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We all fear rejection. Best we can do is show people who we are, and hope a relationship can form. Like someone else said, we miss 100% of the shots we don't take.
Hope you don't wait too long before you miss your chance. Co-workers are kind of a dangerous place to search for a relationship though. If it works, your around eachother 24hrs a day 7 days a week, if it doesn't, where you spend most of your waking hours, is made uncomfortable, for either one, or both.


I side on I want people to have happy healthy mutual relationships. Unfortunately that doesn't seem to be how a lot of relationships work out though.
For OP, I hope he also learns rejection isn't the end of the world. It is hard, and depending on how sensitive someone is can hurt, but we also hope when it is right, it shouldn't be so difficult. Even for an attractive person, the best thing you can do is see them as a person rather then put them on a pedestal because you think them out of reach. It is rather uncomfortable to be in a relationship where there is that kind of imbalance.
Co workers are very dangerous in deed, she has a boyfriend now and even if she gave me all the signs she was also looking elsewhere, but its all good as you say dating a co worker is dangerous, if things go wrong. I feel that the post I created staying single for life applies to a lot of us older people when you reach 40 its harder to find someone with baggage and also if they have kids you have kids mixing the whole thing together.
 

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Co workers are very dangerous in deed, she has a boyfriend now and even if she gave me all the signs she was also looking elsewhere, but its all good as you say dating a co worker is dangerous, if things go wrong. I feel that the post I created staying single for life applies to a lot of us older people when you reach 40 its harder to find someone with baggage and also if they have kids you have kids mixing the whole thing together.
Shitting where you eat is no bueno but very fun because you get a constant whiff of it :p
 

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Talking about kinky stuff not love! Sorry, but I have a very kinky side and it does not work with a regular partner! I’ve tried both and I feel truly myself and free with an sp! Go with how you feel!
I get you for your point.
But I must say, as much as I desire the kinky, the most outlandish things are reserved for my master only. I had enough serious relationships that I wouldn't share my fantasies with, because they wouldn't understand. And I wouldn't do them with anyone else either. Only within the acceptance, love and trust I have with my master do I allow him the knowledge of everything. I couldn't trust someone who didn't whole heartedly love me know me to my core, or do any of that with me either.
And with all that, it's mostly vanilla with people I meet, or they get just as much as I allow of them to see that side of myself. Clients have limits, my master/love/life relationship doesn't, because I know he can be trusted not to go too far.
 

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My hunch is that quite a few women nowadays would love to be stay at home moms, but fear the stigma. Isn't that crazy that we've come to this? Raising a child.

Let's acknowledge that the cost of living crisis is not helping at all.
I couldn't be a stay at home mom. I tried when I was unemployment and also had to be on welfare for a while, for unemployment to pay for my schooling (I was 25 with 2 kids, and needed to make more of myself then that. And unemployment was my only way to get further education. If i went to work i would loose that opportunity. ) I needed to work to feel like I could add value to my self-worth. I applaud trad-wives, the whole point of feminism was for equality, so women could choose to make that choice, and not have to rely on the decisions of men to survive. But if she is in a relationship, and they both want this kind of home, then all the power to them, and I'm happy they found a complimentary relationship for their needs.
Feminism wasn't ment to overpower men, it was designed so women's livelihood wasn't dependant on men, and keep them trapped in unhealthy relationships. But it also stands for if that is what they want/need for their happiness, reffering to both people in the relationship, then it is a beautiful thing.
The economy does play a role in this though. It is 1 thing for someone to support just themselves on say 30,000/year, it is another thing entirely to support oneself on that compared to supporting 2 adults and possibly children on that same amount. And the idea that the money belongs only to the person earning it completely devalues the other partner. And I say this coming from relationships where I was the one often supporting them, as a civi, i wasn't an SW. So roles reversed. Admittedly I didn't trust men for a relationship where I had to rely on him, the hims I had dealt with in relationships proved they couldn't be trusted as providers for the home. I provided for myself and my kids, and the man was the addition, not me and my kids being his addition.
Thankfully my relationship now isn't like that, but he handles his household, and I handle mine. One day it will be blended, but that will be when both our kids are ready and in the next stages of their lives, for easier transition.
 

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I get you for your point.
But I must say, as much as I desire the kinky, the most outlandish things are reserved for my master only. I had enough serious relationships that I wouldn't share my fantasies with, because they wouldn't understand. And I wouldn't do them with anyone else either. Only within the acceptance, love and trust I have with my master do I allow him the knowledge of everything. I couldn't trust someone who didn't whole heartedly love me know me to my core, or do any of that with me either.
And with all that, it's mostly vanilla with people I meet, or they get just as much as I allow of them to see that side of myself. Clients have limits, my master/love/life relationship doesn't, because I know he can be trusted not to go too far.
How did you develop the Fetlife with the kinks and the master-slave relationships
I’m generally vanilla with all my relationships but recently friend wants to introduce me into the lifestyle
I think he is a munch specialist and like to organize get togethers.
Did you observe for a while if it was for you before jumping in?
 

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I will share this on this topic. If anyone has ever seen the movie "Deliverance" 1972 with Burt Reynolds, and Jon Voight among others, they would know there was a brutal rape scene in the movie. It was a man, raping another man, and telling him to "squeal like a pig boy", a subtle hint at what this rapist was doing on the farm in Appalachia growing up, lol!

Before the movie was released feminist organizations in the US, and indeed globally, protested loudly about this rape scene and the depiction of another man raping another man.

Why?

Precisely because it was another man raping another man, and not a woman, therefore it did not benefit their cause. Yes, men understand that women are raped by men, no doubt about that. What seems to fall by the wayside is that men rape other men, and it is never talked about. One needs to venture no further than any prison in Canada or the US where this is a daily occurrence and reality. Men do not talk about this shame.

Shame on these feminist organizations for attempting to deny a male reality, rape. They are the same organizations that attempted to have misandry eradicated from the dictionary and failed miserably, just like they did with the rape scene from Deliverance.
That is their error. The very fact that a man can be made to suffer the same fate at the hands of another man, should only be viewed as a confirmation about how unsafe anyone in a vulnerable situation can suffer SA. My thought when seeing this post only backs up that awful meme that circulates, which would a woman prefer to be alone in the woods with, a bear or a man. Same can be said for a man, a bear or a man. We never know the intentions of another human being, but we know what the bears intentions are, and are more able to avoid them.
 

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How did you develop the Fetlife with the kinks and the master-slave relationships
I’m generally vanilla with all my relationships but recently friend wants to introduce me into the lifestyle
I think he is a munch specialist and like to organize get togethers.
Did you observe for a while if it was for you before jumping in?
It was something always within me. I had crazy fantasies before internet porn became so prevalent. Having fantasies that were just in my mind before I knew there was even a thing about it. Having my partner enjoy sharing me with others was often a constant reoccurring one. (One of those things I couldn't share with my past relationships, and actually only got braught up when I was already locked in, in this one.) But I knew I wanted a solid D/S relationship back when I was a young teenager, I just wasn't going to settle for just any dom though.

I went to my first few events while I was in a long term relationship, with someone who was safe to explore with because i wasn't all that emotionally invested in him, saw him as a good toy. And was exposed to quite a kinky array of options. I thought everything facinating, and exciting. But I was the dominant one in that relationship, and my desire was to expierience these things as a sub to the someone I dreamed I would choose to belong to one day if I was so lucky.

I had been to a munch, I found the people so facinating, and also went to an orgy party planned by someone 6 years ago, but was shy to get involved, and only seemed to gravitate to the 1 M/S pair that was there, and bonded as we spoke about nipple clamps. I was on the outside looking in for many years. Being educated hopeing one day I would find my someone. I had many doms over the years try to play dominate, but I would overpower them and they would submit to me, which I lost intrest in them instantly when they did. Had a few more offer to educate me in the mean time so I could start experiencing, I refused, because to me, I am more picky about who I chose to allow to dominate me, and submit to, than I was about choosing a regular relationship. He had to earn the right for my submission, and that didn't come easy. Even for him the first contact was about 16-17 years ago, and only really started to get to know him about 11 years ago. It was a long time friendship before we ever became a couple, often in single moments between relationships because we were both the type to put our relationship 1st, and cut contact with possibilities to give those relationships the best chance for success. And he isn't the type to have revolving temporary relationships. When he commits to someone it is all of him who commits, they just weren't compatible in the end. Too much compromise when you have to shut down a whole part of your being and desires to be with someone, we both learnt that lesson. We found eachother, and don't have to compromise our core selves together, we enrich and expand on it together.
 
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