I stand by what I said. It is a reality for many men on a daily basis.
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I've read that some protested the movie because of its perceived stereotyping of southern Appalachia. It was certainly a controversial movie. Could you share some (responsible) journalism on the feminist protests, which I hadn't heard about?
You will have to do the research yourself, it was widely reported at the time of the movie's release. I remember it well as a young boy in the early 1970s.
In terms of the perceived stereotyping of southern Appalachia that was very much an issue as well. Indeed, you are correct it was a very controversial movie that pushed the boundaries of what was considered hush-hush topics of the day.
In terms of the perceived stereotyping of southern Appalachia that was very much an issue as well. Indeed, you are correct it was a very controversial movie that pushed the boundaries of what was considered hush-hush topics of the day.
I also remember the movie as a young boy in the 1970s. Quite something. Burt Reynolds became a bit of a Hollywood parody, but he could command a scene. I did some google searches and couldn't find anything about feminist protests, but perhaps I didn't google hard enough.
It's an excellent movie. One could make the argument that it was the best performance of Burt Reynolds career, along with Boogie Nights which he made in 1997. However it's Ned Beatty who gets raped and Reynolds who kills the rapist in the movie.
I agree, certainly one of Burt Reynolds best performance ever! I was kayaking and canoing in those years and the movie haunted me for a few years!
I was going to mention his performance in Boogie Nights, which came out of nowhere and was outstanding. Although I wish he had been more ambitious with his roles overall, he always had a sense of humor about himself and his reputation. He was in Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex (But Were Afraid to Ask)!
But Deliverance is something else. It was BIG. And of course ... those dueling banjos.
I don't think "especially" among strippers, as it's common in every circle. I don't think there are more lesbians/bisexual women now than there were before though, I just think people feel more free to be who they are than they did 20+ years ago. And women have more rights now than they did before. Until 1964 if two women dated in Canada they wouldn't have had a bank account for their household because women weren't allowed to have bank accounts without a man's (specifically husband) signature until 1964 for example. So it was likely hard to imagine living life with another woman. We could only exist in society if we had a man by our side lol..
You respect married men who intentionally cheat on their spouse by paying top dollar over and over again to sleep with multiple escorts instead of getting a divorce? Lol man, we have different definitions of respect lol
I think your post represents a very simplistic, shallow and judgmental view of men who cheat on their wives with escorts.
One of my best friends, who is happily married for about 30 years to his college sweetheart, has accompanied me on many escort trips to Montreal, one time even lying to his wife by telling her he was going to Montreal to "christen" my new condo, which does not exist. I think he loves his wife, but there is something he is not getting from her sexually any more that needs to be satisfied. I think the excitement of sex with one's wife wears off for some, especially those who need primal, raw type sexual encounters. That does not mean they do not still love their wives and get other companionship and affection out of the relationship that is satisfying.
He is never going to divorce his wife, and apart from the fact that he is cheating on her, he is extremely loyal and supporting of her. As far as I can see they have a great relationship and wonderful children whom they are also very supportive of and who are doing well and developing well.
You should not be so conclusively, sweepingly judgmental of all married men who see escorts.
Especially if you have kinky needs! There is a certain level with a wife that maybe becomes boring so maybe you need that stranger escort encounter that makes you fully free and un inhibited that satisfies your true hidden desires!
Using “cheating” and “loyal” when describing said person in the same sentence is extremely contradictory and ironic lol. If you feel the need to spend a lot of money (that belongs to both you and your spouse, btw) to sleep with a sex worker behind their backs, you are not loyal, and you are not happy. Leave. Imagine they found out, imagine how they would feel. How can you truly say you love someone while sleeping with multiple different sex workers behind their back AND taking their hard working money from them in order to cheat on them. It just doesn’t add up. No one can ever justify why they cheat on their spouse instead of divorcing, especially when sleeping with escorts becomes a dangerous addiction.
Perhaps on the surface but it's also true in his case. He cheats, but apart from this he is very loyal to his wife, as his dog is to him. I have observed it. He just isn't getting something from her that he needs.
I stopped approaching women for anything about a few years ago. Not worth the effort anymore or the time. Only in my mid 30s but I've had enough of it.
Nothing for me at least to be gained from it.
Nothing for me at least to be gained from it.
Wrong, nobody in a situation like his would ever be described as “loyal”. Ever. But I respect your opinion!
The best thing a mother can do in this situation is divorce her cheating husband, and teach her sons that that kind of behavior is not acceptable, and teach her daughters not to tollerate a relationship she isn't respected in.
There are a lot of men who need to learn their entitlement is not acceptable, and she has just as much entitlement, to a partner who respects her and doesn't chase after other women. She doesn't get married just to have kids and a home, she gets married for a faithful and loyal partner in life. If he can't be that then he doesn't deserve what she is providing for him.
Thank God we live in a society now where men are finally being held accountable for their behavior, and women no longer have to tollerate a shit partner. The problem these men have is they don't want to be better, they want to be a bad partner and she should just have to take his unacceptable behaviors. If you don't want your partner doing something, then you offer them the equal respect not to do it yourself.
A mother who leave a partner who is not respecting her, is doing the best possible thing she can by her kids, teaching them to respect themselves enough not to tollerate disrespect from people/partners they invite to share their lives with.
And yes more women who are bi, might likely choose to be in a relationship with another woman, over being with a man. Because they crave a relationship they aren't being forced into a patriarchal gender role, and get to be who they are instead.
We all fear rejection. Best we can do is show people who we are, and hope a relationship can form. Like someone else said, we miss 100% of the shots we don't take.
Hope you don't wait too long before you miss your chance. Co-workers are kind of a dangerous place to search for a relationship though. If it works, your around eachother 24hrs a day 7 days a week, if it doesn't, where you spend most of your waking hours, is made uncomfortable, for either one, or both.
I side on I want people to have happy healthy mutual relationships. Unfortunately that doesn't seem to be how a lot of relationships work out though.
For OP, I hope he also learns rejection isn't the end of the world. It is hard, and depending on how sensitive someone is can hurt, but we also hope when it is right, it shouldn't be so difficult. Even for an attractive person, the best thing you can do is see them as a person rather then put them on a pedestal because you think them out of reach. It is rather uncomfortable to be in a relationship where there is that kind of imbalance.
Shitting where you eat is no bueno but very fun because you get a constant whiff of it
I get you for your point.
But I must say, as much as I desire the kinky, the most outlandish things are reserved for my master only. I had enough serious relationships that I wouldn't share my fantasies with, because they wouldn't understand. And I wouldn't do them with anyone else either. Only within the acceptance, love and trust I have with my master do I allow him the knowledge of everything. I couldn't trust someone who didn't whole heartedly love me know me to my core, or do any of that with me either.
And with all that, it's mostly vanilla with people I meet, or they get just as much as I allow of them to see that side of myself. Clients have limits, my master/love/life relationship doesn't, because I know he can be trusted not to go too far.
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