Coronavirus

[gaby]

Manifestation prévue cet après--midi downtown en face du complexe fédéral Guy Favreau par le groupe QUÉBEC DEBOUT wow ...alors profitez en bien.....vous ne resterez peut être pas debout pour encore bien longtemps.....lol....à suivre.

 

[cloudsurf]

Florida isn't the only state, I'm sure most states would have more.

You are right and I made a calculation error that was off by a factor of 10.
Florida has 10 times as many daily cases as all of Canada.

 

[sene5hos]

Manifestation contre le passeport vaccinal prévue à Montréal

Le ministre de la Santé doit annoncer cette semaine les modalités du passeport vaccinal, une manifestation est planifiée à Montréal, samedi.

journalmetro.com

Sont-ils seulement contre le passeport vaccinal?

 

[gallantca]

WTF daily cases have almost doubled in a week. At this rate of increase there won`t be any un-vaccinated left by year end....they will have all died off.
Trudeau keep that border shut!!

Surprised ?

The delta variant is extremely contagious. Extremely. Expect cases to double at a very rapid rate in Canada. It's out there. It's just a question of time.

The is a number called R0 which quantifies how contagious something is. Ebola is a 2. The original Covid was a 3. Delta is a 7. Chickenpox which is extremely contagious is a 10.

Very little current constraints, still a good number of unvaccinated, expect some interesting times over the next 3 months.

Let's put it this way, in 3 months from now a lot of people will have antibodies, from vaccination or "à la naturelle"


PS. Waloo posted an article about this months ago. At the time it seemed to make no sense. It makes a lot of sense now.

 

[IamNY]

You are right and I made a calculation error that was off by a factor of 10.
Florida has 10 times as many daily cases as all of Canada.

And what’s your point?

 

[gaby]

MANIF à Montréal....oh et c'est MAX BERNIER qui leadait la marche en quête d'électeurs ...quelques milliers pour le protéger cette fois..lol .....alors grosso modo pour revendiquer la liberté de choix----passeport vaccinal ,vaccination----- et tutti frutti......bien oui...allez y choisissez le risque de contaminer vos proches et de tomber malade.....et vous implorerez alors famille et amis à se faire vacciner....my 2 cents.

 

[IamNY]

I found this interesting, especially the video within the article. I guess things in the US were going all too well for too long according to the media and they finally were able to get their pound of flesh. I didn't go to Sturgis this year or last because of the COVID concern, but the longest running motorcycle rally in the US shouldn't be part of the medias annual super spreader scare tactics. The message should be to get vaccinated. What was interesting in the video was that it shows super spreader events happening all over the country not just South Dakota. What it also pointed out is how many in minority communities that are just not getting vaccinated. Fear works to increase viewership, it doesn't motivate people to get vaccinated. The politics of COVID is beyond ridiculous no matter what your views are. Get vaccinated, if not run the risk of catching COVID and having an unfavorable bout with it.

https://news.yahoo.com/kristi-noem-criticizes-political-fauci-232800027.html

 

[wetnose]

WTF daily cases have almost doubled in a week. At this rate of increase there won`t be any un-vaccinated left by year end .... they will have all died off.
Trudeau keep that border shut !!

No, it's not that bad. COVID doesn't have a fatality rate of 60%+, let's be real. That being said, it does lead to a high number of unvaxxed people getting seriously ill and that's enough to shut down our hospital system.

 

[cloudsurf]

Fair notice : I sometimes us sarcasm and even eggggsageration to hi-lite a point.
BTW if the mortality rate was 60% we wouldn`t be having this or any discussion.
Interesting how nature has picked only humans , and not for the first time, to suffer a plague of biblical proportion.
God must be really pissed at how selfishly mankind has abused nature and this unique gem of a planet..

 

[sene5hos]

No, it's not that bad. COVID doesn't have a fatality rate of 60%+, let's be real. That being said, it does lead to a high number of unvaxxed people getting seriously ill and that's enough to shut down our hospital system.

But there were 11,242 deaths in Quebec alone.

And 4,37 million worldwide, according to official numbers, but in reality it's much more.

Imagine, you have to go to the emergency room, and you stay in the corridor for days because there are a large number of unvaccinated people occupying the places?

 

[IamNY]

Prior to the vaccines COVID deaths were very high. We didn’t know how to treat people so of course the total number of deaths will be high. Since vaccines and therapeutics have become abundant the death rates have gone down considerably. So I don’t think it’s fair to use total COVID deaths as an example for above. It certainly makes a statement and gets your attention. But it’s not comparing apples to apples. I’m not saying COVID is no longer a threat, but we have come a long way from all of the initial deaths since the beginning.

 

[Fradi]

Imagine, you have to go to the emergency room, and you stay in the corridor for days because there are a large number of unvaccinated people occupying the places?

Unfortunately you were staying in the corridor for days even before anyone new covid existed.
Quebecs health care and old age care homes were a shambles way before covid and all previous governments did fuck all to correct it whether it was Liberals, Parti Quebec or the CAQ.
Politicians are the lowest life forms on the planet.

 

[gallantca]

Unfortunately you were staying in the corridor for days even before anyone new covid existed.
Quebecs health care and old age care homes were a shambles way before covid and all previous governments did fuck all to correct it whether it was Liberals, Parti Quebec or the CAQ.
Politicians are the lowest life forms on the planet.

This is true. However Covid broke it even more than it was previously broken. And this is THE reason restrictions had to be put it place.

I don't think anyone can deny Covid brought the health care system to the brink. Any disagreements ?

I think everyone can agree something had to be done to bring it somewhat back or preventing it from falling further. Any disagreements ?

I think where they are diverging opinion are what measures were most effective.
For example, I believe proper border control would have been more effective than the curfew. But that is an opinion.

If someone doesn't agree with the first two points on the need to take stress off the health system they are living in an alternate reality.

We shouldn't forget that countries with "relatively good" health care system got overrun by Covid. It wasn't just Quebec. I am the first to crap on Legault, but nobody escaped this.

BTW, there was a recent ranking of the health systems of 11 high income countries. Canada ended up 10th. But many of the top 10 where overwhelmed.

 

[Fradi]

^^^^^^
I agree with your assessment, unfortunately I can almost guarantee that 5 years from now even if this whole covid crap will be behind us people will still be waiting in the emergency area in corridors for hours on end and in corridors for days waiting for a room.
Seniors will not be treated any better in old age care facilities, there will not be more nurses, doctors, caretakers, or even A/C in these places.
I had the misfortune of visiting some of these places everyday for 8 months and my only wish is that I will not live long enough to end up in one of these places.
Politicians will not do a thing once the pressure is of the pandemic will be off their shoulder they will go right back to all kinds of cuts on health care.

 

[sene5hos]

Florida records a thousand covid deaths in a week and a 151,000

Florida heath officials reported a record number of COVID-19 cases this week as Governor Ron DeSantis faces pushback to his ban of the mask mandate in schools.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Florida records 1,071 COVID deaths in a week amid Delta variant surge in the state.

Florida has set a new record for weekly infections with 151,415 new COVID-19 cases over the past week, an average of 21,630 cases each day.

The state also recorded an additional 1,071 deaths, a daily average of 153, in the health department's weekly report.

These growing numbers come as the state set a record for COVID hospitalizations due to a massive surge as the Indian 'Delta' variant.

 

[gallantca]

From a Doctor

Vaccine Refusers Risk Compassion Fatigue

After the horrors that health-care workers have endured during the pandemic, many are struggling to sympathize with people who won’t protect themselves.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[sene5hos]

Yesterday in USA

252 k new cases
1,016 dead

 

[cloudsurf]

Now believe this if you wish... New Zealand was placed on total lockdown after one, yes 1, case of covid was reported.
Ahern deserves a medal while de santis, the wanna be dictator of Fla., deserves to be hung up by his rhoids

 

[Fradi]

De Santis, De Santis, where is the idiot in Chief and his invisible V.P. in all this who made all kinds of promises on the number of vaccinations prior election.
Strange that there is always a favourite scapegoat.
252K new cases in the US all the fault of De Santis yeah makes a whole lot of sense.
The idiot in chief has no role in this lol.

 

[Like_It_Hot]

The idiot in chief lost the election fair and square in november 2020. That's over with him. If you know a bit about the American political system, you should know that governors have huge power. Yes De Santis is powerfull and goes against the good wealth of Florida. As stated before: Florida records 1,071 COVID deaths in a week amid Delta variant surge in the state. That is the important thing to care about.