There are other unknowns like how long complications will last or even how long they take to manifest themselves. Science still doesn`t know how long antibodies last. Mutations should be another concern. What happens in the coming flu season when the common flu starts interacting in people with the coronavirus
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Promising news on a vaccine:
www.bbc.com
Coronavirus: Oxford vaccine triggers immune response
Study shows the vaccine is safe, but it is still too soon to know if it can stop people from being infected.
www.bbc.com
Ronny DeSantis Presser Interrupted by Angry Protesters, he literally is made to stop talking:
www.cnn.com
Protestors interrupt Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis' coronavirus briefing - CNN Video
Florida Governor Ron DeSantis' press briefing on his state's response to the pandemic was met with loud protests, including shouts of "Shame on you Ron DeSantis!"
www.cnn.com
Pfizer Vaccine could be available in 2020! And available to United States citizens at no cost. The US government will own the vaccine if it's approved:
www.cnn.com
US government and Pfizer reach $1.95 billion deal to produce millions of Covid-19 vaccine doses | CNN
The US Department of Health and Human Services and Department of Defense announced on Wednesday a $1.95 billion agreement with Pfizer to produce 100 million doses of a Covid-19 vaccine in the United States. The deal also allows the US government to acquire an additional 500 million doses.
www.cnn.com
US passes the 4 million mark:
nypost.com
US coronavirus cases surpass 4 million
The number of coronavirus cases in the US has surpassed 4 million, with nearly 144,000 Americans now killed by the global pandemic, according to Johns Hopkins University. The grim toll makes the co…
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What concerns me is that some scientists are now saying that antibodies fade after as little as 3 months.
If immunity lasts only a few months then how effective will be herd immunity or even a potential vaccine.
There is so much more to learn about this no ordinary flu .
One solution may lie in discovering how a bat`s immune system works and protects them against so many varieties of virus
If immunity lasts only a few months then how effective will be herd immunity or even a potential vaccine.
There is so much more to learn about this no ordinary flu .
One solution may lie in discovering how a bat`s immune system works and protects them against so many varieties of virus
I was watching an interview with Dr. Birx yesterday and she mentioned that all antibodies fade over time. So I'm not so sure it's a new problem or or if it's one that's always been there.
I think this explains it, although it will fade it doesn't necessarily stop protecting you:
abcnews.go.com
I think this explains it, although it will fade it doesn't necessarily stop protecting you:
Virus antibodies fade fast but not necessarily protection
New research suggests that antibodies the immune system makes to fight the new coronavirus may only last a few months in people with mild illness
abcnews.go.com
^^^^^
The science is encouraging -- our highly evolved bodies will protect us after we train them with the proper vaccines.
www.nytimes.com
Can You Get Covid-19 Again? It’s Very Unlikely, Experts Say
Reports of reinfection instead may be cases of drawn-out illness. A decline in antibodies is normal after a few weeks, and people are protected from the coronavirus in other ways.
. . . .
"People infected with the coronavirus typically produce immune molecules called antibodies. Several teams have recently reported that the levels of these antibodies decline in two to three months, causing some consternation. But a drop in antibodies is perfectly normal after an acute infection subsides, said Dr. Michael Mina, an immunologist at Harvard University.
Many clinicians are “scratching their heads saying, ‘What an extraordinarily odd virus that it’s not leading to robust immunity,’ but they’re totally wrong,’” Dr. Mina said. “It doesn’t get more textbook than this.”
Antibodies are not the only form of protection against pathogens. The coronavirus also provokes a vigorous defense from immune cells that can kill the virus and quickly rouse reinforcements for future battles. Less is known about how long these so-called memory T cells persist — those that recognize other coronaviruses may linger for life — but they can buttress defenses against the new coronavirus.
“If those are maintained, and especially if they’re maintained within the lung and the respiratory tract, then I think they can do a pretty good job of stopping an infection from spreading,” said Akiko Iwasaki, an immunologist at Yale University."
The science is encouraging -- our highly evolved bodies will protect us after we train them with the proper vaccines.
Can You Get Covid-19 Again? It’s Very Unlikely, Experts Say (Published 2020)
Reports of reinfection instead may be cases of drawn-out illness. A decline in antibodies is normal after a few weeks, and people are protected from the coronavirus in other ways.
Can You Get Covid-19 Again? It’s Very Unlikely, Experts Say
Reports of reinfection instead may be cases of drawn-out illness. A decline in antibodies is normal after a few weeks, and people are protected from the coronavirus in other ways.
. . . .
"People infected with the coronavirus typically produce immune molecules called antibodies. Several teams have recently reported that the levels of these antibodies decline in two to three months, causing some consternation. But a drop in antibodies is perfectly normal after an acute infection subsides, said Dr. Michael Mina, an immunologist at Harvard University.
Many clinicians are “scratching their heads saying, ‘What an extraordinarily odd virus that it’s not leading to robust immunity,’ but they’re totally wrong,’” Dr. Mina said. “It doesn’t get more textbook than this.”
Antibodies are not the only form of protection against pathogens. The coronavirus also provokes a vigorous defense from immune cells that can kill the virus and quickly rouse reinforcements for future battles. Less is known about how long these so-called memory T cells persist — those that recognize other coronaviruses may linger for life — but they can buttress defenses against the new coronavirus.
“If those are maintained, and especially if they’re maintained within the lung and the respiratory tract, then I think they can do a pretty good job of stopping an infection from spreading,” said Akiko Iwasaki, an immunologist at Yale University."
If Pfizer’s vaccine is available at or around the same time as AstraZeneca’s that would be huge. For 2020, it’s estimated that 100M doses will be available from each manufacturer. And both vaccines seem to elicit antibody and CD8+ T-cell production which is a big positive as well.
They will just need to ensure that antibody dependent enhancement doesn’t occur with the dose they choose to be manufactured or else we’ll have a much bigger problem on our hands.
Bring in the glory holes for safe sex, just not in Quebec:
www.mtlblog.com
Sorry Everyone, Unlike BC, Quebec Isn't Recommending Glory Holes For Safe Pandemic Sex
Here's what you need to know about having sex right now.
www.mtlblog.com
You can't blame this on us. Borders are closed. The Blue Jays aren't being allowed to play in Canada, yes, but F1 is just a bunch of Eurodudes. Americans don't do F1, it's a strictly Eurodude and Canadian sport. Americans do NASCAR.
It is because the coronavirus is not completely controlled worldwide including in Quebec.
This is still not the time to have thousands in the stands and at bars for a week of uncontrolled mayhem that will result in hundreds of deaths afterwards.
It is good that both Canadians and Eurodudes are smart enough to recognize that.
This is still not the time to have thousands in the stands and at bars for a week of uncontrolled mayhem that will result in hundreds of deaths afterwards.
It is good that both Canadians and Eurodudes are smart enough to recognize that.
2 races in North America. One in Canada and the other in the USA
2 races in South America, One in Mexico and the other in Brazil.
The committee said seeing that the USA, Brazil and Mexico are very dangerous countries for the teams, there is no way they will participate this year.
He would have come to Canada only, because he considers that the management of the pandemic is better controlled. But again, without public, not enough money to be made.
2 races in South America, One in Mexico and the other in Brazil.
The committee said seeing that the USA, Brazil and Mexico are very dangerous countries for the teams, there is no way they will participate this year.
He would have come to Canada only, because he considers that the management of the pandemic is better controlled. But again, without public, not enough money to be made.
Americans still come up for F1. I met tons of Americans who have no idea what they are watching and who anyone is. Americans who just come up during F1 because MTL is hoppin during that weekend.
On a side note, contrary to popular belief F1 weekend is a great time to come to MTL to monger.
Also, maybe they just cancelled it as a public health concern for MTL itself and independent of America, lol
On a side note, contrary to popular belief F1 weekend is a great time to come to MTL to monger.
Also, maybe they just cancelled it as a public health concern for MTL itself and independent of America, lol
Last time I checked that event is held in your country so it’s not the US fault. Sounds more like a you problem.
Joke is on you. The US has successfully had NASCAR, PGA golf, UFC, MLB, and soon to be the NBA. Just because Canada doesn’t want to be troubled with the logistics of hosting the F1 event (along with their only Canadian baseball team) it can’t be put on the USA. Border is still locked down so using the USA as an excuse is weak.
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