Coronavirus
- Thread starter C.B. Brown
- Start date
Health Minister Jean-Yves Duclos announced Friday that Canada will limit travel from seven countries in southern Africa, a region that has reported cases of a new — and possibly more infectious — COVID-19 variant.
Starting today, all foreign nationals who have travelled through South Africa, Namibia, Zimbabwe, Botswana, Lesotho and Eswatini or Mozambique in the last 14 days will be barred from entering Canada.
Canadian citizens and permanent residents will be allowed to return home from these countries but they will be required to wait for the results of a COVID-19 arrival test at a hotel.
If the test is negative, those returning travellers will be released to quarantine for a mandatory 14 days at home. They will also be required to go through a so-called "day eight" test on the eighth day of quarantine.
@ 1.40pm, Canada banned entry of foreign nationals who have travelled through those areas in the last 14 days:
Time will tell, but if it is indeed less deadly, as we all certainly hope.
Chair of South African Medical Association says Omicron cases are mild so far, but it's too soon to determine the risk of severe disease
"We really just need to hold tight to see how this plays out and what our next move is," an epidemiologist at UTHealth School of Public Health said.www.yahoo.com
Then since it is clearly more transmittable, it might be the big chickenpox party that finally ends this when it becomes the really bad cold that everyone has had, or won’t get at all, due to vaccinations.
Germany reports first two cases of Omicron variant
The positive cases, found in a group of around 600 passengers, will be examined to see if they are the new Omicron variant.www.thejournal.ie
If it is more deadly, then the world is going to become a smaller place. Air Canada stock dropped double digits yesterday, and gif know that ain’t the strongest company financially anyway. It is popular to ban outsiders, or Blame Canada as the South Park guys did in an old musical (long before Covid), but there are consequences to isolation. Hopefully when Canada bails out Air Canada it is a grant not a loan, so we don’t have to repay them via higher airfares.
I was listening to a doctor from Harvard that was not trying to grand stand like some media types
Very simply he said "virus like to evolve so as to transmit as much as possible and not kill their host". Hopefully this new variant got the memo.
But to your comment "if it is more deadly", the good news is Moderna and Pfizer have stated they can turn around a modified vaccine quickly. Based on the fact we now have the infrastructure for vaccine distribution, scheduling, administration plus the sanitary mechanisms for passports etc, this will be very different from the early days.
On the Air Canada front, maybe they should make the CEO explain in French why the need the bailout. That will save taxpayers tons of money.
Merck's Covid pill is effective, FDA says. Experts will now review safety.
Merck’s drug would be the first that patients could take at home to ease symptoms and speed recovery.
www.nbcnews.com
Federal health regulators say an experimental Covid-19 pill from Merck is effective against the virus, but they will seek input from outside experts on risks of birth defects and other potential problems during pregnancy.
The Food and Drug Administration posted its analysis of the pill ahead of a public meeting next week where academic and other experts will weigh in on its safety and effectiveness.
The agency isn’t required to follow the group’s advice.
I am not optimistic about this pill.
Well.....really hope it will work...yesterday la FDA a déclaré que ce médicament--malnupiravir---était efficace pour éliminer LES FORMES GRAVES de la maladie....c'est déjà un avancé important . 
I read that too, but then doesn't it make sense that evolution is entirely random?
If the contagiousness of a new variant can outpace the viciousness of it, then why not?
Edit: also there's a chance it may just take longer to kill, while being more infectious. (like AIDs) Or it may not kill but cause more organ damage. We just don't know enough at this stage.
Last edited:
Clearly the "taking boosters shoot" concept failed to achieve desired results and sales, so a new "scare" is required. They are already giving dates for the vaccine against it. Pfizer said 3 months, while Modena thinks early 2022, which is also roughly the same time. Of course, governments need to panic and start measures so that it is taken seriously. Wondering how the passport will be obtained once the propaganda machine rolls on for this variant?
One more good reason not to get vaxxed.
Studies now show that severe covid can cause diabetes . Makes your cum sweet as honey and the girls just can`t help but line up for a taste.
Drug companies can`t lose .....if they can`t sell you their jabs then they`ll sell you insulin instead. Yup listen Franco and C500 and lose your legs and eyesight to diabetes.
Patron what`s your point in bringing up the bad cold comparison again ? Has a bad cold ever shut down an airport or a country ? Bad cold my ass.
Studies now show that severe covid can cause diabetes . Makes your cum sweet as honey and the girls just can`t help but line up for a taste.
Drug companies can`t lose .....if they can`t sell you their jabs then they`ll sell you insulin instead. Yup listen Franco and C500 and lose your legs and eyesight to diabetes.
Patron what`s your point in bringing up the bad cold comparison again ? Has a bad cold ever shut down an airport or a country ? Bad cold my ass.
Buddy, I got the two doses so do not put my name in your post. You do not get it but I am against authoritarianism not against the vaccine. Government is not our parents and they got no business meddling in peoples personal lives. If some people choose to not get vaccinated and they get sick because of their decision then that is on them but the choice to vaccinate has to be for them to make not the government and when I say force that includes coercion like vaccine passports and mandatory vaccines mandated by employers.
Last edited:
Please can you be a bit more dramatic?!?!
It can also cause strokes and other kind of complications If Severe, and so can any other type of flu. Sadly, complications are sometimes created by your own immunity responses to the virus. I was not even discussing the vaccine, which I believe should be taken by those willing. It should not be considered as the miracle solution, and therefore it is necessary that people, especially the young ones, develop natural immunity to it. By forcing the Vaccines (they are many now, and many more to come apparently), they are eliminating that possibility. Some doctors are even of the opinion that if vaccination rates are higher than 40 percent, the variants are inevitable.
Back to what I wrote before, it is more about the exaggerated reactions regarding the Variant, and how Pfizer and Moderna are already capitalizing on it. Furthermore, given some government's reaction, was wondering if the vaccine will be enforced through the passports.
This is not an opinion it is fact stated by the ministry doctors. Passports will be used to verify "proper" vaccination status. "Proper" will evolve over time as new variants emerge and as we know more about things such as vaccine durability.
If I had to guess, I would bet that after the 5-11yo get vaccinated, depending on the rate of success they will slowly do the third doses in descending age groups and spring will roll around, cases will come down and next summer will be fine. Delivery of new vaccines won't arrive before. They won't make status dependant on something we don't have in our hands.
A big part of the population was vaccinated less than 6 months ago, the young is in full swing and third doses to the elderly is progressing. We will be fine. We will see large growth in cases, moderate growth in severe case.
The unvaccinated will remain restricted, by their own decision and/or their inability to deal with facts.
I hope this in not going to be true for long, otherwise, if people' s freedom is taken for long, then expect lots of social unrest. Taking away freedom under whatever's excuses can be tolerated for a while, push it, and people will push back.
This is totally true.
While I am all for vaccination and will get a booster as soon as it is available for me and accept passports as I would much rather have fully vaccinated people sitting next to me in an airplane or restaurant, there is the ever present threat of government controlling your life.
I do not believe in forced vaccination or forced anything, freedom of choice is one of the most precious things in life, if you don’t believe in that try living in China or one of the Middle East countries.
Most people remember how they and their parents lived behind the iron curtain also, there are things worse than a virus that has a 2-10% chance of killing you depending on your age and circumstances.
I don’t think it is a big deal to get vaccinated, it is free, painless, and the logical thing to do, the benefits are far more than the minute chance of side affects but that is a choice people should be free to make.
Personally I`ve made a choice to not take certain vaccines like the common flu or against Shingles.
Certain population protective measures should be government mandated when its backed by the majority.
That includes polio, small pox and covid 19 among others.
I don`t care for seat belt laws and they are more of a hassle than face masks but we all follow the rule. because like masks they save lives
Some don`t give a shit but they are afraid of the fine if the are caught..
Certain population protective measures should be government mandated when its backed by the majority.
That includes polio, small pox and covid 19 among others.
I don`t care for seat belt laws and they are more of a hassle than face masks but we all follow the rule. because like masks they save lives
Some don`t give a shit but they are afraid of the fine if the are caught..
Similar threads
