Coronavirus

[sene5hos]

No, it's not that bad. COVID doesn't have a fatality rate of 60%+, let's be real. That being said, it does lead to a high number of unvaxxed people getting seriously ill and that's enough to shut down our hospital system.

But there were 11,242 deaths in Quebec alone.

And 4,37 million worldwide, according to official numbers, but in reality it's much more.

Imagine, you have to go to the emergency room, and you stay in the corridor for days because there are a large number of unvaccinated people occupying the places?

 

[IamNY]

Prior to the vaccines COVID deaths were very high. We didn’t know how to treat people so of course the total number of deaths will be high. Since vaccines and therapeutics have become abundant the death rates have gone down considerably. So I don’t think it’s fair to use total COVID deaths as an example for above. It certainly makes a statement and gets your attention. But it’s not comparing apples to apples. I’m not saying COVID is no longer a threat, but we have come a long way from all of the initial deaths since the beginning.

 

[Fradi]

Imagine, you have to go to the emergency room, and you stay in the corridor for days because there are a large number of unvaccinated people occupying the places?

Unfortunately you were staying in the corridor for days even before anyone new covid existed.
Quebecs health care and old age care homes were a shambles way before covid and all previous governments did fuck all to correct it whether it was Liberals, Parti Quebec or the CAQ.
Politicians are the lowest life forms on the planet.

 

[gallantca]

Unfortunately you were staying in the corridor for days even before anyone new covid existed.
Quebecs health care and old age care homes were a shambles way before covid and all previous governments did fuck all to correct it whether it was Liberals, Parti Quebec or the CAQ.
Politicians are the lowest life forms on the planet.

This is true. However Covid broke it even more than it was previously broken. And this is THE reason restrictions had to be put it place.

I don't think anyone can deny Covid brought the health care system to the brink. Any disagreements ?

I think everyone can agree something had to be done to bring it somewhat back or preventing it from falling further. Any disagreements ?

I think where they are diverging opinion are what measures were most effective.
For example, I believe proper border control would have been more effective than the curfew. But that is an opinion.

If someone doesn't agree with the first two points on the need to take stress off the health system they are living in an alternate reality.

We shouldn't forget that countries with "relatively good" health care system got overrun by Covid. It wasn't just Quebec. I am the first to crap on Legault, but nobody escaped this.

BTW, there was a recent ranking of the health systems of 11 high income countries. Canada ended up 10th. But many of the top 10 where overwhelmed.

 

[Fradi]

^^^^^^
I agree with your assessment, unfortunately I can almost guarantee that 5 years from now even if this whole covid crap will be behind us people will still be waiting in the emergency area in corridors for hours on end and in corridors for days waiting for a room.
Seniors will not be treated any better in old age care facilities, there will not be more nurses, doctors, caretakers, or even A/C in these places.
I had the misfortune of visiting some of these places everyday for 8 months and my only wish is that I will not live long enough to end up in one of these places.
Politicians will not do a thing once the pressure is of the pandemic will be off their shoulder they will go right back to all kinds of cuts on health care.

 

[sene5hos]

Florida records a thousand covid deaths in a week and a 151,000

Florida heath officials reported a record number of COVID-19 cases this week as Governor Ron DeSantis faces pushback to his ban of the mask mandate in schools.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Florida records 1,071 COVID deaths in a week amid Delta variant surge in the state.

Florida has set a new record for weekly infections with 151,415 new COVID-19 cases over the past week, an average of 21,630 cases each day.

The state also recorded an additional 1,071 deaths, a daily average of 153, in the health department's weekly report.

These growing numbers come as the state set a record for COVID hospitalizations due to a massive surge as the Indian 'Delta' variant.

 

[gallantca]

From a Doctor

Vaccine Refusers Risk Compassion Fatigue

After the horrors that health-care workers have endured during the pandemic, many are struggling to sympathize with people who won’t protect themselves.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[sene5hos]

Yesterday in USA

252 k new cases
1,016 dead

 

[cloudsurf]

Now believe this if you wish... New Zealand was placed on total lockdown after one, yes 1, case of covid was reported.
Ahern deserves a medal while de santis, the wanna be dictator of Fla., deserves to be hung up by his rhoids

 

[Fradi]

De Santis, De Santis, where is the idiot in Chief and his invisible V.P. in all this who made all kinds of promises on the number of vaccinations prior election.
Strange that there is always a favourite scapegoat.
252K new cases in the US all the fault of De Santis yeah makes a whole lot of sense.
The idiot in chief has no role in this lol.

 

[Like_It_Hot]

The idiot in chief lost the election fair and square in november 2020. That's over with him. If you know a bit about the American political system, you should know that governors have huge power. Yes De Santis is powerfull and goes against the good wealth of Florida. As stated before: Florida records 1,071 COVID deaths in a week amid Delta variant surge in the state. That is the important thing to care about.

 

[IamNY]

de santis, the wanna be dictator of Fla., deserves to be hung up by his rhoids

Your all over the place, let me see if I can make some sense of it. When a democrat is president we are to blame the governors? Unlike in a previous administration you had nothing to say about governors yet blamed everything on the president? COVID kills all people, and the last time I checked that included both democrats and republicans. People that live in the great state of Florida love their governor. They couldn't give a shit about how others feel about their beloved governor.

 

[Womaniser]

From a Doctor

Vaccine Refusers Risk Compassion Fatigue

After the horrors that health-care workers have endured during the pandemic, many are struggling to sympathize with people who won’t protect themselves.

www.theatlantic.com

I read the article and agree completely with the opinion of the phycisan.
Those unvaccinated patients may cause death of other patients by taking their place in intensive care.

 

[mr_scorpio]

Your all over the place, let me see if I can make some sense of it. When a democrat is president we are to blame the governors? Unlike in a previous administration you had nothing to say about governors yet blamed everything on the president? COVID kills all people, and the last time I checked that included both democrats and republicans. People that live in the great state of Florida love their governor. They couldn't give a shit about how others feel about their beloved governor.

DE Santis not so loved anymore; https://www.newsweek.com/ron-desant...s-covid-delta-variant-ravages-florida-1616533

 

[IamNY]

DE Santis not so loved anymore; https://www.newsweek.com/ron-desant...s-covid-delta-variant-ravages-florida-1616533

From a couple of weeks ago and in the middle of the summer when nobody is in Florida, so it's as relevant as a biased CNN poll regarding the Florida governor.

Instead of playing the blame game the worthless politicians need to unite to try to end the pandemic. The head of the Chair of National Governors Association, Andrew Cuomo of NY has resigned and is the middle of a sexual scandal so when the country needed him most to unite the governors he was to busy abusing women. But keep posting useless polls about things that won't help end the pandemic. Oh, and don't worry about all those Canadians traveling to Florida in the upcoming months, I'm sure they won't bring COVID back with them.

 

[sene5hos]

The countries with the highest covid-19 death toll

 

[IamNY]

^^^^ Should also include a video about the countries (China and Russia) that have misrepresented their COVID numbers.

 

[cloudsurf]

^^^^ Should also include a video about the countries (China and Russia) that have misrepresented their COVID numbers.

and the efficacy of their homegrown vaccines

 

[sene5hos]

^^^^ Should also include a video about the countries (China and Russia) that have misrepresented their COVID numbers.

Imagine Brazil

 

[wetnose]

‘It’s soul-draining’: Health workers deployed to Covid hot zones are overwhelmed by deaths among the unvaccinated

Inside an overflowing ICU, health workers face a frustrating new reality: The patients they’re treating are the people whose refusal to be vaccinated is prolonging the pandemic.

www.statnews.com

Maybe the anti-vaxxers should set up their own tent hospitals and get staffed with Facebook anti-vaxxers & prayer soldiers. Prayer circles every 3 hours around each patient.

No need for ventilators when you have cutting edge thoughts and prayers - isn't the survival rate 99.99%??? The miracle of prayer will save them all!!!!