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Sol Tee Nutz

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Look behind you.
The media needs to quit with this, variants will be happening for years and we need to stop living like this, total stupidity to live in fear. The percentages of deaths do not match the fear, the media lives to scare people. Carry on, one day your life may get back to normal.
Just my opinion.
 
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^^^^Completely agree with STN. I have been watching Israel for some ray of hope that other countries will fair well with vaccinations. Clearly where people are not getting vaccinated things aren't looking that good, for example with Canada and France having their recent uptick in cases. At least the death rates aren't as high as when COVID hit all of us this time last year. The US may have another uptick before the mass vaccinations really give us a backstop so that our curve can look more like Israel's. I hope that the media and lord Fauci are pressing the variances conversation because the really just want to motivate people to go out and get vaccinated.
 

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STN don`t blame the media......blame the virus and how people react to the threat.
Most main stream media just reports facts .
Ontario is closing down for the month of April and that`s not a joke or media induced.
I wouldn`t be surprised if Quebec follows soon so I`m heading out for a haircut before its too late.
 

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Everything I have read said that just the first dose of the vaccine should prevent serious illness or death. I have no idea what's going on in Canada. In CT we just started vaccinating those who are 16-44 years old and we anticipate herd immunity being reached in CT by mid May. Restaurants are operating at 100% capacity. A semi normalcy is returning.
 

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Beav my ATF, whom you didn`t meet but you had heard of and you gifted her to a mutual friend for his B/D, had a SD who lived in CT. He was a senior VP of Pfizer. This is only a guess, but maybe CT got superior treatment from Pfizer. because of the State`s connection to the Company.
 

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I am not sure, but Pfizer does have a huge facility in eastern Connecticut and I found out something very interesting about Pfizer a few years ago, while involved in a lawsuit brought by a Pfizer employee who worked at that CT facility. They are one of these companies that recruits overseas and raids overseas universities of their top graduates. The plaintiff in that case was a highly compensated person at Pfizer who graduated valedictorian of their class at a well known European university. Pfizer had paid all costs of the employee's relocation to the USA, paid for attorneys to get green card etc as well. The large investment banks in NYC do exactly the same as Pfizer. They go to McGill in Quebec, to other countries best universities, and offer top dollar salary and relocation costs plus costs of getting the green card etc. Simply put, they raid and buy away the best and brightest at foreign universities, who usually come cheaper overall than the same graduates from Yale and Harvard who have steeper financial expectations on salary and greater loan debt. One of my clients who works at one of the investment banks and comes from a country in South America (at which the client was valedictorian of the top university in that nation) described this process by which she was wooed and financially seduced. It was quite interesting to hear.

But we are talking about people making well into 6 figures or more at advanced positions with these companies. And in the case of Pfizer they know who is working on clinical trials and doing great work overseas from the chemists to the stats and math majors needed for trial data presentation. They target people who are still doing clinical work in school and go after them hard.

This is the power of Big Pharma and the power of Wall Street in action - they buy away talent wherever they can find it.
 
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Cloudy, your not serious about Connecticut and Pfizer? I thought you were joking.
 

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Cloudy, your not serious about Connecticut and Pfizer? I thought you were joking.
I thought he was joking too, but added what info I know about that facility. I think the Pfizer headquarters are actually in Mass., if I am not mistaken, but that facility in CT is a good sized one.

Regarding Pfizer, on a separate subject, I wonder how much money they will make off their vaccine when everyone gets it? I am still waiting for part 2. I would like to see their profit and loss statements for 2021.
 

Sol Tee Nutz

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STN don`t blame the media......blame the virus and how people react to the threat.
They react to the threat? The threat is caused by the media, I am assuming you are good with numbers and can figure out this is not the end all of all viruses and completely ruining the economy was not worth it.
We have no comparison to letting it all open up, after month 3 if all was opened and masks were not manditory we do not know what it would be like now, only guesses. With less than 1% of the population dying I see the panic was embellished, the economy should not have ruined over this.
A far better feasible plan could have been implemented after the first wave.
 
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Tell the stock market that the economy is in tatters. Yes certain sectors imploded while others had tremendous growth. World markets are at an all time high. The rich, the smart and the innovators have prospered . Now other sectors are coming back ....some like a slow boat and others like a speed boat.
If you want to see how well countries that took early action fared.... just look at most of the Asian-Pacific world.
If you want to see an example where the central government took no action..... then look at the disaster called Brasil.
World economies and trade are so inter-reliant that even countries that took little action , like Sweden, have suffered as much economically as their neighbors who had placed restrictions.
 

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Tell the stock market that the economy is in tatters. Yes certain sectors imploded while others had tremendous growth. World markets are at an all time high. The rich, the smart and the innovators have prospered . Now other sectors are coming back ....some like a slow boat and others like a speed boat.
If you want to see how well countries that took early action fared.... just look at most of the Asian-Pacific world.
If you want to see an example where the central government took no action..... then look at the disaster called Brasil.
World economies and trade are so inter-reliant that even countries that took little action , like Sweden, have suffered as much economically as their neighbors who had placed restrictions.
The stock market is a piss poor measure of economic health. Everyone knows this. The inflated stock prices are a result of the central banks pumping a shit ton of money into the economies of the world. Production is down all over the world while liquidity is at an all time high. There’s just way too much money chasing too few goods, services and assets.
 
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STN don`t blame the media......blame the virus and how people react to the threat.
Most main stream media just reports facts .
Ontario is closing down for the month of April and that`s not a joke or media induced.
I wouldn`t be surprised if Quebec follows soon so I`m heading out for a haircut before its too late.
I agree
 
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STN don`t blame the media......blame the virus and how people react to the threat.
Most main stream media just reports facts .
Ontario is closing down for the month of April and that`s not a joke or media induced.
I wouldn`t be surprised if Quebec follows soon so I`m heading out for a haircut before its too late.
Legault is trying to pretend he won't, but I expect April to be shut down more than just the three cities he announced this week.
 

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It saddens me to hear this because we all have to wait for Canada to get its shit together before the border reopens, while we have been busy getting our shit together and are now having to wait for Canada to do the same. I had been hoping for a late May border reopening since I will be 2 weeks out from my 2nd vaccine on May 1.
 
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One of many concerns though is that covid19 will develop, in several months, as many variants as the flu has thus making it a requirement to get new shots every year.
 
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