it. There are plenty of SPs that don't care about your race. Patronize them. It's unfortunate that you are sized up as a client based on your color, whatever the reason may be. But there are plenty of women that don't care. And when you do see them, be courteous and tip if you can. Of course, being courteous is a no-duh for everyone seeing an SP, but it's important for you. Why? The fact that other SPs have refused black men entirely due to a bad experience with one or two people means you are a defacto spokesman for your entire race. It's logically difficult to argue otherwise even though no such burden is placed on white clients. Godspeed.
I agree completely with you Cloud 500.
A few days ago, I went to see one of my vendors. The person who assisted me was a blond lady in her early 30's; thin and about 5'9". While she looked professional and carried herself well, her hair smelled so bad that I almost threw up. We rode up in the same elevator and were in her tiny office and she had to move around me to demonstrate her company's products. I figured she didn't wash her hair before she went to work that day.
I have been around many professional women (i.e., other lawyers) who were smartly dressed but they smelled bad -- so much so that I had to hold my breath when they got too close to me; probably that time of the month when Nature wreck havoc on women's hormones.
I have found that non-white colleagues and professionals often dress more smartly and smell a lot better (wearing very expensive but subtle cologne).
Cloud your experience is different than mine in SC, i would see it as assumption and opinions. But you clearly obsesse over this "cover racist" thing wich is not even a thing to be honest. Im kinda tired of trying to explain it to you so ill stop there on this matter. The sex industry is simply different than any other industry and must be threated as such.
About odor, i heard that one a few times that black peoples smell bad etc. I took a few dances with black girls in the past and its true some had a different odor. I wouldn't say they smelled bad, but they had an odor that was different from white dancers i would see, very pronounced. Now it could be anything , own body odor, a perfum they use, i dunno. Not all of them wich i saw had that odor either. There some white dancers i seen in the past who use so much perfum i litterally had to take a shower and change cloathes coming home as my mother would say "tu sens la guidoune". So i know parfum play a big part in SC. SP tough rarely smell perforum too much, probably cause they shower between clients so it would be worthless.
But like a year ago at the nightwish show me and my friend met a girl (white) in the wait line, she was rather cute, french from france (accent) but man did she reek...
Like a lot... Not to say we made sure to go elsewhere than her once inside. Obviously if you don't shower or put "deo" on, obviously you will smell, no matter the color.
About odor, i heard that one a few times that black peoples smell bad etc. I took a few dances with black girls in the past and its true some had a different odor. I wouldn't say they smelled bad, but they had an odor that was different from white dancers i would see, very pronounced. Now it could be anything , own body odor, a perfum they use, i dunno. Not all of them wich i saw had that odor either. There some white dancers i seen in the past who use so much perfum i litterally had to take a shower and change cloathes coming home as my mother would say "tu sens la guidoune". So i know parfum play a big part in SC. SP tough rarely smell perforum too much, probably cause they shower between clients so it would be worthless.
But like a year ago at the nightwish show me and my friend met a girl (white) in the wait line, she was rather cute, french from france (accent) but man did she reek...
Like a lot... Not to say we made sure to go elsewhere than her once inside. Obviously if you don't shower or put "deo" on, obviously you will smell, no matter the color.
Cloud your experience is different than mine in SC, i would see it as assumption and opinions. But you clearly obsesse over this "cover racist" thing wich is not even a thing to be honest. Im kinda tired of trying to explain it to you so ill stop there on this matter. The sex industry is simply different than any other industry and must be threated as
But like a year ago at the nightwish show me and my friend met a girl (white) in the wait line, she was rather cute, french from france (accent) but man did she reek...
With the covert racist, HM jas a point as I am not a rasist but have no desire to see a black stripper or escort ( Haley Berry is excluded ), nothing to do with color just not a fan of the bibble butt or facial features, this makes no one a racist, just personal taste. I prefer someone with a body like K.I.M. had in her prime and a face like Sandra Bullock, not for everyone but it is for me.
With the odor thing, it all depends on what you eat, certain foods will give off a stronger body odor. I know people that shower every day and do not use a deodorant and no smell at all.
And yes, bigotry is strong in Quebec and not just towards blacks, all colors and even white if you are not a Quebecer. But who cares, carry on and continue your day because the next person probably will not care, you can not make people like you if they are sey in their ways, life is too short to be concerned with people who do not like the way you are or think.
I prefer white women but I love black women especially Mulattoes. When I go to Brazil I make sure I see a few mulattoes...you know, the Gabriel Garnier type? Love that girl. There is one in Florida that I saw twice (thanks to Patron) and I would see her again. There are a few black SPs in Atlanta that remind me of the Real Housewives of Atlanta. I love that type all made up with hair extensions and sexy nails and lingerie...but you can't get near them. I mean there was one I wanted to see but she was 800$/hour! They are always outside of my budget. I am not interested in a street girl that talks ghetto but I am attracted to educated refined black women in the USA. However, in Montreal I seem to be interested in the typical Quebecois, la petite French Canadian with black hair...I like girls that are a mixture of French and American Indian blood. I like the petite girls. I have run into mixes of French Canadian girls with Moroccan ancestry....I love those too. I haven't met black girls in Montreal that I just had to have. I am mostly not looking for these types of black women. Bring me out a Haley Berrey, Beyonce, Gabrielle Union, Paula Patton, Meagon Good, Stacey Dash, Rhianna and I will change my mind.
When I was at the FKK a few years ago, a light-skinned white guy (an US Army Sergeant) was there with his Army buddies and he wanted the blackest girl that had there. He liked the contrast with his skin and watching the sex in the mirror. I know a black professional athlete that avoids black women because he said they are impossible to have a relationship with. Too demanding and ready to hit you over the head with a frying pan. He liked white women because they are more passive.
To each his own. Racism has nothing to do with it. It is about who you are attracted too. There are leftist women in Hollywood that I detest that I would put my differences aside to have sex with. I love Korean Dolls. I'm sure that Kim Jung has an entourage that I would love to fuck even though we are always on a war footing with them.
When I was at the FKK a few years ago, a light-skinned white guy (an US Army Sergeant) was there with his Army buddies and he wanted the blackest girl that had there. He liked the contrast with his skin and watching the sex in the mirror. I know a black professional athlete that avoids black women because he said they are impossible to have a relationship with. Too demanding and ready to hit you over the head with a frying pan. He liked white women because they are more passive.
To each his own. Racism has nothing to do with it. It is about who you are attracted too. There are leftist women in Hollywood that I detest that I would put my differences aside to have sex with. I love Korean Dolls. I'm sure that Kim Jung has an entourage that I would love to fuck even though we are always on a war footing with them.
You guys are not describing covert racism. Covert racism is like what stripclubs do they got a strict quota on Black girls... Each person has their taste but targeting women of color to limit it to three or none out of 50 girls qualifies as discrimination. It is not reflective of the actual racial mix in Montreal. There are enough men who like women of color in fact most men are open to most colors. Each person like what they like but this is not the topic here. I myself am much more attracted to women of color... I love the dark skin, the big ass, the big lips (makes for so much better DFK.) The white pale skin and thin lips just never attracted me. It is interesting to note about many White women are trying to attain Black features like getting lip implants, butt implants, getting tanned. A Black model was scrutinized for her lips yet a White woman with lip implants is praised. But again this is not the topic of discussion here. Racism is so let us stay on topic folks.
Cloud sorry it's not covert racism, it's being in business!
Just like major montreal agency will have only 1 or 2 black girl at the most and only 1 or 2 late 20's girl. No discrimination here. They are doing thing because that's what the demand is for.
Cheers,
Just like major montreal agency will have only 1 or 2 black girl at the most and only 1 or 2 late 20's girl. No discrimination here. They are doing thing because that's what the demand is for.
Cheers,
Cloud500 sometimes you make me laugh. You can find racism anywhere.:smile: Please tell me, since when has anyone been interested in thin lips or hair lips? Many white women naturally have full pouty lips and I like that.
I know for fact that black women contact the plastic surgeon for butt implants. What white women want black women want and vice versa. Look at all the black women with hair weaves...and I dig it. I don't want some black gal with a big old fuzzy Afro. Women are always trying to be beautiful. I like it.
I know for fact that black women contact the plastic surgeon for butt implants. What white women want black women want and vice versa. Look at all the black women with hair weaves...and I dig it. I don't want some black gal with a big old fuzzy Afro. Women are always trying to be beautiful. I like it.
Are you sure about that? 10/35, La Broussaile, Cabaret JR would shut down if that were true. And if it was to do with business why no quotas on natural tits, tall girls, short girls, spinners?? I tell you the real reason I never seen a club owner choose girls based on business it has always been about their own personal taste. Champions is the classic example. This club always has lots of Black girls and the clients who go there went for the Blacks... Then David the doorman from Sexe D'Or moved in there and he dislikes Blacks so limited their amounts to max three but there were lots of below average out of shape Whites. The clients stopped coming many were complaining. Even though the clients there liked the Blacks David was oblivious to that. I posted about Oh Caress in one of my posts. I showed you proof show me your proof.
Do you even know what covert racism is... Covert racism is a form of racial discrimination that is disguised and subtle, rather than public or obvious. Concealed in the fabric of society, covert racism discriminates against individuals through often unnoticeable or seemingly passive methods. Covert, racially biased decisions are often hidden or rationalized with an explanation that society is more willing to accept. These racial biases cause a variety of problems that work to empower the suppressors while diminishing the rights and powers of the oppressed. Covert racism often works subliminally, and often much of the discrimination is being done subconsciously. You just rationalized this discrimination. Discriminating against people of color is so normal especially in the sex business. This described covert racism.
But as Sol Tee Nutz life is too short to dwell on these things people will always have prejudices best to move onto the next one as I avoid stripclubs with mostly White girls.
Cheers
Could it be positive? Like me I hate Asian american because they all have such good sense of humor it makes me sick! haha Shit I am a racist!
Cheers,
No. I have not set foot in a SC in 20 years. But in that 20 years I founded and started and still run businesses. And I just put myself in the shoe of an SC owner and this is exactly what I would do. I would try to have a line up of girls that represent what my clientele wants to see. I am personally a big fan of black girl. But I would not have an all black line up. Would not have a complete white either. Would try to have a few latina and a few asian which I adore (but do asian work in SC??).
I do. But it's too complicated for me. I like to keep things simple and give a chance and welcome everyone. Do not care if they are black, white, yellow, brown, redhead... And especially if it's to suck my dick!
Cheers,
Yes and I would do the same as you. I would keep all types of girls... White, Latinas, Asians, Blacks to suit all clients likes... I myself got zero attraction to chubby girls but I would have those also as there are men who like big girls. But never would I artificially control the racial mix to ensure it was 98% White or even 98% Black. I just do not believe in that. Let the clients decide what they like... If those girls do not make money they will leave on their own. Girls go where the money is. Let the market decide would be my moto. In the sex business this is the only place where I believe in a free market and the same goes for the booths... No rules let the girls decide what she is willing to give. If she wants to be straight then it is her right if she wants to give more that is her right also.
Racism is supose to be about putting peoples in category by skin color right? Then tell me why "Interracial Porn" is such a big thing. Why some websites krave on the concept of Black Dudes fucking white women. Like its "something more" , like its "the next step" for the actress like doing Anal or something. A dick is a dick and a guy is a guy no? Why some movies are marketed as "asian movies" for instance with an all asian cast.
The answer is simple. Because its good for business and categorizing peoples in colors/races IS and will ALWAYS BE a thing in the sex industry. Thus why i am saying racism do not really apply to that business unlike its obvious and direct. A case would be a producer using racial slur toward a performer for instance.
But all the rest, like choosing white girls over black or asian girls, or paying a certain white girls more over certain black girls is NOT racism. Because its a business over look and sex appeal. Its the same as this young 20 years old bomshell will do more than the 40 years old mature lady.
I am even sure its actually working the other way around, sure some guys like Lex Steel or Mandingo are paid more than your average white actor because black dudes with huge shlong fucking white girls is a huge thing.
So that is for the porn business.
But it also apply to the escort world/and or SC. Simple as that. I said it a few times so i hope you get it.
There some porn actress who, just like some SPs, refuse to shoot with black guys because there not physically attracted to them. They do not have anything against people of colors ahd have plenty of friends of colors in there personal life, but when it comes to sex they don't want to do it, just like they can choose to work with only 7-8 dudes specifically. And trust me for having been on internet forums about porn these actress are also being called racist by some peoples for that personal decision, and it shouldn't be the case.
Other actresses purposely avoid black guys for a while in there career only because when they will shoot there first interracial scene, it will be a "big thing" and draw audience. Thus making it a business decision. Again humans are humansl and in the best of any worlds colors shouldn't matter at all. I wouldn't care less what color the guy i hire to do my grass is, as long as the job is done properly. But in the sex business, THIS DOES NOT APPLY. Cause there is factors making the color of the person relevant.
The answer is simple. Because its good for business and categorizing peoples in colors/races IS and will ALWAYS BE a thing in the sex industry. Thus why i am saying racism do not really apply to that business unlike its obvious and direct. A case would be a producer using racial slur toward a performer for instance.
But all the rest, like choosing white girls over black or asian girls, or paying a certain white girls more over certain black girls is NOT racism. Because its a business over look and sex appeal. Its the same as this young 20 years old bomshell will do more than the 40 years old mature lady.
I am even sure its actually working the other way around, sure some guys like Lex Steel or Mandingo are paid more than your average white actor because black dudes with huge shlong fucking white girls is a huge thing.
So that is for the porn business.
But it also apply to the escort world/and or SC. Simple as that. I said it a few times so i hope you get it.
There some porn actress who, just like some SPs, refuse to shoot with black guys because there not physically attracted to them. They do not have anything against people of colors ahd have plenty of friends of colors in there personal life, but when it comes to sex they don't want to do it, just like they can choose to work with only 7-8 dudes specifically. And trust me for having been on internet forums about porn these actress are also being called racist by some peoples for that personal decision, and it shouldn't be the case.
Other actresses purposely avoid black guys for a while in there career only because when they will shoot there first interracial scene, it will be a "big thing" and draw audience. Thus making it a business decision. Again humans are humansl and in the best of any worlds colors shouldn't matter at all. I wouldn't care less what color the guy i hire to do my grass is, as long as the job is done properly. But in the sex business, THIS DOES NOT APPLY. Cause there is factors making the color of the person relevant.
Informative thread. As a black male in the hobby for almost twenty years, I've had one experience where I was refused at the door and another where I was refused on the phone after I identified myself as a black male (this was shortly after being refused at the door by an SP). Other then that, I've never had a problem. I've encountered some suspicious looks from a white SP, but after our encounter things were much better--that and I paid the fee (cash money is a great equalizer). The OP hasn't said anything else since making their post, and there could be many reasons for it.
Since I quit the hobby in the states five years ago, Canada has been my only frame of reference. The SPs I've met have been polite and professional. And as another poster alluded to, problems can occur when one tries being a "bargain hunter" which was the case in the two instances where I had problems. As far as those SPs posting "no black men," there are other providers out there.
Life is too short to worry about being denied by an SP because of race or ethnicity . There are many others out there that are happy to see me AND my money. I will happily see them.
Since I quit the hobby in the states five years ago, Canada has been my only frame of reference. The SPs I've met have been polite and professional. And as another poster alluded to, problems can occur when one tries being a "bargain hunter" which was the case in the two instances where I had problems. As far as those SPs posting "no black men," there are other providers out there.
Life is too short to worry about being denied by an SP because of race or ethnicity . There are many others out there that are happy to see me AND my money. I will happily see them.
Am I the only one who feels that way?
Here is my situation:
I'm a black guy who is not tall, not athletic, doesn't have that thing that girls find attractive in black males. Unfortunately, I have a thing for asians who are mostly not into black guys. I dont have much options when it comes to escorts since they are mostly no seeing black guys (most of the hot ones). Can't enjoy a trip to Asia too because well they see dark skin as poor and dirty. Asian agencies are not fund of blacks too. So I am left with all the negative aspects of being black and none of the positives.
A friend of mine claims i should give up on anything European, Asian and focus more on latina from central america, black girls and some quebecoises. Every time i see a black girl of my taste she's only into white guys LOL
So yeah it annoys me and when it comes to escort i am usually left with 2nd or 3rd options.
Here is my situation:
I'm a black guy who is not tall, not athletic, doesn't have that thing that girls find attractive in black males. Unfortunately, I have a thing for asians who are mostly not into black guys. I dont have much options when it comes to escorts since they are mostly no seeing black guys (most of the hot ones). Can't enjoy a trip to Asia too because well they see dark skin as poor and dirty. Asian agencies are not fund of blacks too. So I am left with all the negative aspects of being black and none of the positives.
A friend of mine claims i should give up on anything European, Asian and focus more on latina from central america, black girls and some quebecoises. Every time i see a black girl of my taste she's only into white guys LOL
So yeah it annoys me and when it comes to escort i am usually left with 2nd or 3rd options.
I feel for you, brotha... I can't fully empathize with the black thing and Asian preference since I have neither, however, I do understand not tall, not athletic, etc. I grew up the shortest and scrawniest of my friends and did get picked on a lot because of my size. You can't change your height (I keep trying, but fail lol), but you can change your physique. It's certainly easier for some than others... I was a hardgainer for most of my life, yet now I have to work hard at keeping my girlish figure It will take diet, training, and discipline, however, you will be amazed at what you can do if you put your mind to it. Not to toot my own horn, but I now look better than all of my taller and formerly more athletic friends. And believe me... if I can do it, so can you.
You can't change the not tall/black thing, but you can change your physique in away that will make you much more attractive to the opposite sex. And the confidence that comes with it will give you more game than you realize. I disagree with your friend... you shouldn't give up on what you really want. Just tip the scale in your favor and improve your odds... :thumb:
It will take diet, training, and discipline, however, you will be amazed at what you can do if you put your mind to it. Not to toot my own horn, but I now look better than all of my taller and formerly more athletic friends. And believe me... if I can do it, so can you.You can't change the not tall/black thing, but you can change your physique in away that will make you much more attractive to the opposite sex. And the confidence that comes with it will give you more game than you realize. I disagree with your friend... you shouldn't give up on what you really want. Just tip the scale in your favor and improve your odds... :thumb:
Same here. I stopped growing at the age of 14. I am the size of a 14 yr old boy. Looool But I agree as a man to be short is the worst thing. No retailers even sell clothes for men under 5'10" and the women openly hate and small short men. Putting on muscles does help but it never compensates for a lack of height. Height is a man's manhood. Tall skinny men get girls way more easily then a short muscle dude. I am not Black I am Brown so it is worse for me. Lol I also have never been athletic I hate sports they bore me to death. I tried joining a gym many times only to stop going and stuck with a gym membership. I found weight lifting so BORING. I rather spend my time in front of my PC and play video games. Now that is fun.
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