Ask us anything part 3

[Lunaseraphim]

I think the Capt has a point that GFE was standing for a certain type of service and what is included in it.
It was an easy way for a client to know what he can expect and I don’t see anything wrong with that.
Personally that and looks may be what I use to choose a companion but it is certainly not the reason I will keep seeing her.

I am quite easy to please so acronyms are not a must I am more into the sensual and easy going experience where some relaxed conversation over wine may be as important as the physical gymnastics..

I am not the language police either I look at what is meant by what someone writes and not just the actual words.

I'm well aware that I can't advertise gfe without offering those services don't worry! That wasn't my point and I don't think that was what Rebaynia was talking about, either. We were just saying that the experience is MORE than just a set of acronyms.

That being said very often I get asked for services that are not part of the acronyms included in gfe and some have complained that I didn't offer them, and it's annoying.

(Example 2 reviews, one here and one elsewhere, saying I didn't dt the client which is not supposedly part of gfe and they actually never asked for it during the booking process OR during the appointment. I modified my ad to say it's ymmv and not always possible but i never even said I did it in the first place. Or ppl asking me to perform dato on them or do weird role play... My gfe service involves more than the usual acronyms sometimes but I'm very clear about what I do and don't do. I think im generous tho)

You also said it. Yes you will see a provider considering the fact that some acronyms are included but other reasons make you go back to a specific person and you enjoy the dates for many reasons not just the sexual part of the service.

 

[Fradi]

You also said it. Yes you will see a provider considering the fact that some acronyms are included but other reasons make you go back to a specific person and you enjoy the dates for many reasons not just the sexual part of the service.

Yes the ladies I see repeatedly I would be happy to drive to Costco lol, or anywhere else and to have them as a friend even if they stopped being escorts and they know it.

 

[Nachoy]

Sexual acts can be wide and varied
So including all certain acts in a category of either PSE or GFE is too simplistic in my view
I get a chuckle from these exchanges.
Disclaimer I’m not meeting escorts and doing SBs.
For me the ultimate girl friend experience is a SB that I take out for dates. Chat casually during dinner, hold hands and go shopping. Go together on trips and then have porn star sex when alone Best of both worlds in my opinion

I feel the word Simp is thrown around too casually by dudes who want to feel alpha to their counterparts staking their claim that “my dick is bigger than yours”.
Or maybe I’m wrong
And it’s the pot calling the kettle black.

 

[Nachoy]

Clear and entertaining explanation
Are you a Simp?

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Clear and entertaining explanation
Are you a Simp?

I can't tell if this is satire

 

[Nachoy]

I can't tell if this is satire

It is satire. But I think the gents would find it funnier than the girls

 

[LC18]

Clients:

What makes a paid date feel like a regular/unpaid date?

In other words, what things can make you forget that you paid to date that person?

 

[Nachoy]

Clients:

What makes a paid date feel like a regular/unpaid date?

In other words, what things can make you forget that you paid to date that person?

It’s always going feel like a paid date for me
Unless the other person paid for the date or part of the date.
Sorry if that not what you wanted to hear

 

[Fradi]

Sexual acts can be wide and varied
So including all certain acts in a category of either PSE or GFE is too simplistic in my view
I get a chuckle from these exchanges.
Disclaimer I’m not meeting escorts and doing SBs.
For me the ultimate girl friend experience is a SB that I take out for dates. Chat casually during dinner, hold hands and go shopping. Go together on trips and then have porn star sex when alone Best of both worlds in my opinion

I feel the word Simp is thrown around too casually by dudes who want to feel alpha to their counterparts staking their claim that “my dick is bigger than yours”.
Or maybe I’m wrong
And it’s the pot calling the kettle black.

I hate to tell you but SB are escorts in denial, they still fuck for money, but if you feel you are getting a better deal with them great that is what it is all about.
Personally I don’t give a shit what somebody calls me especially on an escort review board.
I am very comfortable with who I am, and the ladies I see repeatedly seem to be fine with it.

 

[Nachoy]

I hate to tell you but SB are escorts in denial, they still fuck for money, but if you feel you are getting a better deal with them great that is what it is all about.
Personally I don’t give a shit what somebody calls me especially on an escort review board.
I am very comfortable with who I am, and the ladies I see repeatedly seem to be fine with it.

Of course SBs are escort in denial.
Don’t be sorry to tell me. I know.
Tell the SBs that , but to them it’s different, they want to feel above escorts

 

[Fradi]

Clients:

What makes a paid date feel like a regular/unpaid date?

In other words, what things can make you forget that you paid to date that person?

That does not happen easily and it happens over time.
It is many things, kindness, respect above all probably trust, sharing things about yourself that are real, a feeling that both are happy to be in each others company,.
Not worrying about the clock and still being able to respect the other persons time.
Respectful communication, everyone likes to have their text messages, emails responded to in a timely manner.
Basically just a genuine kindness towards the other person.
I would say when seeing each other for the sake of seeing each other not just for sex becomes as important.

 

[Workingman]

Feel free to elaborate on whatever you think I am! I would be more than happy to hear it!

I would try, but you don't seem great at listening to what others have to say.

 

[Fradi]

Of course SBs are escort in denial.
Don’t be sorry to tell me. I know.
Tell the SBs that , but to them it’s different, they want to feel above escorts

Yes they are the snobs of the SW profession lol.

 

[Fradi]

I would try, but you don't seem great at listening to what others have to say.

This is just it if you have something to say, say it, he did, what! somebody on an escort review board is going to disagree with you.
WTF end of the world how can you show your face in public anymore.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

I hate to tell you but SB are escorts in denial, they still fuck for money, but if you feel you are getting a better deal with them great that is what it is all about.
Personally I don’t give a shit what somebody calls me especially on an escort review board.
I am very comfortable with who I am, and the ladies I see repeatedly seem to be fine with it.

Fradi, being a SB involves different things but I agree with you. A lot of ppl want SBs because they want escort services for cheaper. However I've heard of people having arrangements that are advantageous for both parties.

SB lifestyle is glamorized and idealized and a lot of girls don't know what they're getting into unfortunately.. I don't blame them personally and don't feel threatened by them but I wish certain men would stop seeing SB sites as a way to get escort services for cheap and push boundaries. I knew a guy who was a SD and he was also in complete denial of what he was doing. He thought these girls were his girlfriends.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Yes they are the snobs of the SW profession lol.

Not always, a lot of SBs are young and naive and have been told by friends that they will make a lot of money by just going to restaurants with men. A girl who already comes from a wealthy family, works as a model and has a good education, is not going to get the same type of treatment as a girl who's trying to make money on the side because she's in trouble financially and doesn't know what she's getting into. I've heard of young girls from wealthy families sugaring just for fun and for the glamour and meeting rich men and having the money to party all the time and to do whatever they want, but that's really not most girls who have a profile on these websites. I've met girls who told me the arrangements that were offered to them by their SD's and I was shocked by how exploitative it was for them. They just don't know what they're doing.

SD websites are also designed a little bit like they're dating sites. It's misleading and confusing for both parties, in a subtle way. I know nobody is stupid and they know what they are doing there, but what I mean by this is that the way apps and websites are designed still have impact on the brain. It can appear a lot more reassuring for a girl who has never escorted to use a SD website, even if nothing good comes out of it.

When I've taken breaks from escorting I signed up on seeking arrangements because I was wondering if it would be easier for me and honestly it's never been a good idea. I prefer escorting by far and I get a lot more respect and actually get taken on really nice dates. I never met anybody from there, was talked to in very disrespectful ways and was offered really bad arrangements and ''netflix and chill'' types of dates that were poorly compensated.

The (very few) people I know who have a SD and have a good arrangement with them met them in other ways (often through escorting or massage), or they just really got lucky.. Some people actually are in some type of romantic relationship but they decided that there would be an allowance for them to keep seeing each other so that the girl can pay for her studies or live a nice life, even if the dynamic is not 100% transactional..

 

[Fradi]

Not always, a lot of SBs are young and naive

I think I will be like the Captain here and call it what it is.
They are not naive but stupid.

Any woman that believes a man will spend thousands of dollars on winning and dinning them and just wants to admire their beauty and to be around them without it including sex simply put is exceptionally stupid it goes far beyond being naive.
They no nothing about men.

 

[EagerBeaver]

I think both of you are making a lot of generalizations that have no applicability in reality. I have been on Seeking Arrangement and Sugar Daddy for over 10 years and met many women on that site (SA). There are all types on there ranging from professional escorts to trannies to regular girls next door who don't know exactly what they want or how to value it. I have met women who are the opposite of what Fradi thinks is on there who wanted very little money (less than escort market rate) for sex. While others did want $1000. The experience is so broad and varied that anyone who makes any kind of generalized declaration about it would be dead wrong. To me it's a big box of chocolates in which all are different inside.

I did once see a lady on there who was very young and inexperienced and after a while she told me if we had a non-intimate date she wanted nothing and if we had an intimate date I could pay her $200 or what I thought she was worth. I was kind of surprised by that offer. I think I did give her $300, for the intimacy.

 

[Fradi]

Fradi, being a SB involves different things but I agree with you. A lot of ppl want SBs because they want escort services for cheaper. However I've heard of people having arrangements that are advantageous for both parties.

SB lifestyle is glamorized and idealized and a lot of girls don't know what they're getting into unfortunately.. I don't blame them personally and don't feel threatened by them but I wish certain men would stop seeing SB sites as a way to get escort services for cheap and push boundaries. I knew a guy who was a SD and he was also in complete denial of what he was doing. He thought these girls were his girlfriends.

The only difference I see between an escort and a SB is that with an escort you cut out all the pretend bullshit and accept each other for who they are.
You are right though with a SB arrangement negotiations are expected and part of the game.
With an escort it is considered an insult. I much prefer the escort never was much for bullshit or haggling.

 

[Fradi]

I think both of you are making a lot of generalizations that have no applicability in reality. I have been on Seeking Arrangement and Sugar Daddy for over 10 years and met many women on that site. There are all types on there ranging from professional escorts to trannies to regular girls next door who don't know exactly what they want or how to value it. I have met women who are the opposite of what Fradi thinks is on there who wanted very little money (less than escort market rate) for sex. While others did want $1000. The experience is so broad and varied that anyone who makes any kind of generalized declaration about it would be dead wrong. To me it's a big box of chocolates in which all are different inside.

I did once see a lady on there who was very young and inexperienced and after a while she told me if we had a non-intimate date she wanted nothing and if we had an intimate date I could pay her $200 or what I thought she was worth. I was kind of surprised by that offer. I think I did give her $300, for the intimacy.

What assumptions?
They all want money for being with you, end of assumptions. The details are beside the point.
Remember the old joke about would you have sex with me if I give you a million dollars.
The answer being now that we know what you are we are just haggling over the price.
If you are able to find what you are looking for there then that is great.