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cloudsurf

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Canada has caught up with the US in number of cases per capita. Because of the JT`s government pathetic handling of the vaccine rollout, Canada will soon be behind the States.
As far as variants go the US has as big a problem as Canada . The UK variant is the prominent virus in most US states. The world will soon have a major problem with the Brazilian variant or should I say variants. Brazil is a petrie dish for variants of Covid.
You poor American mongers can`t go anywhere in the America`s or most of Europe. How about Australia instead.
 

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Everyone that is freaking out about the variants really needs to calm down. To date, no discovered variant has demonstrated vaccine escape. The mutations will eventually come to a halt. If a virus mutates too much it will mutate itself out of existence
 

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Everyone should be concerned about variants. They are more contagious and being spread by younger adults and kids. Ontario is in lockdown but it still had a record of over 4000 cases yesterday. Lockdowns don`t work unless schools are closed, air travel is curtailed, and everyone is mandated by law to wear a mask.
 
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A little more than 34% of the US have had their first shot of the Covid vaccine and about 20% have been fully vaccinated. More variants are discovered everyday and they now have frightening new names like the "double mutant" variant. Our Covid numbers have been coming down while other countries have been on the rise. In the US we aren't adhering to the recommendations from the CDC anymore than we have in the past. IMHO the only reason our Covid cases are continually dropping and deaths have been significantly reduced is because people are getting vaccinated. We are far from herd immunity but at least we are on track to have a good percentage of Americans that want to be vaccinated by the summer.
 

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I was under the impression that #’s have plateaued? In some states #’s are increasing as well as hospitalizations. The age bracket of those who are getting hospitalized has also shifted to 40-60 year olds.

But concur whole heartedly with your last statement
 

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Everyone should be concerned about variants. They are more contagious and being spread by younger adults and kids. Ontario is in lockdown but it still had a record of over 4000 cases yesterday. Lockdowns don`t work unless schools are closed, air travel is curtailed, and everyone is mandated by law to wear a mask.
Didn’t say variants shouldn’t be of concern..just said people are freaking out too much about them. Like I said, no variant has demonstrated vaccine escape. The main reason you’re seeing so many cases is because Canada is severely lagging behind in vaccinations.
 
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Didn’t say variants shouldn’t be of concern..just said people are freaking out too much about them. Like I said, no variant has demonstrated vaccine escape. The main reason you’re seeing so many cases is because Canada is severely lagging behind in vaccinations.
Very true that Canada is severely lagging behind the States in vaccinations, but its not the only reason that covid cases have spiked to all time highs.
When you get a vax and only build a low level of antibodies then you have a chance of catching covid after a vaccine ......as thousands of Americans have in the last couple of months. A form of vaccine escape found mostly among variants.
 

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When you get a vax and only build a low level of antibodies then you have a chance of catching covid after a vaccine ......as thousands of Americans have in the last couple of months. A form of vaccine escape found mostly among variants.
I am unaware of any documented cases of infection after full vaccination (post two weeks) let alone “thousands.”
 

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Didn’t say variants shouldn’t be of concern..just said people are freaking out too much about them. Like I said, no variant has demonstrated vaccine escape. The main reason you’re seeing so many cases is because Canada is severely lagging behind in vaccinations.
Are you a virologist to make this claim?
 
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ssj3

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Are you a virologist to make this claim?
Here we go with the ad hominem attacks. I work in healthcare and have directly dealt with COVID patients so that gives me some credibility. Also @cloudsurf, antibodies are not the only thing that conveys immunity. You have to factor in T-cells, memory B cells and complement as well. The immune response is a robust one..people shouldn’t just focus on antibodies.
 

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Here we go with the ad hominem attacks, No, it was a question.

Thank you for your answer, ssj3
 
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The Nature Boy

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Here we go with the ad hominem attacks. I work in healthcare and have directly dealt with COVID patients so that gives me some credibility. Also @cloudsurf, antibodies are not the only thing that conveys immunity. You have to factor in T-cells, memory B cells and complement as well. The immune response is a robust one..people shouldn’t just focus on
What is your field? Because it seems some of the comments your making are a bit off, with all do respect.

“If a virus mutates too much it will mutate itself out of existence”

So far it’s mutating and taking out a lot of peeps with it. These variants have changed the dynamics and age brackets of who is getting infected, and where.

Not saying shut all down and stay inside and lock ur doors, but some common sense please, wear a mask, wash your hands and if you see a SP ur dick and asshole as well please.

I’m fully vaccinated, I would go to a pub with a fully vaccinated group, but you better fuckin be sure i won’t be goin to see my 15 yo for about a week and after getting myself tested

If this corona virus mutates too much to the point it mutates out of existence, it will prob take more than a few people with it.

The key point is to stop it from mutating and the only way to do that is to stop it from replicating—>thus vaccinate as many as possible as keep as many peeps from getting infected with common sense measures, not lockdowns

Cloudy there are cases of people getting covid in USA after full Vaccination, I know a couple, but no one I’ve met was symptomatic. There are reports of some deaths(believe it’s out of Oregon) but it falls well within the efficacy rate of vaccines. There are many cases of reinfection, tons in South Africa and Brazil. I’m sure in USA too but testing and tracing is so shitty tough to keep track and that’s something some of you should criticize Biden about instead of talking bullshit about dementia and calling Harris a prostitute on an escort review board

In the Mid East where they are using one of the Chinese vaccines there are tons of cases of break through cases and deaths, but that vaccine is no where in North America or Europe

Just wear a mask, wash your hands, use common sense or else we could get a variant that escapes a vaccine
 
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There are reports of some deaths(believe it’s out of Oregon) but it falls well within the efficacy rate of vaccines.
95% efficacy rate means that 5% of those who are vaccinated will have serious illness or death. With 5 cases out of every 100, people are going to die. We are all going to die of something, eventually, anyway.
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Lot better rate than 500,000 + dead, @ that rate the virus is surely taking its time “mutating itself out” lol
 
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^^^^Out of the .04% that could catch Covid after being vaccinated it's very unlikely that you will have a severe case or need to be hospitalized. But it's still recommended to wear masks, social distance, etc. until the pandemic is over. It's gonna be a while until things get back to normal. A quote from the article below:

“The vaccine does not necessarily prevent you from getting COVID. It prevents you from being hospitalized or dying from it,” Dr. Kris Bungay, a Manhattan primary care physician, told The Post. “That is why we all still have to be careful.”




 
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