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It is more than just studies by Big Pharma. These are statistics from hospitals. Why would Quebec’s numbers be so different?

”Further, most patients hospitalized as a result of breakthrough infections in recent weeks have had underlying health conditions. Take, for example, the 128 COVID-19 patients at Michigan Medicine, the hospital system affiliated with the University of Michigan, on January 10. Of the 49 vaccinated patients, only nine were younger than 65, not immunocompromised and didn’t have a significant underlying lung disease. Of the 79 unvaccinated patients, 34 were similarly young and healthy.

In New York, one of the first states to get slammed by the Omicron wave, both vaccinated and unvaccinated have seen an uptick in serious COVID-19 cases—but the gap in hospitalization rates between the two groups is effectively widening. Before mid-November, unvaccinated New Yorkers were hospitalized for COVID-19 at about 10 times the rate as their vaccinated neighbors. But since then, they’ve been about 14 times more likely to wind up in the hospital.”
Another statistic detail from Quebec. Only about 50% of hospitalized are hospitalized for COVID primarily. The other 50% are hospitalized for other reasons but with COVID. For example, if you are hospitalized for stroke and are positive for COVID you are counted as a COVID patient. There are cases when patients get COVID in a hospital while admitted for different reasons and were than included in the COVID statistics. This shows that statistics can be manipulated and thus differ between states and countries. The hospitals in US also have an additional pay for patients with COVID while in some other countries not. This influences statistics in a big way and like having different physics laws on the Moon and Mars.
 
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It is more than just studies by Big Pharma. These are statistics from hospitals. Why would Quebec’s numbers be so different?

”Further, most patients hospitalized as a result of breakthrough infections in recent weeks have had underlying health conditions. Take, for example, the 128 COVID-19 patients at Michigan Medicine, the hospital system affiliated with the University of Michigan, on January 10. Of the 49 vaccinated patients, only nine were younger than 65, not immunocompromised and didn’t have a significant underlying lung disease. Of the 79 unvaccinated patients, 34 were similarly young and healthy.

In New York, one of the first states to get slammed by the Omicron wave, both vaccinated and unvaccinated have seen an uptick in serious COVID-19 cases—but the gap in hospitalization rates between the two groups is effectively widening. Before mid-November, unvaccinated New Yorkers were hospitalized for COVID-19 at about 10 times the rate as their vaccinated neighbors. But since then, they’ve been about 14 times more likely to wind up in the hospital.”
Honestly, the Stats are questionable. There are 2 things I rely on in this issue, General result, and personal experience.
!0 billion doses of Vaccines have been administered. Did the pandemic stop? Did the general conditions improve? The answer is an obvious No. Who is getting hospitalized, and why? Depends on what side you are standing. It has become clear that both sides are cutting and slicing data as wished. The Vaccine has become a political tool, and a divisive one unfortunately.
In my personal experience, the only person I know that Died from COVID is an 89 years old women, who apparently COVID gave her a heart attack. Other then that, Vaccinated or not, the result was similar, Fever, fatigue, and sometimes loss of smell. I know of no young person that was hospitalized.
A doctor told me last year, that he believed that many COVID patient died of stress rather than COVID itself. Stress reduces immunity, and can lead to a deteriorating condition. Truth is most probably somewhere in between, but I do not see the Vaccine ending this Pandemic. I believe that the herd immunity argument, harsh and as scary as it is, was the correct strategy. Vaccines should have been developed only for those at risk, and not for mass inoculation. The logic that a Vaccinated should not be next to an Unvaccinated is simply absurd, and yet it makes sense to the leaders. In other words, while you are protected, you need to stay away. Go figure how this is logical. Furthermore, while we have much more Vaccinated then non Vaccinated, and conditions are worse, we still see the media pushing for it, and using the non vaccinated as escape goats. They do not answer the WHY are we worse while there are more Vaccinated then last year, or the year before, they just keep attacking the non vaccinated regardless of the facts.
 
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What a bizarre statement! I now understand how you figure out your thoughts.
You understood nothing. Most probably to you anything that contradicts even the idea that Vaccines have not delivered is dismissed regardless of proofs or situations. The only stats that matter are the ones that proves that idea. Anything else, logical or not, is to be ridiculed.
As to Answering questions, pfff, just use the Non vaccinated, and the meaningless stats argument, and continue by ridiculing any logical Argument. Instead of saying what a bizarre statement, how about precising what is bizarre about it. You do not believe stress reduces immunity? Google it, and see why stress is called the silent killer. When ridiculing is a strat for argumentation, it just means to that your arguments are empty or shaky at best.
 
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bonerland citizen

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Interesting mini-documentary from 1976.
Kinda creepy in the context of covid.
Same type of media propaganda as today.
Today media is amplified million fold by internet.
I guess that is why "They" pushed it globally to the limit.

60 Minutes: Swine Flu (1976)

Something from the youtube comments:
""Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
 

wetnose

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Update
Yesterday

USA:
+ 825 k new cases
3,866 dead

Total: + 864 k dead

Is there a graph for the daily dead? 3.8K is about 2x of the death toll from a month ago, am I right?


Florida: like another planet: https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...eels-like-another-planet-compared-with-quebec

In Florida, entire conversations happen without the C-word mentioned, unless you bring it up — which, of course, I did. I asked a group of seven 60-somethings I met at a restaurant terrace how they felt about Florida’s non-existent pandemic rules.

Every last one said they loved how Florida handles things. In the words of one woman “Our philosophy here is: I look after myself and you look after yourself. If you want to wear a mask indoors, you should. If you don’t want to go to a restaurant, you shouldn’t.”

When I asked about our collective responsibility to protect others she shrugged and said: “That’s just not how we think here.”

I mentioned Quebec’s recent curfew, but they all just laughed, dismissing it as “Canadian communism.”
 

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during my recent visit to montreal, i was very sad to see how many bars, cafes etc seemed to be permanently closed. in my travels, this is by far the worst effect of the pandemic that i have seen. st denis is one of my favorite streets- i usually stay near there and spend most of my time in that area. it appeared that about 80% of the businesses were closed. unbelievable, i cant image how long it will take to recover.
 

bonerland citizen

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This Montreal Gazette UN article title is a mindscrew creating the context for you.
Why not "Quebec:like another planet"
Yea Unlike Quebec, Florida does not have Government Ministry of Propaganda.

Always remember Trudeau:
Media sector gets $595-million package in Ottawa's fiscal ...https://www.theglobeandmail.com › politics › article-m...

From Gazette Article "Quebec like another planet" or "Florida like another planet". Either way:

****But the first mention of COVID anywhere in the paper was exactly 18 stories down, with the headline: “Amid Omicron surge, hospitals are stretched thin. What can Florida lawmakers do?”

Among the many stories played far higher up were: “Miami Marlins name managers for minor-league affiliates” and “Microbial contamination in laxative can cause a ‘life-threatening’ infection.”

But that still beats NBC TV’s Florida website that day, which ran this story way ahead of COVID: “Police officer kills dog in Miami-Dade after barking complaint.”

It’s hard to make this stuff up. Meanwhile, in La Presse the same day, the top six stories were about COVID.*****

This is blatant gaslighting.
Montreal Gazette says "It’s hard to make this stuff up"???.... That is code for "Florida is crazy"
Basically the whole Gazette article reads "FLORIDA IS CRAZY"
Media does not decide in Florida what people should fear and prioritize unlike us Quebec cucks.
Plenty of Independent lawyers and doctors to keep checks and balances.
Can't lockdown and intimidate people in a gun state.
Funny I check this article a day before I leave for Florida.
If I get sick I'll post.
 
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My north NJ town just mandated the wearing of masks indoors. And they wonder how Gov Murphy nearly lost in Nov in a deep blue state.

I am somewhat perplexed at the degree of discontent and protests in Paris and the UK, while much of the US and Canada seems quite complacent with vaccine passports and restrictions. I just don’t see the outrage, particularly among the twenty and thirty somethings. Maybe I’m missing it.

I’m usually good for a Montreal trip in Jan and Feb. I can’t believe yet again I’m needing to postpone. I’m likely booking a night or two in Boston and seeing some EE women with a popular national agency up there. Not exactly Montreal but still a good cold weather trip with hockey, casinos and especially hobbying mixed in. So frustrating because I just don’t see an end to this mess in sight. I really don’t. Not with our US and Canadian governments.
You wont be seeing them in the UK anymore. All mask mandates and vaccine madates/passports lockdowns will be no more, Boris finally comes out with common sense admits covid is here to stay just like the flu and well have to learn to live with it just like we do with influenza
 

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You wont be seeing them in the UK anymore. All mask mandates and vaccine madates/passports lockdowns will be no more, Boris finally comes out with common sense admits covid is here to stay just like the flu and well have to learn to live with it just like we do with influenza
Yes, it was his position from the beginning. Maybe if they took that opinion from the start, and tried to work around it, the situation would have been much better. It is clear now that this kind of thinking is gaining ground, and those Pro Vaccine Zealots are starting to sound ridiculous
 
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during my recent visit to montreal, i was very sad to see how many bars, cafes etc seemed to be permanently closed. in my travels, this is by far the worst effect of the pandemic that i have seen. st denis is one of my favorite streets- i usually stay near there and spend most of my time in that area. it appeared that about 80% of the businesses were closed. unbelievable, i cant image how long it will take to recover.
Irreversible
 
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QUÉBEC---LEGAULT ce jour.......déconfinement à petit pas/prudence et en 2 étapes.

-31 JANVIER...Réouverture des restos à 50%/ 4 personnes max ou 2 bulles familiales-----rassemblements privés max 4 personnes ou 2 bulles familiales----reprise des activités de sport aux primaires/secondaires mais sans compétition et spectateurs.

-7 FÉVRIER...Réouverture des salles de spectacle--cinémas--activités sportives MAIS à 50% de capacité et max 500 personnes----réouverture des églises à 50% max 250 personnes----salons funéraires 50 personnes.

C'est une lente route de reprise des activités guidée par l'extrême prudence vue la saturation/situation dans nos hôpitaux.. MAIS au moins on avance... :)
 

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I want to get visa and return to Montreal but covid restriction stopped me. I have already apply for permanent resident canada this stuff. But I hope It will be succesful and I can entry to Canada soon. If you don’t have your PR card yet, but meet all the legal requirements, make sure you finalize the process to receive one. You should never leave Canada without your permanent residence card, otherwise you run the risk of being denied entry.
 
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QUÉBEC ce jour....hospitalisations -117/ 3,152 soins intensifs -17/235 MAIS 56 nouveaux décès o_O o_O o_O ...évidemment la situation s'améliore mais le nombre de décès important/constant doit nous inquiéter sérieusement...o_O
 

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QUÉBEC ce jour....hospitalisations -117/ 3,152 soins intensifs -17/235 MAIS 56 nouveaux décès o_O o_O o_O ...évidemment la situation s'améliore mais le nombre de décès important/constant doit nous inquiéter sérieusement...o_O

ICU holding steady below 319, which is Level 3 max. Still have no idea on new cases, but hospitalizations have not increased by huge amounts. Fingers crossed!!!!
 
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