Ask us anything part 3

[LeDodo]

No, it's not like working a full day for free. I agree with you 100%, and that's not what LC was implying either. Also; what Giselle said. If a client books me for a 4 hour date frequently, obviously I will say yes to seeing a movie with him off the clock.. That just hasn't happened yet.

Then I was wondering if a client books a SP very often, what reaction will it trigger?

From few answers I see it seems it would be quite welcome. But is the contrary possible? Like he books too much and you kind of don't want to see him? I guess it will be on the basis you don't like him that much lol

 

[Lunaseraphim]

If you have a sweet client who is thoughtful and you know he gives many gifts and is respectful sure why not stay a little longer

Sometimes I do, but reality is I can't always stay longer. Sometimes there's another person after me who's going to use my incall, I have frequent medical appointments, sometimes I have plans with friends, sometimes I'm tired.

It’s not really free if you are a thoughtful host with giving many presents and you are a regular! It’s getting caught up in good conversations as well!

I don't offer people presents with the intention of receiving something for free.. That's just me, tho. Yes, getting caught up in good conversations can lead to the appointment ending a little later. But if I have to leave, I have to leave. Reality is that if you paid for a certain amount of time, you shouldn't complain if the person is asking you to leave or is leaving when the time is up.

The message earlier wasn't that it's unreasonable to ask to go to the movies for free with a regular SP you're seeing for long bookings frequently, in my opinion it's okay to ask for that.. the message was that the person actually might refuse and it should not be expected.. if you want an arrangement with someone, you can also discuss it with her. Many SP will accept a reasonable arrangement. Some won't, not because they're cruel bitches who hate their clients, but because they don't have the time for it. (maybe they have kids, they're in school, have health problems etc who knows)

 

[Enjoying life]

Sometimes I do, but reality is I can't always stay longer. Sometimes there's another person after me who's going to use my incall, I have frequent medical appointments, sometimes I have plans with friends, sometimes I'm tired.

I don't offer people presents with the intention of receiving something for free.. That's just me, tho. Yes, getting caught up in good conversations can lead to the appointment ending a little later. But if I have to leave, I have to leave. Reality is that if you paid for a certain amount of time, you shouldn't complain if the person is asking you to leave or is leaving when the time is up.

The message earlier wasn't that it's unreasonable to ask to go to the movies for free with a regular SP you're seeing for long bookings frequently, in my opinion it's okay to ask for that.. the message was that the person actually might refuse and it should not be expected.. if you want an arrangement with someone, you can also discuss it with her. Many SP will accept a reasonable arrangement. Some won't, not because they're cruel bitches who hate their clients, but because they don't have the time for it.

No I give many gifts to an sp not receive

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Then I was wondering if a client books a SP very often, what reaction will it trigger?

From few answers I see it seems it would be quite welcome. But is the contrary possible? Like he books too much and you kind of don't want to see him? I guess it will be on the basis you don't like him that much lol

I would be really pleased if my clients booked me very often. I'm always happy to have regular clients and to develop a connection with the same people. I love meeting new clients, but it's easier when the ice is broken.. If a client is respectful and we have good conversation, there's no reason why I would feel like he's booking me too much! I'm always looking for regular clients.

The only thing that would bother me is if the client developed unrealistic expectations and became too demanding.. As you see in this thread, it's expected by certain clients that when they are regulars we should be offering something extra.. This bothers me tbh even if I understand.. not because I'm cold hearted and don't think my clients deserve it. I just feel uneasy if I know there are unspoken expectations, particularly if I have a feeling it could go too far.. I want to give an example but I don't want to write about this here.

 

[Enjoying life]

I would be really pleased if my clients booked me very often. I'm always happy to have regular clients and to develop a connection with the same people. I love meeting new clients, but it's easier when the ice is broken.. If a client is respectful and we have good conversation, there's no reason why I would feel like he's booking me too much! I'm always looking for regular clients.

The only thing that would bother me is if the client developed unrealistic expectations and became too demanding.. As you see in this thread, it's expected by certain clients that when they are regulars we should be offering something extra.. This bothers me tbh.. not because I'm cold hearted and don't think my clients deserve it. I just feel uneasy if I know there are unspoken expectations, particularly if I have a feeling it could go far.. I want to give an example but I don't want to write about this here.

An sp that I see even does photos unlimited for a 100 it’s well worth it and really cool see yourself engaging with her just we keep masks on!

 

[LeDodo]

I would be really pleased if my clients booked me very often. I'm always happy to have regular clients and to develop a connection with the same people. I love meeting new clients, but it's easier when the ice is broken.. If a client is respectful and we have good conversation, there's no reason why I would feel like he's booking me too much! I'm always looking for regular clients.

Fair explanation and reassuring

The only thing that would bother me is if the client developed unrealistic expectations and became too demanding.. As you see in this thread, it's expected by certain clients that when they are regulars we should be offering something extra.. This bothers me tbh.. not because I'm cold hearted and don't think my clients deserve it. I just feel uneasy if I know there are unspoken expectations, particularly if I have a feeling it could go far.. I want to give an example but I don't want to write about this here.

I think the usual disconnect is indeed in the unspoken expectations. It's easy to say that but clear, transparent and honest communication can solve everything.

 

[Enjoying life]

I don't understand this sentence

We take photos of us in action with fetish play to spice things up then I can edit it

 

[Lunaseraphim]

We take photos of us in action with fetish play to spice things up then I can edit it

Good for you..

 

[Enjoying life]

Good for you..

Fun

 

[mtremblay]

I'm reading the last page and the thing with being generous is that it become the expected behavior. It's already hard with family and friends to be generous once because of specifics circumstances without future expectation. I can't imagine dealing with giving something extra in a service oriented context.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

I'm reading the last page and the thing with being generous is that it become the expected behavior. It's already hard with family and friends to be generous once because of specifics circumstances without future expectation. I can't imagine dealing with giving something extra in a service oriented context.

I had written a comment along those lines but I deleted it.. I'm a generous person by nature, in my personal life and as a SP, but I've realized that while some are appreciative, some people take advantage of it or start expecting it.

I have to take responsibility for my own actions too.. I can't really blame a client I've given a bunch of extra time for free to start expecting it, specially if he really enjoys seeing me. It can become hard setting that boundary without fearing losing the client.. I don't think I'm alone in this. Other SP, both indies and agency girls, have confided in me that they felt the same.

This doesn't mean clients should refuse a SP's generosity. I'm glad when I can make someone feel special I just want it to be understood that this may not always be possible....

 

[Enjoying life]

Fun

Thanks Luna!

 

[Enjoying life]

I had written a comment along those lines but I deleted it.. I'm a generous person by nature, in my personal life and as a SP, but I've realized that while some are appreciative, some people take advantage of it or start expecting it.

I have to take responsibility for my own actions too.. I can't really blame a client I've given a bunch of extra time for free to start expecting it, specially if he really enjoys seeing me. It can become hard setting that boundary without fearing losing the client.. I don't think I'm alone in this. Other SP, both indies and agency girls, have confided in me that they felt the same.

This doesn't mean clients should refuse a SP's generosity. I'm glad when I can make someone feel special I just want it to be understood that this may not always be possible....

The sp wants to make sure you are happy with responding to your requests in a timely manner and if it goes over an hour cool if not no big deal!

 

[mtremblay]

Pour les cadeaux, si c'est pour tenter d'obtenir quelque chose d'extra un jour. À la place, il est mieux de mettre l'argent (destiné aux cadeaux) de côté in a piggy bank et lorsqu'il y en a assez, de payer un 30-60 min. de plus. Une des raisons que je prends goût à rencontrer des professionnelles, c'est que je n'ai pas à me soucier de ce genre de game. J'apporte argent et respect (étiquette, hygiene, consentement, savoir vivre, limites, etc.) en échange des services offerts. C'est simple et aussi éphémère que soient ces rencontres, ça m'apporte une plénitude qui me comble.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Pour les cadeaux, si c'est pour tenter d'obtenir quelque chose d'extra un jour. À la place, il est mieux de mettre l'argent (destiné aux cadeaux) de côté in a piggy bank et lorsqu'il y en a assez, de payer un 30-60 min. de plus. Une des raisons que je prends goût à rencontrer des professionnelles, c'est que je n'ai pas à me soucier de ce genre de game. J'apporte argent et respect (étiquette, hygiene, consentement, savoir vivre, limites, etc.) en échange des services offerts. C'est simple et aussi éphémère que soient ces rencontres, ça m'apporte une plénitude qui me comble.

Juste pour clarifier, je ne pense pas que les clients qui offrent des cadeaux ont une idée de ce genre derrière la tête en général. Mais si c'est le cas, je suis d'accord avec ce que tu dis. C'est clair que si un client est très généreux (book des rdv de 2 à 4 heures très souvent, comme la question initiale le demandait, etc) c'est un peu normal d'offrir quelque chose en extra selon moi. Le respect que tu mentionne est très important par contre.. Il y a des limites que j'ai qui ne peuvent pas être achetées. Sur ce, bonne nuit à tous. Je ne pense pas répondre à une autre question avant un bout de temps car je veux conserver mon énergie pour mes clients et ma vie personnelle.

 

[LC18]

I'm reading the last page and the thing with being generous is that it become the expected behavior. It's already hard with family and friends to be generous once because of specifics circumstances without future expectation. I can't imagine dealing with giving something extra in a service oriented context.

Same with us with clients. If I extend once for free because I’m in a good mood, is the client going to expect me to do it everytime?