Being a masseuse: easy money?

[Fradi]

You need to live in the other persons shoes to know what a job is like.
I don’t believe there are many jobs in this world that are easy, no one throws money at you without you having to earn it.
I honestly don’t know how these ladies are able to do this kind of work given all the dangers being able to overlook age body shape etc.... , obviously $$$ is the prime driver in this.
I would agree with Rose in just about all she says except maybe when it comes to them “loving their job” with all the things she describes it is very hard to imagine love of the job being part of it.
Never the less I am very grateful to the ladies I have met, they have all been exceptionally kind to me and I have enjoyed being with them and if you are extremely lucky you may meet one that becomes very special to you.

 

[rosedelacourt]

Fradi, I didn't say SWers loved their jobs, because I know a lot of us don't. I said I LOVE my job. Me. You don't have to agree nor believe me. I carry no shame around my job and live quite out in the open, my family and friends are accepting of me, I have financial independence and I carefully choose my clients to ensure I have the best odds in having a good time. Most of my clientele are long-time regulars and I care for them and love them. This is exactly what I want for myself. For me, the good outweighs the bad. But not for everybody and that is 100% fine as well.

 

[chowzilla]

work is work, by all means make yo paper boo boo
enjoying your job, helps you be tolerant and helps with career longevity. Again not everyone aims for this.

I guess what guys are saying by "easy", is the fact you don't really need training prior to getting into this, you can just jump right in, and cash out and gtfo.

there is no such thing as hard or easy work, its all about the time it takes you to get to your goal. I'm sure gals like Rose, put in her time to get where she is at, and that must've been tough road.

an easy job is a guy who has no ambition and works at a tole booth doing nothing.

 

[Fradi]

Rose,

I am happy for you if you love your job.
That is very rare in this world and not just for sex workers, I was lucky I also loved my work.
I can understand that you care for your clients and not disputing it in the least as I am in a similar situation with someone that I absolutely adore and who has been the kindest person I could have hoped for from the first time I met her.
I was not doubting your words just saying that while it is definitely not “easy money” it is mostly about the money otherwise ladies would not be in it. I don’t see too much fun for a young lady massaging and jerking off a bunch of middle aged men no matter what type of coloured glasses I would like to look at it through.

 

[rosedelacourt]

Of course it's about the money lol it's a job. Would you work for free? Probably not.

 

[Flyingby]

I would qualify this work as quick money. You can work a lot and stash quite a bit of cash. Not easy money

 

[sene5hos]

Quick money:
Days yes, days no.
We always talk about masseuses?

 

[RVK7]

In our societies, sex work more than any other is a matter of morality, and men want women to behave as expected of them. Nothing new under the sun. The pattern is well known. That’s what I see when I read that being a masseuse means making easy money because it requires almost no qualifications, that they work little to earn a lot quickly, that is not so tough cause they continue to do it because the money is fast and good, and son on.

When I see all this obstinacy that evacuates and undervalues, as if it almost doesn’t exist, the price of the stigma that weighs on all sex workers and ignores all the effects, both in the short and long term, it's precisely this pattern of thinking that is at work. In doing so, sex workers are seen as commodities, each of which is perfectly replaceable and obviously too expensive.

This stubborn idea of easy money suggests that not only are they too much paid for what they do, but also, and perhaps even more so, for what they are. Not only do we want these women to give us what is expected of them, but we want them to give it to us on our terms and accept it without saying anything. Before, during and even after, as we can see in this thread.

We want them to give the best deepthroat blowjobs, we want them to moan like hyenas, we want them to open their legs and praise our skills as incredible DATY lovers, we want them to love what they do to the max and to ask for more, no matter who the guy is... if they want to reach in our eyes the Nirvana of the best escort in town. In short, we want them to reflect our own idealized image.

At a good price of course, since this way we can give them a tip that makes us look generous and grateful. Cloud500 is absolutely right: that's living in a delusional world. I totally agree with him and Rosedelacourt. Who are we really to say it for them? Especially if you haven't received three greeks in a row from three different stallions, begging you to add an A2M with their horse breath, even if it's clearly stated that it's not on the menu.

Think about that, Guys, when Rosedelacourt asks: ''I wonder what it's so important to some of you to call our job 'easy' ''. Stop trying to be right at all costs with the fucking numbers for a moment. She only invites you to think out of the the box and see that the world gravitates far beyond your own dick and your own certainties, "given, she points out, a lot of our written feedback isn't often appreciated or taken into consideration."

And finally don’t forget: hobby is like drugs. One hopes every time the next fix will be better than the last. But no matter how much you shoot, no matter how much you are willing to pay, fiction will never be like reality. Never! That's why, at the end of the day, we are always left with the disappointment of paying too much for what it's worth. We must be careful not to project unconsciously the price of this disappointment onto others.

 

[sexslave]

Why do you keep on saying it is easy money? You live in a delusional world. I explained and many others did to you but you seem to be clueless especially since you are not even working as a SW. You speak from a client's perspective. What could you possibly know? Another moron said how these girls make so much money like 3k a week. I dunno where he got that figure from. Lol Just because it does not require a university degree does not mean it is easy. Try one day working in their shoes see what it is like. Miners also do not need any education but they are paid very highly due to the work being very dangerous, physically demanding, and prolonged periods of social isolation (working very far way in the boonies). Open your eyes and smell the coffee. The only thing is this is fast money. You get paid daily and all in cash. No need for a school degree or to pass through multiple interviews, background checks, and credit checks. One last thing there is an abundance of SP and masseuses due to wealth inequality. I am not saying all are poor but many come from poor backgrounds and get in it for the fast money. The more wealth inequality the more SWs you will have. Read Rosedelacourt's post it summaries the tip of the iceberg.

I return to you your question...

Why do you keep on saying it’s NOT easy money? You live on another planet? I explained and many others did to you but you seems to be clueless about what’s’ going on around you in other businesses. I do speak from a client perspective who’s able to have a look around to compare the money made in the business compared with other. And I speak regularly with lady’s in the trade and two owners. And since this board is a clients review board, I do share my point of view as a client.

Why are you so upset that you describe people with a différents point of view as moron? Are you without arguments? You act like a union representative. Are you the union representing the sex workers ? Are you a sex worker? Are you a pimp?

I say that the money is fast and easy in the massage business and the proof is that a lot of the sex workers have a regular job but they work a couple of shifts a week to add some dollars in their wallet.

And finally, since you use the word MORON to describe the guys not sharing your point of view while nobody did insults you as far as I know, i will report your post to the mod.

 

[Fradi]

Of course it's about the money lol it's a job. Would you work for free? Probably not.

I don’t think I implied anywhere that I would work for free or that I expected anybody else to do that either I think I said the exact opposite. I am glad we agree.

 

[rosedelacourt]

Sexslave, you actively IGNORE the multiple interventions from sex workers who are in a much better position than you to decide whether or not their job can be described as easy. So yeah, I don't think Cloud500 is the one being unreasonable here. It is FAST money, but not EASY money. We are actively conceding that to you yet you seem hell-bent on ignoring our input.

 

[LeBoudoir]

Rose, you beat me to it. Sexslave, you have done exactly what Rose has mentioned. You've addressed Cloud500 about the topic but totally avoided the numerous points Rose brought up, which were coherent, well thought out and precise. Maybe it's ignorance or maybe you have some sort of disdain for sex workers but it's really sad to even remotely think that it's "easy" for an individual to walk into a room with a total stranger and bear all. And, obviously, all the other points the Rose brought out.
I'm not here to change your mind but the fact that you reiterate this being "easy money" tells me a lot about the type of "client" you are.

 

[sexslave]

Sexslave, you actively IGNORE the multiple interventions from sex workers who are in a much better position than you to decide whether or not their job can be described as easy. So yeah, I don't think Cloud500 is the one being unreasonable here. It is FAST money, but not EASY money. We are actively conceding that to you yet you seem hell-bent on ignoring our input.

Rose, no job is easy. Fireman, policeman, CHSLD, nursing, etc. But the money made in the sex industry IS easy money from my point of view and ALSO from some lady’s in the trade (old friends saying that they much prefer to be in the massage business than go back full time in nursing or CHSLD).

You gonna tell me that you have to wait sometimes long hours doing nothing? How about an airline pilot in covid time? Even in a normal year, the pilots are waiting between flights a couple of days.

For you it might be hard work. But may be it’s your choice to stay in the sex business because you don’t have any other way to earn so much money with this level of efforts.

Tell me Rose that you can earn as much money with the same level of effort? Doing what? In how many hours?

And please, don’t put words in my mouth. I ALWAYS said easy MONEY. I never said easy JOB.

Finally what do you think of the people not sharing your point of view and making it public? Can they freely express themselves as long as they don’t insult anybody ? What do you say if I put Moron like Cloud did to me next to your name? Do you condemn it?

 

[sexslave]

Rose, you beat me to it. Sexslave, you have done exactly what Rose has mentioned. You've addressed Cloud500 about the topic but totally avoided the numerous points Rose brought up, which were coherent, well thought out and precise. Maybe it's ignorance or maybe you have some sort of disdain for sex workers but it's really sad to even remotely think that it's "easy" for an individual to walk into a room with a total stranger and bear all. And, obviously, all the other points the Rose brought out.
I'm not here to change your mind but the fact that you reiterate this being "easy money" tells me a lot about the type of "client" you are.

I invite you to read all my previously posts on the subject and address all of them. And I did respond to cloud because he quoted my post. I did not reply to Miss Rose and her point of view that I don’t share but respect.

And who are you to judge me saying that I have disdain for the sex workers? We ever had an exchange? We went to school together ? Are you trying to bully me on the board when you say that my comments are saying a lot about the type of client I am? You are short of arguments so you try to attack my reputation instead of having a discussion?

 

[LeBoudoir]

My arguments are exactly the same as Rose's. I don't need to rewrite them as she encompassed every single point and more.
As I've stated, I'm not here to change your mind or your opinion.

Cheers

 

[CLOUD 500]

Why do you keep on saying it’s NOT easy money? You live on another planet? I explained and many others did to you but you seems to be clueless about what’s’ going on around you in other businesses. I do speak from a client perspective who’s able to have a look around to compare the money made in the business compared with other.

Why are you so upset that you describe people with a différents point of view as moron?

I say that the money is fast and easy in the massage business and the proof is that a lot of the sex workers have a regular job but they work a couple of shifts a week to add some dollars in their wallet.

Loool I looked back the posts to see who it was that quoted 3k a week and it was you. Indeed it was a very idiotic post. Ignorance has no limits. Moving on here if girls were making so much money as you claim they did and it was so easy why do girls bother to keep a regular job? And this is coming from a guy that never worked as a masseuse. You are in denial. See many Merbites presented you the reality and even some SWs added their two cents like Rosedelacourt but you are still in denial. The majority DISAGREE with you. Since it is such easy and big money as you suggested I would suggest a change of profession for you, work as a SW.

And I speak regularly with lady’s in the trade and two owners. And since this board is a clients review board, I do share my point of view as a client.

This I do not believe at all.

 

[funnyricky]

I don't even know why this kind of thread was start....its was sure that with this kind of topic,we are going right crashing to the wall........with out going no where Lollllll! What was the initial goal of this topic???? don't know Lollllll

 

[rosedelacourt]

Sexslave, easy money implies easy job. Nobody just hands you money for doing nothing. THAT would be easy money. Everything else isn't. No job is EASY money. No job is EASY.

Your said ladies in the thread say they prefer sex-work to full-time nursing, which is a valid choice given how little paid nurses are (which is a shame really) for the work they actually do. Perhaps sex work is easier for them, but it doesn't mean again that it's an easy job/money,

As for your comparison to airline pilots, I find that interesting. Do you think we have stable hours daily/weekly? You don't think there are periods in a year where the bookings don't come in or barely do? Such as Christmas, tax-season, back to school... where people have less discretionary income than they normally do. Now also, during COVID many pilots are out of a job due to no demand in travelling. You don't think this translates to sexwork? Men forced to work at home aka no excuse to meet, no more business travels, less money, scared of getting sick...You don't think this makes it slow and brings many days/weeks without bookings?

I have never said it is HARD work for me. Knowing personally and having met tons of sex workers, reading books and listening to podcasts on the topic. I know for a fact it's not easy money nor an easy job. You simply base your opinion on stigma, a few lady friends and your perception as a client.

First of all, you don't know how much a sex worker make. Considering I am thin (albeit rather muscular), conventionally attractive and young, I know I probably make more than 90% of my colleagues. But I know the majority don't come close to making the said 3K you have mentioned. Also, we might be working a few hours in the week for a good hourly rate, but that doesn't even begin to cover the amount of work we have to do in order to get those bookings. Writing ads, posting ads, answering many emails/messages on multiple platforms, creating content. That doesn't count the hours I have to spend in the gym, cooking, doing my nails, my hair, etc to ensure I look good and up to the standard people expect from me.

You can freely express yourself, I never said you couldn't. But you choose to actively ignore the comments of the very people you discuss about / hire.

 

[sexslave]

Like it or

Loool I looked back the posts to see who it was that quoted 3k a week and it was you. Indeed it was a very idiotic post. Ignorance has no limits. Moving on here if girls were making so much money as you claim they did and it was so easy why do girls bother to keep a regular job? And this is coming from a guy that never worked as a masseuse. You are in denial. See many Merbites presented you the reality and even some SWs added their two cents like Rosedelacourt but you are still in denial. The majority DISAGREE with you. Since it is such easy and big money as you suggested I would suggest a change of profession for you, work as a SW.



This I do not believe at all.
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Like it or not, in normal times many full time masseuses are making 3,000 a week. In covid time it’s not as it was. THIS IS REALITY !!!!!!!

And I don’t care about what people might or might not say. I stand to my ground and still say that...

FAST and EASY MONEY.... not easy job

 

[RVK7]

Sexslave, you actively IGNORE the multiple interventions from sex workers who are in a much better position than you to decide whether or not their job can be described as easy. So yeah, I don't think Cloud500 is the one being unreasonable here. It is FAST money, but not EASY money. We are actively conceding that to you yet you seem hell-bent on ignoring our input.

At the risk of repeating myself. This stubborn idea of easy money suggests that not only are they (SWs) too much paid for what they do, but also, and perhaps even more so, for what they are. Not only do we want these women to give us what is expected of them, but we want them to give it to us on our terms and accept it without saying anything. Before, during and even after, as we can see in this thread.