I like 100/100 to be fair. Because I won’t do all the work and I won’t let the other do all the work either. Titty for tata.
Approaching women
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Yeah for sure, I agree with you! I'm just saying this is perhaps why women don't make the first move. A lot of men here talk about fearing rejection, but everyone is afraid of getting rejected and everyone has abandonment issues. I've asked men out before who had been chasing me for a month, and as soon as I started showing interest they were turned off. Dating is complicated for everyone.
True say for that, which is why I opted out. Not interested in these games.
I'm a hopeless romantic so I still have hope lol .. but dating apps aren't doing it for me. I get it. Nobody wins. A lot of guys think that women have it so much easier with dating, but it's just easier for us to find people to have sex with.. To find someone who will treat us well is very very hard. I often feel better treated by clients than by men I've dated in the past, sadly.
I guess that is the difference. Men and women are not seeking the same thing.I'm a hopeless romantic so I still have hope lol .. but dating apps aren't doing it for me. I get it. Nobody wins. A lot of guys think that women have it so much easier with dating, but it's just easier for us to find people to have sex with.. To find someone who will treat us well is very very hard. I often feel better treated by clients than by men I've dated in the past, sadly.
I want a partner that will tell me it’s okay to get more cats.
that's not necessarily true, a lot of men want romantic relationships, but one thing i've noticed on dating apps in particular is that very often men are not honest about what they want. some men want casual sex and hook ups and relationships that aren't serious, but they don't say that, and they present themselves differently. there are women who want to have casual sex. people should be upfront about what they want.
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I'm glad they work for you! I've never had a positive experience on a dating app personally.. I've met people I became friends with on apps, but I've never had a healthy or positive relationship with somebody I matched with on an app at all, ever. If you're looking for hook ups and light flirtations it's perfect, but that's not what I want.
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Letting statistics play out, if you are a man, has been shown to result in failure with a high degree of probability. Good for you if you are in the happy minority.
I don't think that is what the poster means. What he means is that you send out 20 messages and you maybe get 2 dates. That's a high degree of failure for the "happy minority." I had the same experience as Flabert.
It is a classical paradox that women selling sex are often less cynical and more romantic in civilian life than ordinary women. As a result, they often become victims of pimps and other predatory men exploiting this trend.
I tried PlentyOffFish. I had worse odds, usually no replies and not one date. I given up on those sites years ago. These sites are so much in favor for women.
I don't think that's necessarily true, but I definitely think that being a sex worker changed my relationship to dating in fascinating ways. When I first started, like many sex workers who begin their career, I attracted a lot of predatory men.. What's interesting about this is that most things I experienced as a sex worker, I had already experienced dating men in my personal life. I realized eventually that I was normalizing certain behaviours that are not acceptable, and there are things I no longer tolerate in my interpersonal relationships.. I'm learning to communicate my needs and boundaries a lot more clearly.
Paradoxically, I find myself being more lenient of people, including men, making mistakes in my dating life and not being ''the ideal partner''. I tend to date women more often than men and I realized that I was holding women to much higher standards than men, and it wasn't fair to them. I also realized that while I normalized some abusive behaviours that men have, I held a lot of resentment towards men in general and it made me not see individuals for who they really were.
I have a lot healthier friendships with men too because I've developed more empathy.I feel for you a lot.
I used to have a lot of problems approaching women or people in general.
My early adulthood life was not very kind to me, physically. Somehow, found someone, stuck with her for a long time then we called it quit. Was close to my forties and I did not know how to approach women nor how to deal with rejection.
That learning was tough.
But I realized that it is not that difficult. Best encounters I had were actual random meetings. At Costco (yup!), I was comparing two similar products with all the brain power I have. A woman noticed, laughed at me and we talked. Sometime I will tell women that I think her coat or shirt is beautiful and suits her well (which I always really think).
What I've learned is when you just want to talk to people, with no other intention of saying hi or expecting anything, good thing happens. Of course you'll get rejected but that is just part of learning.
Being funny helps a lot. Something you must not do is hesitating. Just be yourself, be genuine, have a smile and shoot your shot. You will be surprised.
I used to have a lot of problems approaching women or people in general.
My early adulthood life was not very kind to me, physically. Somehow, found someone, stuck with her for a long time then we called it quit. Was close to my forties and I did not know how to approach women nor how to deal with rejection.
That learning was tough.
But I realized that it is not that difficult. Best encounters I had were actual random meetings. At Costco (yup!), I was comparing two similar products with all the brain power I have. A woman noticed, laughed at me and we talked. Sometime I will tell women that I think her coat or shirt is beautiful and suits her well (which I always really think).
What I've learned is when you just want to talk to people, with no other intention of saying hi or expecting anything, good thing happens. Of course you'll get rejected but that is just part of learning.
Being funny helps a lot. Something you must not do is hesitating. Just be yourself, be genuine, have a smile and shoot your shot. You will be surprised.
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