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You have obviously never been to the San Gennaro Festival.
AS an attorney, you should have better reading skills, Beav. Note that I did not say it. Curtis Granderson did. I actually don't agree with him, but it's going to be fun watching Yankee fans have fits over this quote. Look at how poor Iggy went into ballistic mode.
 

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Great quote. "A lot of people have told me that real New Yorkers are Mets fans." - Curtis Granderson.
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It has nothing to do with my reading skills, since you said it was a great quote, and you did not say you didn't agree with it. What it is is a stupid quote from a player who just signed a large contract looking to kiss some ass with his new team's front office and fanbase.
 

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It has nothing to do with my reading skills, since you said it was a great quote, and you did not say you didn't agree with it. What it is is a stupid quote from a player who just signed a large contract looking to kiss some ass with his new team's front office and fanbase.
Excuse me, but you suggested that I had never been to the San Gennaro Festival. Why because I quoted Granderson? Either one of two things, then, is the case. Either your reading skills are off or your reasoning skills are deficient. How else could you possibly make this connection.
 

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Your definition of ballistic sure is different than mine. I went into full out ROFLMAO mode at thinking what you posted would ever get Yankees fans upset (which is why you posted it, wink wink) .... We have the better CF, why would we care what Grandy says? He is obviously pissed he was "let go" by the greatest franchise in the game, i would be as well as would anyone with half a brain. You dont see Jacoby Ellsbury pissed at being "let go" by that little franchise from "new england" now do you? There is a reason for that, he is now a YANKEE.
Look at how poor Iggy went into ballistic mode.
 

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My two cents....

When i read the comment, i saw it as a somewhat sarcastic/bitter comment aimed towards the Yankees for letting him go.

Anyone with a brain inside his head knows fully well that he wasn't being serious since when you think of 'New York', you think 'Yankees', never 'Mets'. It's like comparing Dom Dimaggio to his older brother Joe, who was a legendary player with the Yankees, while Domenic never was much of a baseball player.
 

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AS an attorney, you should have better reading skills, Beav. Note that I did not say it. Curtis Granderson did. I actually don't agree with him, but it's going to be fun watching Yankee fans have fits over this quote. Look at how poor Iggy went into ballistic mode.

But you do agree with him, why else would you say it was a "GREAT QUOTE". :rolleyes:

Ellsbury has a better year than Granderson and which ever corpse the Red Sox put out to replace him with(My predictions).
 

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We have had some good years over in Queens

Might not have the legacy of the Yankees, but we are proud Met fans :thumb:

Trumbo leaves Anaheim for Arizona..


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It's like comparing Dom Dimaggio to his older brother Joe, who was a legendary player with the Yankees, while Domenic never was much of a baseball player.

You mean Dom had a brother?

Come on Doc: next you'll be trying to convince us that Brent Gretzky and Gilbert Dionne had brothers!
 

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You dont see Jacoby Ellsbury pissed at being "let go" by that little franchise from "new england" now do you? There is a reason for that, he is now a YANKEE.

Actually, there's 153M reasons!! Didn't matter if it was Yankees or the Astros that made the offer. He's all about the money and who can blame him since he's already got 2 WS rings and knows he won't get another anytime soon.
 

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Actually, there's 153M reasons!! Didn't matter if it was Yankees or the Astros that made the offer. He's all about the money and who can blame him since he's already got 2 WS rings and knows he won't get another anytime soon.
Easy K, let these poor guys rant and rave all they want. Maybe it will ease the pain of knowing that they're in for a least two more years of serious suckitude. Now they're saying they're going to hang on to Gardner and try to trade Ichiro. Good luck with that.

As for Jacoby "Take the Money and Run" Ellsbury, it's just as PeteAbe said the other day, "The Sox will get 75% the production from Jackie Bradley for 2% the money." And by 2017, Bradley will be a better player, still making 10% of what the aging Ellsbury will get.

Every time I read about a possible Yankee trade, the bottom line is the same, "The Yankees don't have enough trade bait to get him." It's a sad situation to see such a storied franchise so down-and-out. Here are a couple of examples from Lohud:

Speaking of potential trade targets, the Red general manager says he has no plans of trading Homer Bailey. Getting him was always going to cost much, much more than just Brett Gardner anyway. That notion has floated around for a few days — Gardner for Bailey — but while it seems like the start of a decent match, it’s hard to trade for a young starting pitcher like that, especially one who’s been successful the past few years.

Jon Morosi reports the Indians are willing to listen to offers for Asdrubal Cabrera. I can’t imagine the Yankees have enough to get him, but he would certainly be a nice fit.
 

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Well, the winter meetings are 2/3 over and the pitching poor Yankees have done nothing to plug the holes in their pitching staff and on the left side of their infield.

And one wonders if their offense is better. They've lost probably 65 HR between Granderson and Cano, while adding 63 Ellsbury (11), Beltran (30), and McCann (22), pretty much a wash as Joe Maddon pointed out yesterday.

They're right near the magic $189 number and have nothing to trade. While the Yankees long term plan was to be more frugal and build the kind of player development system that has the Red Sox loaded for the future, they've also given up their first three draft picks in 2014, not exactly how a mediocre team builds for the future.
 

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Just a few hours left in the winter meetings, and the pitching starved Yankees have yet to make a single move to improve their desperate situation. Here's an article from Chad Jennings at Lohud on the predicament in which Brian Cashdollar finds himself.

Yankees need pitching (and it’s a bad time to need pitching)

There’s no need for anonymous sources or particularly difficult analysis to know this isn’t a particularly good pitching market. Just look at the deals that have been signed already, and look at the players who are still out there, and look at what Yankees general manager Brian Cashman said just this weekend.

“It was never a good market going into it.”

That market has grown even worse — or potentially worse — with all of the uncertainty surrounding Masahiro Tanaka, and prices have been set sky high with deals for Jason Vargas, Ricky Nolasco and Phil Hughes. It’s not a great time to be in the market for a 200-inning starter, and the Yankees are looking for exactly that type of player.

Today brought an early rumor of interest in Justin Masterson, but that rumor seemed unlikely pretty quickly (hard to pull off with the Indians trying to contend and the Yankees low on trade chips). We all know Cashman will at least kick the tires on every remote free agent possibility, but the free agent market is developing slowly for a reason: Prices are high and talent is suspect. Andrew Marchand reported this morning that the Yankees are one of several teams showing interest in Johan Santana, but that’s more likely as a non-roster tryout candidate, not as an answer to the Yankees current needs.

Getting Hiroki Kuroda back has helped, but even now the Yankees are looking at a top three of CC Sabathia, Ivan Nova and Kuroda. They also have Michael Pineda, David Phelps, Adam Warren and Vidal Nuno to compete for at least one spot and provide depth. But the Yankees would still like to supplement. They’ve been aggressive in a position-player market that had several players who fit their needs (might have been awfully expensive, but at least Brian McCann, Jacoby Ellsbury and Carlos Beltran should provide some necessary offense). Finding pitching is going to be the tricky part.

“I feel good about the top three that we have,” Joe Girardi said. “But I think our club will look to see how we can improve. It doesn’t mean there is a deal out there to be had, but I think Brian and his staff will continue to look to improve and we’ll just see. We’ll see how some of these young kids emerge. You had Phelps who pitched pretty well last year. We felt Warren took some big steps. Pineda (is in the mix), and you got Nuno, and some guys that are going to compete. But I think we’ll look to see what we can have.”


"Phelps pitched pretty well last year." I love that quote from Girardi. In his world, a 4.98 ERA is pitching pretty well.
 

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With the Winter Meetings in full force one of the new rules implemented is the no more home plate collisions hopefully going into effect 2014.

[h=1]MLB votes to eliminate home-plate collisions[/h]
LAKE BUENA VISTA, Fla. -- A busy day of meetings that will result in significant differences in the way baseball games will be governed on the field was capped off Wednesday with an announcement that the Playing Rules Committee has voted overwhelmingly to outlaw home-plate collisions between runners and catchers.

That followed a morning meeting at which managers and general managers were briefed on the proposal for expanded instant replay, which could end up looking much different from what was being discussed just weeks ago at the last Owners Meetings.
The decision to eliminate collisions didn't become a serious topic of conversation until last month at the General Managers Meetings, but the idea quickly caught fire. Managers Mike Matheny of the Cardinals and Bruce Bochy of the Giants, both former catchers, led the push. Both spoke on the subject and others in attendance were asked for their input before the measure was passed.
The exact language of the new rule has not been written. The final draft will be approved by the Rules Committee and then submitted for a vote at the next quarterly Owners Meetings in January. Finally, it must be approved by the Major League Baseball Players Association. Mets general manager Sandy Alderson, chairman of the committee, is confident all that can be accomplished before the 2014 season opens.
The primary consideration is player safety.
"This is, I think, in answer to a few issues that have arisen," Alderson said on the last full day of the annual Winter Meetings. "One is just the general occurrence of injuries from these incidents that affected players, both runners and catchers. And also kind of the general concern about concussions that exists not only in baseball but throughout professional sports and amateur sports today. It's an emerging issue, and one that we in baseball have to address as well as other sports. So that's part of the impetus for this rule change as well."
Alderson admitted that drafting language that will be practical and effective won't be a simple task.
"There are college and high school rules currently that address this issue," Alderson said. "It has to do with a number of different things: Positioning, intent, a variety of things that we are going to look at. Umpires will have some discretion, but at the same time, umpires have other things to do, deciding whether the run scores or doesn't score.
"So it's a little more complicated than it would appear," he said. "But I think ultimately what we want to do is change the culture of acceptance that these plays are ordinary and routine and an accepted part of the game, that the risks and individual risks, the costs associated in terms of health and injury just no longer warrant the status quo.
"So the actual detail, frankly the kinds of plays that we're trying to eliminate, we haven't finally determined. But what I would expect is to put together 100 of these plays and identify which ones we want to continue to allow and others that we want to prohibit and draft a rule accordingly."
Enforcement will be two-fold. A runner who is deemed to have intentionally run over the catcher may be called out, for example, even if he touches the plate without being tagged. There can also be further penalties in terms of fines and ejections.
The owners are also expected to vote on expanded replay, including a manager challenge system, in January after approving funding for the program in November. But after the briefing, several managers indicated that what they were told was far different from what was being discussed at the GM Meetings.
"It's changing every day," one manager said.
MLB executive vice president for baseball operations Joe Torre, however, downplayed that angle.
"The fact of the matter is we still have [to receive approval from the MLBPA and umpires union], so there is really nothing that is in stone at this point in time," Torre said. "But I thought it was a good opportunity to give the managers a little head's up, and especially the fact that the next time we see them it will be Spring Training, just give them something to think about, and to let them call us with any questions or suggestions.
"So it certainly wasn't a meeting where we said, 'This is the way it's going to be,' Torre said. "It was basically, 'This is where we are right now,' and I really don't want to go into it only because it may not be the same thing we start the season with. We have a pretty good idea of where we want to be, but, again, we still have to wait for the unions to sign off."
As recently as last month, Torre was talking about ways to keep managers from stalling to allow a coach or press box employee to look at replays and give a signal whether or not he should appeal. Multiple managers were under the impression Wednesday, however, that not only would they be allowed to get electronic help, but that they had been told it would be available within 10 seconds and that each ballpark would have equal access to a monitor from either dugout.
Asked specifically about that point, Torre didn't deny it, but added: "It's just that we've talked about a lot of stuff. The one thing in this process that our goal is to make everything uniform for all the teams. So you have a road team and a home team, we are making sure that that home team is not going to have an advantage over the road team. ... We plan on having the technology standardized for everybody."
The managers were also under the impression that they would be given just one challenge per game, but would get another if their first was upheld.
"Umpires are my responsibility," Torre said. "I'd like to see no challenges through the course of the ballgame. We have to be realistic, but the fewer, the better. Right now, I think our take on it is we've missed like one call every 5.7 or 5.8 games. The fact is that there is nothing insignificant about any play that happens during the course of a game, because it can turn into something big.
"We just sort of planted some seeds today on some of our thinking, on how we're thinking," Torre said. "As far as how many challenges, you know, the fewer the better for me. Because it is probably easier to increase later as opposed to pulling back, because the game would suffer if I think we've had too many of those."
One thing that remains unchanged is that the replays will be viewed and a decision made at MLB Advanced Media headquarters in New York.
From the beginning, Torre has been mindful of how all of this will impact the pace of play.
"The game is the most important thing," Torre said. "I know we have technology. We can't ignore it. But we certainly don't want to affect the rhythm of the game. Our sport is a little different than other sports. We don't have the built-in timeouts that other sports have where they can do stuff. And we're trying to make sense of what we can do without interfering, and what is important for us."
Torre remains confident that expanded replay, which was tested in the Arizona Fall League, can be implemented in time for the upcoming season despite the numbers of wrinkles that still need to be ironed out.
"I think it can come together very quickly," Torre said. "We're certainly not going to force something if we're not ready to do it the right way. We're pretty confident we can do it with the six or seven weeks of Spring Training, and that will be our practice ground both in Florida and Arizona. I think we'll be in pretty good shape by that time. But they're just loose ends not tied up. It's not like we're all over the place."
 

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Embedded in this link to an ESPN article on this story is a podcast interview of Pete Rose by Michael Kay on the new rule banning home plate collisions. Rose is extremely critical of the new rule and brings up some interesting arguments:

http://espn.go.com/mlb/hotstove13/story/_/id/10121849/mlb-intends-ban-home-plate-collisions-2015

I think that Rose is correct that all the rule is going to do is create a lot of arguments while not really cutting down on that many injuries.
 

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Who will win the David Price sweepstakes?, it's almost a given that he will be dealt but to which team, Seattle is being mentioned a lot but the team that gets mentioned a lot almost never wins, a lot of the times it's a surprise team that nobody mentions or sees coming who eventually ends up winning, having said that I say it will be either the Blue Jays or the Yankees, stay tuned.
 

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Who will win the David Price sweepstakes?, it's almost a given that he will be dealt but to which team, Seattle is being mentioned a lot but the team that gets mentioned a lot almost never wins, a lot of the times it's a surprise team that nobody mentions or sees coming who eventually ends up winning, having said that I say it will be either the Blue Jays or the Yankees, stay tuned.
 

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...having said that I say it will be either the Blue Jays or the Yankees, stay tuned.
A couple of problems, Joe.
1. The Yankees could offer their entire barren farm system for Price and it wouldn't be enough.
2. The possibility of him being dealt to the Jays exists, but it's very remote. For the Rays to trade him in the division, the Jays would have to offer up a package that absolutely blows any other offer away. Considering what they sent to Miami in the failed Johnson, Reyes, Buehrle deal, they might not have enough left in the system to even make a credible offer.
 

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Hello Gentlemen,

I ask you, are there really any worse fans in all of sports?

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-bi...3532--mlb.html

This is the perfect evidence proving everything I wrote recently about how Robinson Cano's signing with Seattle for $240 Million has destroyed the Yankees fans grand delusion that everyone loves to play for the Yankees simply because they are the Yankees. The great heir apparent to Jeter as the crowned iconic god-like idol of pinstriped adoration gave the Evil Empire the big FINGER!!! What hurts most is he did it for money while throwing all of that never-ending worshiping love right back in the faces of the team and especially the fans. Reality has been crushing on the Yankees fans and they are bursting with venom and hate over it.

It could only have been worse if Cano had gone to the Red Sox for less than the Yankees offered. But that was never going to happen because as New York fans now know by the searing pain of their spurned love...it's about the MONEY, it never was the love of being a Yankee unless that love was priced higher than that of any other team.

And how much does it hurt???

1. TJ Reichel @tjreichs
@RobinsonCano u used to be my idol now I couldn't care less if u had career ending tommy john surgery
1:36 PM - 12 Dec 2013

2. Anthony Scotti @anthony_scotti
@RobinsonCano no one likes you ! You aren't welcome in this city go kill yourself
12:46 PM - 12 Dec 2013

3. mickey stec @picklethemickle
@RobinsonCano do you want the autographed ball I have back You can sell it and keep the money since that's all you care about
1:50 PM - 12 Dec 2013

4. Antonio @atreatable
@RobinsonCano You're my favorite player, but I hope you get Lou Gehrig's disease.
12:47 PM - 12 Dec 2013

5. Patrick Godfrey @Godfrey_7
@RobinsonCano @Mariners i hope both your acl's explode and your career is over you traitor
3:07 PM - 12 Dec 2013

6. skinnywhiteguy @chez914
@RobinsonCano @Mariners TRADER!! U will never see another October .. Ya u will be rich but no more rings .. Fade away into oblivion
3:05 PM - 12 Dec 2013

7. Reggie Dunlop @johnnydonutzzz
@RobinsonCano I wish you played for the game and not a paycheck… #justsaying
1:14 PM - 12 Dec 2013


It...was...always...about ...the MONEY...Mr. Dunlop. Cano is no Pedroia. :crazy:

Wow, wishing Lou Gehrig's Disease on another Yankee after the tragedy that ravaged one of their 5 most famed players ever. That's pretty despicable. Rumps, this is what happens when NY fans are forced to wake out of their mass delusionalism. I can't wait until the Mariners visit the House that Ruth Didn't Build. :nod:

Iggy must have written number 6 with spelling like that. No one tell him what the mistake is, he wouldn't believe it anyway...if he could ever find it. Nice attempt to hide your identity..."skinny". :D



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