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They were talking about Jeter on mlb network this afternoon and where "Cap'n Clutch" is on the list of all time Yankee greats. An average fan would put him in the top 10, but everyone agreed he was top 5. Al Leiter went so far to say Jeter would be #4 on his list with only Ruth (1) Mantle (2) as locks at the top 2. He said one of Dimaggio or Gehrig gets bumped to #5 while Jeter slides in at #4 on the All Time Yankee Greats list. Personally i would put him at #5. Btw, Mo makes the top 10 easily as well.

As a top 5 Yankee of ALL TIME, (that says it all right there folks) i'd say this farewell tour is much, much, MUCH deserved, especially for a first ballot hall of famer.

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I really don't think this is about a farewell tour at all. Jeter kept getting hurt last year as he recovered from ankle surgery after breaking his ankle in game 1 of the ALCS in 2012. I think he got hurt a couple times during his rehab and never could get healthy and stay on the field. In one sense it is not surprising given his age, but until last year he was a very durable player over his career, and he was coming back from a very serious ankle surgery. He is now healed and has the chance to start the season healthy and put in one final season and not go out on a sour note. Last year he only managed 63 at bats the whole season, one of many Yankees who were out most of the season. I think we can expect him to play regularly and perhaps hit .280 or so which with his leadership will help the team.
 
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This bullshit, farewell visit, dick sucking, gift giving "retirement" tour is typical Yankee horseshit.
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Hmmm,

As a lifelong Yankee and one of their top 10 ever I have no problem with a farewell tour, except, it's too late to have a respectable go out on top tour like mighty Mo. Jeter is going to get hurt and that's on top of being a downgrade version of himself. Mo went out as a championship caliber pitcher even if the team bombed. The chances Jeter will go out as an injured shell of his legend are very high. It's too bad he won't be able to repeat 2012. That would have been a last tour year to remember. Now the fans will have to kiss his ass with memories of his past instead of digging for old signs of his glorious ghost in his deteriorating present. Look for the phrase..."Jeter in his glory days was" 10,000 times...instead of Jeter is every time they try to measure him for that statue at Yankee Stadium.

Bye ole Jetes,

Merlot
 
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Actually your history is not very good. Jeter led the AL in hits (216) and ABs (683) and batted .316 in 2012, the last full season he played which was the season before last. He did not play last year because he broke his ankle in game 1 of the 2012 ALCS against the Tigers, had surgery, and was not recovered from the surgery early last season based on tests they did on him after he kept getting hurt. He is less than 2 years removed from leading the AL in hits and ABs.
 
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Merlot said:
Hmmm,

As a lifelong Yankee and one of their top 10 ever I have no problem with a farewell tour, except, it's too late to have a respectable go out on top tour like mighty Mo. Jeter is going to get hurt and that's on top of being a downgrade version of himself. Mo went out as a championship caliber pitcher even if the team bombed. The chances Jeter will go out as an injured shell of his legend are very high. It's too bad he won't be able to repeat 2012. That would have been a last tour year to remember. Now the fans will have to kiss his ass with memories of his past instead of digging for old signs of his glorious ghost in his deteriorating present. Look for the phrase..."Jeter in his glory days was" 10,000 times...instead of Jeter is every time they try to measure him for that statue at Yankee Stadium.

Bye ole Jetes,

Merlot
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Damn, Merlot, your post sounds like ol' Rumps wrote it. It's his same old broken record. You can't even allow Jeter, who is a Hall of Famer on the first ballot, one simple year to retire. Do you have so much venom in you against NY that you can't allow a future HOF one year to retire. And Jeter's last full year was a good year. At least he's announcing his retirement at the beginning of the year. That's class, something you and your buddy rumps, if he was here, can not recognize.
 
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Damn, Merlot, your post sounds like ol' Rumps wrote it. It's his same old broken record. You can't even allow Jeter, who is a Hall of Famer on the first ballot, one simple year to retire. Do you have so much venom in you against NY that you can't allow a future HOF one year to retire. And Jeter's last full year was a good year. At least he's announcing his retirement at the beginning of the year. That's class, something you and your buddy rumps, if he was here, can not recognize.
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Damn, DD

Did you ever expect to be considered correct if you voiced another view of something that is " out of the box " ??? :lol:

Me, I love baseball..all teams..

I love the game

I love the quiet also lately on this thread :thumb:

Derek Jeter is a class act, great teammate, true Yankee, thru and thru
I would have loved to have him in Queens

Any baseball fan would have killed to have them on THEIR team

I hope he has a wonderful season, and I hope my Mets pull one out of their ass and recreate 1969 ...

Best Regards

Smuler
 
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smuler said:
Derek Jeter is a class act, great teammate, true Yankee, thru and thru
I would have loved to have him in Queens
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You would especially have loved to have him in Queens for the 2000 World Series when Jeter raked the Mets pitching. However I wish those days of Subway Series come back. That was the best time in my lifetime to watch baseball in New York City. At all other times it seemed like one team or the other was a little bit better. Late 1970s early 1980s Yankees then Mets then it went back to the Yankees until late 1990s early 2000s when both teams were very good and since then it has been mostly Yankees.

I would like to see the Mets compete for the NL championship and the Yankees for the AL crown. I just feel that the Wilpons have been fleeced by Madoff and Sandy Alderson, a very competent GM, does not have the financial backing he needs. New owners need to buy that team, maybe Jay Z and his group? Although I don't think Jay Z could ever give up the Yankees cap he wears, and he would have to on such a deal.
 
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Damn, DD

Did you ever expect to be considered correct if you voiced another view of something that is " out of the box " ??? :lol:
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His view of "class" got him banned twice in two months for flaming others, once banned for very bad behavior in the recent poll, from which he was disqualified because of his flaming behavior. He'll never learn...just watch.

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Derek Jeter is a class act, great teammate, true Yankee, thru and thru
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The comment above is actually too limited.

I read one of the links posted by EB where Jeter said he's coming back this year because he wants to be remembered as a great Yankee. I mean, with his sensational record coming back or not will change nothing. It's indisputable that Jeter is one of the classiest and greatest players baseball ever had. As a Red Sox fan I still would not say anything less, nor should anyone who loves the game. Still, with his type of injury everything I said is more than 50% likely to come true. It's not disrespectful. I give him all the due he's earned by his many years of great deeds. But Yankees fans will have to accept that 2012 was very likely the last time they will see the old Jeter over a season. Enjoy any flashes of the glory days you can get, but he's retiring because he knows he's NOT the same old glory days Jeter.

Jeter wanting to go out in a grand blaze like Rivera changes nothing about the reality of his age and injury vulnerability. Rivera didn't have previous injury issues like Jeter. He could try to hold back to make it through the season laying back a bit, and still it's unlikely he'll stay healthy. Then again, holding back wouldn't be Jeter, and I'm sure he'd be ashamed to go out giving less than the best he's got, just like any time in his great career. Few, like Mo Rivera and Ted Williams get to go out with All-Star farewells.

BTW EB, it's not the Sox charging extra for Yankees tickets, it's entirely the secondary market.

Cheers,

Merlot...of the current WORLD CHAMPION RED SOX NATION. :D
 
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BOYZ,



His view of "class" got him banned twice in two months for flaming others, once banned for very bad behavior in the recent poll, from which he was disqualified because of his flaming behavior. He'll never learn...just watch.



The comment above is actually too limited.

I read one of the links posted by EB where Jeter said he's coming back this year because he wants to be remembered as a great Yankee. I mean, with his sensational record coming back or not will change nothing. It's indisputable that Jeter is one of the classiest and greatest players baseball ever had. As a Red Sox fan I still would not say anything less, nor should anyone who loves the game. Still, with his type of injury everything I said is more than 50% likely to come true. It's not disrespectful. I give him all the due he's earned by his many years of great deeds. But Yankees fans will have to accept that 2012 was very likely the last time they will see the old Jeter over a season. Enjoy any flashes of the glory days you can get, but he's retiring because he knows he's NOT the same old glory days Jeter.

Jeter wanting to go out in a grand blaze like Rivera changes nothing about the reality of his age and injury vulnerability. Rivera didn't have previous injury issues like Jeter. He could try to hold back to make it through the season laying back a bit, and still it's unlikely he'll stay healthy. Then again, holding back wouldn't be Jeter, and I'm sure he'd be ashamed to go out giving less than the best he's got, just like any time in his great career. Few, like Mo Rivera and Ted Williams get to go out with All-Star farewells.

BTW EB, it's not the Sox charging extra for Yankees tickets, it's entirely the secondary market.

Cheers,

Merlot...of the current WORLD CHAMPION RED SOX NATION. :D
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Exceptionnally well said by both smuler & merlot, its a very rare and hallowed thing to have an athlete that not only excels at this sport but garners the respect of rival fans and players no matter what. Is there a better perennial example of what class, dedication, leadership and the right way to go about your business in any sport then what Jeter did over his career (maybe Roy Halladay taking the 1day contract to retire a Jay but wtv).

I'm extremely saddened to see the last of the yankee core 4 leave and I was lucky to have been able to see them all play together.
 
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McCann said that he thought Tanaka was "absolutely as good as advertised."

"I thought he was great," McCann said. "He worked all his pitches in there. His fastball command was there. His offspeed, I thought was great. His split has some great action on it. His cutter, his slider --- he was sharp."

That meshed with what Romine said he saw from the box.

"Tracking it in, I didn't know what it was until it was halfway in," Romine said. "You're going to see a lot of guys swinging and looking like fools on that pitch. I can already tell off of that.

"And his fastball was a good angle, down and away. Locking me up on fastballs away -- just the overall angle and consistency with all those pitches -- it's going to be something special."
 
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Yankees' Gardner agrees to $52 million deal

The New York Yankees and Brett Gardner have agreed to a four-year contract worth $52 million.

Brett Gardner had 24 stolen bases last season, his sixth with the Yankees.

The deal, which was announced Sunday, starts in 2015 and includes a $12.5 million option for 2019 with a $2 million buyout

Gardner, 30, would have been eligible for free agency after this season. The outfielder batted .277 with eight home runs, 52 RBIs and 24 stolen bases last season, his sixth with the Yankees.

One of the majors' top defensive outfielders, Gardner will shift to left field this season due to the acquisition of free agent center fielder Jacoby Ellsbury.

Gardner is the latest player to receive a lucrative contract from the Yankees, who landed Ellsbury, Masahiro Tanaka, Brian McCann and Carlos Beltran with massive deals this offseason.
 
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