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Je pense qu’il y en a qui aime juste ça venir ici pour chialer contre les femmes. Ben coudonc comme ils disent
 

urquell

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lmao then what are you guys mad about if you don’t even want to see the women that ask for screenings in the first place?

Why are you bothered that they ask for screening if you had no intention to see them because you already have found les perles rares
Once again, you're not paying attention and you're zoning in on the things that affect you without considering others or other situations of which you aren't a part that have been discussed in this thread. I can't be bothered to go back and do post referrals for you again so I'm not going to. You're a smart girl and you know how to read, if selectively. Go check yourself. I have spoken at length sharing information and experience for people who do have to deal with a variety of situations regularly, and also for the situations in which security stuff does apply to me (new indy MPs for example, or for when I travel). For some reason you've taken an antagonistic stance on anything I say on this matter even though most of the situations don't apply to you or to the other ladies on MERB, and even though I've repeatedly made it clear that most of it most of the remedies don't apply to MERB ladies or reputable agencies either. I presume it's because some of it goes against your business model and you're hyper focused on that. That's fine, and I get promoting yourself, but the only two things that might apply to you are the deposits and the screening, and probably none of the rest of it. I've given an opinion and my personal experience, presented information, and again have repeatedly said that the decision on what to do with that information lies with the individual.

There have been a zillion threads about SP security, and I have no real problem with that. Why do you have such a problem with just one thread about client security? And why in the world would you care about how I go about mongering, or even by implication insulting the ladies I do see, and whom you don't know?
 
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Fradi

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You are simple minded if you think women do this only because they like nice things. If by nice things you mean ‘not sleeping on a park bench’ then sure…

A lot of people are in it because they can’t keel a regular job but don’t meet the requirements for welfare cheques
Why! are you doing it so you won’t sleep on a park bench? I highly doubt it.
Yes a lot are doing it because they won’t adapt to a regular job can’t is a very subjective word.
Many have endured a lot of things and didn’t become escorts, in fact you are a small minority.
I don’t see anything wrong with escorting if that is what someone chooses to do, but it is a choice that they make.

There are many that have regular careers outside of escorting and yes they are doing it because they want the luxuries that a regular job won’t afford.
So I wonder who is being simple minded.

Escorts come from all works of life just like other people.
 
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lmao then what are you guys mad about if you don’t even want to see the women that ask for screenings in the first place?

Why are you bothered that they ask for screening if you had no intention to see them because you already have found les perles rares
Who said we are mad about anything.
It is just a simple discussion of what security precautions we take. That is what this board is for I believe to keep us all safe so yes this is a highly appropriate thread.
As usual it is very diversified, some are extremely vigilant and careful and others couldn’t care less and will hand over any document an SP requires or asks for.

It seems you are the one that is upset that not everybody is willing to just nod their head in approval and go along with anything and everything an escort would ask for.

Personally I don’t have a problem with the ladies I see they have known me for many years have been inside my home and they are friends.
 

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lol. I see you didn't read the whole thread. I'll refer you back to post #48. I can see any of the girls you see but I choose not to, because the experience is so much less than I have now. You also cannot see any of the girls I see, because I have built my own personal circle of ladies outside of the conventional system.
Not sure why we have to make snide assumptions. Despite my clear disagreement with some of the stances in this thread I've read every line.

I specifically ignored your described situation bc it applies to literally no one. You're in a different league, with your turbo-harem of underpaid semi-girlfriends. Rest of us have decisions to make and rules to play by.

The thread had one question: What do you do to protect yourself from predatory providers? We each have our ways, and I've said my piece, but I appreciate the advice from the summit of Pussy Mountain. (j/k, I don't need any more heat).
 

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Not sure why we have to make snide assumptions. Despite my clear disagreement with some of the stances in this thread I've read every line.

I specifically ignored your described situation bc it applies to literally no one. You're in a different league, with your turbo-harem of underpaid semi-girlfriends. Rest of us have decisions to make and rules to play by.

The thread had one question: What do you do to protect yourself from predatory providers? We each have our ways, and I've said my piece, but I appreciate the advice from the summit of Pussy Mountain. (j/k, I don't need any more heat).
lol, who's being snide now? "turbo harem"? "Pussy mountain"? *snort* :)

It's true that the situation I described applies to probably very few people here, but it's actually a situation that's very common elsewhere, and other guys were the inspiration for me to try to create something equal here. I'm not an innovator by any stretch and didn't come up with some revolutionary new concept on my own. Expat groups in latin america are absolutely rife with arrangements like mine, and inspired me to do the same here. One of the reasons that these arrangements exist is for safety, the main reason for discussion on this thread. The ladies don't seem to feel that they're underpaid either, but again consider the different situation before jumping to any conclusions. They have no advertising costs, no incall costs, no wardrobe costs, no transportation expenses or any other costs etc., etc., and no expenses, because I pay for whatever, and they don't do this as a principal source of income. Guys seem to think that the ladies working here are absorbing gobs of money and rich beyond the dreams of Midas because of their hourly rate without considering how much effort and cost goes into it. The girls I see don't have any of that. Again it's easy to look through one set of eyes, but really there's just a huge variety of different situations.

No heat from me. We're just having a discussion. You're still in my good books. lol. It's fine to question stuff, the need for it and the applicability of anything. Debate is fine too. Why shouldn't people question the need for anything that seems weird to them? But it goes both ways, and both sides of the equation need to be questioned, and even if the information isn't relevant now it could be later for anyone reading this thread and entering into a new situation or looking to change the current one. I just think that the scope of the vision needs to be broader in some instances.
 

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We both know where we each stand on this, so I'm not really referring to you. There's a trend in these types of threads to turn simple (and optional) requests by SPs into some overblown attack on our privacy when the power imbalance is almost always in the client's favour.
That is totally false. The game changed with BIll C-36, it handed all the power to the SPs. One of the reasons scams exploded on Leolist types of sites and the girls know this. She can scam and get away with it. They demand payment upfront, once she gets the money there is nothing a client can do about it. She can throw him out without giving any service and if the guy refuses to leave without his money she can call the cops. In the eyes of the law the man is the predator and the girl is the victim. It is a broad criminalizing of all men. I like this thread and it is things men should do to protect themselves.

Merb is a very small pool of escorts where there is some legitimacy, but out of Merb it is the wild west. Merb agencies and escorts is the only place I am okay to pay upfront but everywhere else that will never happen. One of the most important things is to NEVER pay upfront. This is the rule to follow in other countries like Latin America. You could get scammed and again there is nothing you can do once she gets the money. No law in this world protect clients of escorts at least none that I know off. I got big concerns about my privacy especially with Bill C-36, I will never provide my ID and I do not got LinkedIn. Who knows how that information will be used by the SP. That is why I strictly use agencies or if there is an Indy with a straightforward booking process then it is all good also.
 
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That is totally false. The game changed with BIll C-36, it handed all the power to the SPs. One of the reasons scams exploded on Leolist types of sites and the girls know this. She can scam and get away with it. They demand payment upfront, once she gets the money there is nothing a client can do about it. She can throw him out without giving any service and if the guy refuses to leave without his money she can call the cops. In the eyes of the law the man is the predator and the girl is the victim. It is a broad criminalizing of all men. I like this thread and it is things men should do to protect themselves.

Merb is a very small pool of escorts where there is some legitimacy, but out of Merb it is the wild west. Merb agencies and escorts is the only place I am okay to pay upfront but everywhere else that will never happen. One of the most important things is to NEVER pay upfront. This is the rule to follow in other countries like Latin America. You could get scammed and again there is nothing you can do once she gets the money. No law in this world protect clients of escorts at least none that I know off. I got big concerns about my privacy especially with Bill C-36, I will never provide my ID and I do not got LinkedIn. Who knows how that information will be used by the SP. That is why I strictly use agencies or if there is an Indy with a straightforward booking process then it is all good also.
I meant power imbalance from a physical safety standpoint but it doesn't matter, we're not going to change each other's minds on this. You take your level of risk and I'll take mine.
 

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I meant power imbalance from a physical safety standpoint but it doesn't matter, we're not going to change each other's minds on this. You take your level of risk and I'll take mine.
Good point. How many posts we read on this board about some guy showing up threatening the client with something bad if he did not leave? For sure there is a power imbalance in the SP favor. The guys that are there for protection we got no clue what they are capable off, these are not nice people. Like I said we are talking about out of Merb, Merb is the exception. I personally will never use Leolist types of sites because my physical safety is in peril, not worth it for pussy. I just stick with the agencies on Merb or from strippers I meet at the clubs.
 
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