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I think blaming societal changes on women's rights is really unfair.. We still have a long way to go. Nobody talks about this but cases of domestic violence sky rocketed during the pandemic, and people being so isolated during these years forgot how to socialize. Hook up culture and disposability culture aren't due to women having more rights, they're caused by capitalism in my opinion. A lot of people want short term friendships and relationships and hook ups because the current social climate doesn't allow people to develop deeper connections. I blame social media etc. An avoidant attachment style is often due to trauma, but people behaving in an avoidant way, both men and women, is becoming more and more common..
It's not so much women's rights as the increase in divorce, and its devastating effects on children during adult life. This is what we're seeing all around us today, to a large extent. If a women is being abused, cheated on, then sure, divorce becomes almost inevitable. But seeing married or unmarried couples, who suddenly "don't go along together" separating often with insufficient efforts to patch things up, ends up setting up their children for a lifetime of relationship problems, or worse. Also maybe thinking more before having children would be a good idea.

I agree with all the technological factors you mention. They came up later, as an add-on to the problem I describe above that started to appear in the 80's-90's.
 

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I think blaming societal changes on women's rights is really unfair.. We still have a long way to go. Nobody talks about this but cases of domestic violence sky rocketed during the pandemic, and people being so isolated during these years forgot how to socialize. Hook up culture and disposability culture aren't due to women having more rights, they're caused by capitalism in my opinion. A lot of people want short term friendships and relationships and hook ups because the current social climate doesn't allow people to develop deeper connections. I blame social media etc. An avoidant attachment style is often due to trauma, but people behaving in an avoidant way, both men and women, is becoming more and more common..
This is where I respectfully disagree! Many know where I stand on this!

I feel like feminism is & was important - we’ve come a very long way and it was needed at some point in time, absolutely!

However, what more rights do we need? We have them all. Lots of these feminism movements have now bullied men and tried to erase them from society.

Real oppression still exists in other countries where women can’t sing, talk or read in public, child marriage and consent ages lowered to nine - those are real issues that come within that demographic and culture / religion that those men abide by. Here in the Americas, we have everything we need and more. and the abortion topic that everyone thinks Trump is getting rid of abortions is FALSE. It’s illegal to deny women’s rights. There’s a huggggge mishandling of horrible situations that happened to women in the states. But abortion is a state by state issue - it was an issue way before the orange man came into office. He was once president he never banned it.

I’m friends with a liberal OG feminist and she tells me how she’s fed up with the new feminism movement. The new crowd actually makes it harder to talk about real issues for women. She says that there’s a lot of mental illness in these new trendy groups at the clinic she works in. They quibble about pronouns and are extreme in their demands and the real, core issues never get the focus they deserve.

What I find most laughable is this whole: a man is a woman and a woman is a man.
The woke crowd goes real silent though when MALE prisoners who get transferred into women’s prisons beat, r*pe and impregnate these women.
They get reduced sentences just because of how they identify.
What about the women who were abused and found their safe spaces in a breastfeeding group? - to now see a man come in and lurk at them and join the conversation.

Un moment donné là ça suffit le niaisage. It starts to become a privilege and not so much a right. And this is what happens when privilege is given to people who have mental illness.

Also am friends with OG or “normal” trans and gays HAHAH. My friend Buck Angel is one of them. He knows he has a mental disorder and he vouches for kids (gender anffirming care. Shouldn’t even be a thing! That’s child abuse) and women who are also now being erased from the woke and rainbow crowd. Everybody has their rights. Even gays and trans. The “normal” ones (we all laugh lmao because it’s become ridiculous) don’t go around screaming and parading naked in crowds to feel accepted. They just fly under the radar because that’s what they wanna do. They don’t wanna bring attention to themselves. They wanna live as the other sex and go unnoticed and don’t impose their personal choices onto society.
 

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This is where I respectfully disagree! Many know where I stand on this!

I feel like feminism is & was important - we’ve come a very long way and it was needed at some point in time, absolutely!

However, what more rights do we need? We have them all. Lots of these feminism movements have now bullied men and tried to erase them from society.

Real oppression still exists in other countries where women can’t sing, talk or read in public, child marriage and consent ages lowered to nine - those are real issues that come within that demographic and culture / religion that those men abide by. Here in the Americas, we have everything we need and more. and the abortion topic that everyone thinks Trump is getting rid of abortions is FALSE. It’s illegal to deny women’s rights. There’s a huggggge mishandling of horrible situations that happened to women in the states. But abortion is a state by state issue - it was an issue way before the orange man came into office. He was once president he never banned it.

I’m friends with a liberal OG feminist and she tells me how she’s fed up with the new feminism movement. The new crowd actually makes it harder to talk about real issues for women. She says that there’s a lot of mental illness in these new trendy groups at the clinic she works in. They quibble about pronouns and are extreme in their demands and the real, core issues never get the focus they deserve.

What I find most laughable is this whole: a man is a woman and a woman is a man.
The woke crowd goes real silent though when MALE prisoners who get transferred into women’s prisons beat, r*pe and impregnate these women.
They get reduced sentences just because of how they identify.
What about the women who were abused and found their safe spaces in a breastfeeding group? - to now see a man come in and lurk at them and join the conversation.

Un moment donné là ça suffit le niaisage. It starts to become a privilege and not so much a right. And this is what happens when privilege is given to people who have mental illness.

Also am friends with OG or “normal” trans and gays HAHAH. My friend Buck Angel is one of them. He knows he has a mental disorder and he vouches for kids (gender anffirming care. Shouldn’t even be a thing! That’s child abuse) and women who are also now being erased from the woke and rainbow crowd. Everybody has their rights. Even gays and trans. The “normal” ones (we all laugh lmao because it’s become ridiculous) don’t go around screaming and parading naked in crowds to feel accepted. They just fly under the radar because that’s what they wanna do. They don’t wanna bring attention to themselves. They wanna live as the other sex and go unnoticed and don’t impose their personal choices onto society.
This is probably the best explanation I have seen.
I really don’t care how someone wants to live their life they only have one and it is their right to live it as they please as long as they are not harming anyone,
I do not want to have it shoved in my face everywhere I turn I certainly don’t want their lifestyle being preached at schools to my grandchildren and fuck anyone that goes near children to preach to them about the wonders of a sex change, let them decide for themselves when they are adults.
As far as feminism, I agree in North America women have the same rights as men as they should. There should be equal treatment and equal pay for the same job.
You can have an amazing life with woman, you can share your love, your life a family and have a life time of priceless memories they are not that much different in their dreams and wishes than men.
Why women or men for that matter have to see the opposite sex as adversaries I will never understand there is nothing like being with a woman that returns your love.
 

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This is probably the best explanation I have seen.
I really don’t care how someone wants to live their life they only have one and it is their right to live it as they please as long as they are not harming anyone,
I do not want to have it shoved in my face everywhere I turn I certainly don’t want their lifestyle being preached at schools to my grandchildren and fuck anyone that goes near children to preach to them about the wonders of a sex change, let them decide for themselves when they are adults.
Spot on!!
I have many trans and gay friends that don’t cause a ruckus LOL!

Why women or men for that matter have to see the opposite sex as adversaries I will never understand there is nothing like being with a woman that returns your love.
As for the adversary stuff I think it became a trend to “fuck the patriarchy” … it’s really sad to see.
Those days are over - it’s very rare I see actual misogynists, racist or transphobic people. It shouldn’t be a movement shoved down everyone’s throats. Thats actually perpetuating the issue when there’s none. (In the Americas that is - or really specific to a person / psycho LMAO)

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Forgot to add this: Lots of women in the industry have a hatred for men yet men are their biggest clientele. I find it fkn insulting to you guys. If they wonder why their business is failing maybe they should start with not having a business that caters to 99% of men in the first place lmao.
 
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The Unexpected Legacy of Divorce: A 25 Year Landmark Study https://a.co/d/77MpoZx

"In this compelling, thought-provoking book, Judith Wallerstein explains that, while children do learn to cope with divorce, it in fact takes its greatest toll in adulthood [...] Wallerstein sensitively illustrates how children of divorce often feel that their relationships are doomed, seek to avoid conflict, and fear commitment. Failure in their loving relationships often seems to them preordained [...]"

I look forward to reading this book (published in 2001).
 

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The Unexpected Legacy of Divorce: A 25 Year Landmark Study https://a.co/d/77MpoZx

"In this compelling, thought-provoking book, Judith Wallerstein explains that, while children do learn to cope with divorce, it in fact takes its greatest toll in adulthood [...] Wallerstein sensitively illustrates how children of divorce often feel that their relationships are doomed, seek to avoid conflict, and fear commitment. Failure in their loving relationships often seems to them preordained [...]"

I look forward to reading this book (published in 2001).
Makes sense, my parents are not divorced but I have friends and colleagues who suffered from parents divorcing. There views on dating are much different then my own and whole fully negative for the most part. In my country divorces rates are almost null and extremely rare, along with single parenting, having multiple baby mothers and fathers and blended families, it's seen as morally abhorrent and not beneficial for child development.

It's different from what I noticed in Quebec, single parenting is common, divorced parents, blended families etc baby mamas and fathers with multiple partners, it seems to be an encouraged lifestyle here, as if no one cares to give their children a healthy married two parent household. I'm sorry but if you have kids and your married, divorce should only be necessary for extenuating circumstances such as all forms of abuse.Once you have kids your needs should be ahead of yours, even if you do not love your partner just find another alternative for your children sake. I understand why there is a heavy reliance on antidepressants in this province if the nuclear family unit is not encouraged.

Shout out to the married men who see escorts who don't want to impact their children by divorce and separation, you have my respect.
 
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It's different from what I noticed in Quebec, single parenting is common, divorced parents, blended families etc baby mamas and fathers with multiple partners, it seems to be an encouraged lifestyle here, as if no one cares to give their children a healthy married two parent household
Bingo! Bullseye!

The problem in Québec is that we have been evolving for the past four or five decades in a moral vacuum, having abandoned wholesale the Catholic Church in the aftermath of the Quiet Revolution. Some members of the Church did commit abuses. However, at the community and individual level, religiosity provides immense benefits: a moral compass, a sense of belonging, and it fosters family values. In the late 20th/ early 21st century, Québec had the highest suicide rate in Canada, by far. (We often heard "highest in the developed world" although I'm not sure that was true) Why? No one, even academics, could pinpoint exactly why. My favored hypothesis is that it was directly related to a pervasive sense of meaninglessness in a suddenly highly secular society that had lost its moral compass (religion). This feeling persists to this day, even if progress has been made to lower suicide rates through intensive public health efforts. To fill the vacuum left by the decline of the Church, a powerful nanny state was created. People could surrender their personal responsibilities to the government, which would take care of them, often poorly, from cradle to grave. The state, at your request, with the agreement of two doctors, can now euthanize you. This is widely seen as progress here. Indeed, "progressive values" became the de facto religion in Québec. Low marriage rates, high divorce rates, high rates of illegitimacy: all things that are usually associated with the underclass in the United States. Here it permeates all levels of society. With the results that we know.

My message of hope is: if you have abandoned your faith, consider going back.
 
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You all are lucky to Iive in Canada, where "it’s very rare [to] see actual misogynists, racist or transphobic people." I'm delighted to know that gender equality exists in Canada, since it obviously doesn't in the US. This board might suggest otherwise, but I suppose all the misogynistic, racist, and transphobic posts out here (and there are plenty) are written by folks from south of the border. Still, it's a little rich to hear men on an escort forum recommend more Christianity and a stronger commitment to marriage. :cool:
 

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Makes sense, my parents are not divorced but I have friends and colleagues who suffered from parents divorcing. There views on dating are much different then my own and whole fully negative for the most part. In my country divorces rates are almost null and extremely rare, along with single parenting, having multiple baby mothers and fathers and blended families, it's seen as morally abhorrent and not beneficial for child development.

It's different from what I noticed in Quebec, single parenting is common, divorced parents, blended families etc baby mamas and fathers with multiple partners, it seems to be an encouraged lifestyle here, as if no one cares to give their children a healthy married two parent household. I'm sorry but if you have kids and your married, divorce should only be necessary for extenuating circumstances such as all forms of abuse.Once you have kids your needs should be ahead of yours, even if you do not love your partner just find another alternative for your children sake. I understand why there is a heavy reliance on antidepressants in this province if the nuclear family unit is not encouraged.

Shout out to the married men who see escorts who don't want to impact their children by divorce and separation, you have my respect.
You are all ready paying when married so mite as well see hot escorts
 

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The problem in Québec is that we have been evolving for the past four or five decades in a moral vacuum, having abandoned wholesale the Catholic Church in the aftermath of the Quiet Revolution
This is so true.

It is the fundamental reason we have to bring people to Québec, to have babies. You will notice the change in numbers vis-a-vis the rise in immigration and the drastic drop in the fertility rate among women in Québec, which coincides directly with this so-called revolution.

Most major religions require a belief in certain principles and morality, and Catholicism is no different. In short, Groucho Marx used to say, "These are my morals if you don't like them.........I have others". This is exactly what happened with Québec, they found others.

The question remains, Has it served them well?
 
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Hello readers,

I ask myself many questions. Like why don't I approach women in my usual environmennt. As a young man of 23 years old, modestly looking, 140 pounds, average height, tanned, good hair, I completely avoid interaction with the girls I'm very attracted to. But somehow, completely fine talking with the ones I'm not interested in.

This week, I exhanged deep looks with this girl. Tempting looks with smiles and all. I had to walk across the room and she was in the other side. As she was standing in front of me, I simply said ''excuse me I have to pass'' while looking down! She was totally at my taste. Brunette and gorgeous.

Is not like I am a massive pedo. I don't understand. I haven't seen hookers in months and try to avoid sex as much as I can even if my drive is through the roof. It's a constant battle between my mind and my desires.

Any opinion on this?
Its the age old question and why you don't is fear of rejection. I am a lot older now at 48 and there is a new women at work in my department, she as been giving me long glance, major eye contact even cough her off guard looking at my private part.. weird, she is a bit nerdy looking with glasses but i like it a lot. I talk to her we joke the other day she said don't move you have a hair in your beard. She removed it, if i don't take to her she seems to get angry. But yet i teamed her on the chat at work and she did not reply to me (sent her a link about training program for women). She gave me a lot of signs and i was too stupid to act, now she might have lost attraction for me, i know she does go on dates with other men, but she can't wait for me.

I have no issues talking to women, my main damn issue is pushing things forward, asking her out and yes even at my age i still have this fear of rejection
 

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You all are lucky to Iive in Canada, where "it’s very rare [to] see actual misogynists, racist or transphobic people." I'm delighted to know that gender equality exists in Canada, since it obviously doesn't in the US. This board might suggest otherwise, but I suppose all the misogynistic, racist, and transphobic posts out here (and there are plenty) are written by folks from south of the border. Still, it's a little rich to hear men on an escort forum recommend more Christianity and a stronger commitment to marriage. :cool:
Yes but misandry is becoming more common among young women.
 

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Ask anyone what a misogynist is and they know.

Ask them what a misandrist is and you usually get a clueless look and response.

That speaks volumes.
Yep and I blame the far-left Liberals. They are promoting misandry. The cisdenger heterosexual man can be bashed and ppl will be silent all due to far-left Liberal governments. That has to change. If you look at the stats, there are more then double the amount of men who are single compared to women and that speaks volumes also.
 

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I will share this on this topic. If anyone has ever seen the movie "Deliverance" 1972 with Burt Reynolds, and Jon Voight among others, they would know there was a brutal rape scene in the movie. It was a man, raping another man, and telling him to "squeal like a pig boy", a subtle hint at what this rapist was doing on the farm in Appalachia growing up, lol!

Before the movie was released feminist organizations in the US, and indeed globally, protested loudly about this rape scene and the depiction of another man raping another man.

Why?

Precisely because it was another man raping another man, and not a woman, therefore it did not benefit their cause. Yes, men understand that women are raped by men, no doubt about that. What seems to fall by the wayside is that men rape other men, and it is never talked about. One needs to venture no further than any prison in Canada or the US where this is a daily occurrence and reality. Men do not talk about this shame.

Shame on these feminist organizations for attempting to deny a male reality, rape. They are the same organizations that attempted to have misandry eradicated from the dictionary and failed miserably, just like they did with the rape scene from Deliverance.
 

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Yep and I blame the far-left Liberals. They are promoting misandry. The cisdenger heterosexual man can be bashed and ppl will be silent all due to far-left Liberal governments. That has to change. If you look at the stats, there are more then double the amount of men who are single compared to women and that speaks volumes also.
i dont understand, does that mean that women are dating each other? because the population is basically 50-50 men and women
 

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I will share this on this topic. If anyone has ever seen the movie "Deliverance" 1972 with Burt Reynolds, and Jon Voight among others, they would know there was a brutal rape scene in the movie. It was a man, raping another man, and telling him to "squeal like a pig boy", a subtle hint at what this rapist was doing on the farm in Appalachia growing up, lol!

Before the movie was released feminist organizations in the US, and indeed globally, protested loudly about this rape scene and the depiction of another man raping another man.

Why?

Precisely because it was another man raping another man, and not a woman, therefore it did not benefit their cause. Yes, men understand that women are raped by men, no doubt about that. What seems to fall by the wayside is that men rape other men, and it is never talked about. One needs to venture no further than any prison in Canada or the US where this is a daily occurrence and reality. Men do not talk about this shame.

Shame on these feminist organizations for attempting to deny a male reality, rape. They are the same organizations that attempted to have misandry eradicated from the dictionary and failed miserably, just like they did with the rape scene from Deliverance.
gimme a break. False equivalency that men being raped is an issue like women being raped. Go to war-torn countries and see how many men are being raped as compared to women
 
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