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Ohhh well take a peek in Africa.
"Follow the science"
Now the scientists are "Mystified"??!!

Scientists mystified, wary, as Africa avoids COVID disasterhttps://apnews.com › ...

My theory is that there are lots of AK47's in Africa.
Africans are not as compliant as us weak obedient westerners so easily locked down and shot up with that vax.
Now this is the AK47's strategy, not to get vaccinated.

The countries of Africa are extremely lucky because they are very poor.

This virus is unpredictable, and dangerous.

Will see...
 

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Ohhh well take a peek in Africa.
"Follow the science"
Now the scientists are "Mystified"??!!

Scientists mystified, wary, as Africa avoids COVID disasterhttps://apnews.com › ...

My theory is that there are lots of AK47's in Africa.
Africans are not as compliant as us weak obedient westerners so easily locked down and shot up with that vax.

One thing for sure is that Africa's median age of 19.7 years is much lower than the Western world of 43.9.

(FYI - 50% of the population lies below the median.)

https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/africa-population/#:~:text=The median age in Africa is 19.7years.




Older people are much more vulnerable to the virus - see deaths by age group:


People older than 50 accounted for 93% of deaths from C19 in the US. Yes, in Africa if you're more than 50, you're considered OLD.

So...no surprise that Africa is showing less deaths from C19. They just don't have that many old people. 50% are younger than 19.7 years old.

And let's not even get into complicating conditions like obesity, diabetes or heart problems.
 
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With new cases soaring to an all-time high of 65,371, leaders of Germany's 16 states agreed after crisis talks with Chancellor Angela Merkel to require those not immunised to provide negative tests in order to use public transport or go to the office.

To protect the most vulnerable, they also agreed to introduce compulsory vaccination for healthcare workers and employees in elderly homes.

"We need to quickly put a brake on the exponential rise" in cases and intensive care bed occupancy, Merkel said, calling the situation "highly dramatic".
 
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Un nouveau variant du virus PLUS CONTAGIEUX et avec des mutations multiples a été détecté en Afrique du Sud......évidemment pas encore dans notre cour MAIS comme on vit dans un univers de plus en plus intime...à suivre.
 
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COVID-19 has hit some countries far harder than others, though differences in the way infections are counted locally make it impossible to make a perfect apples-to-apples comparison.

We want to know where infections are trending up or down relative to the size of the outbreak in each country. So in these charts we use a rolling 7-day average of the new infections countries report each day and compare where that average is now to where it was at its peak.

The percent of that peak a country currently reports gives us a better idea of how far it is from containing the spread of the virus relative to the worst days of its outbreak.
 
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South African scientists have identified a new version of the coronavirus this week that they say is behind a recent spike in COVID-19 infections in Gauteng, the country’s most populous province. It’s unclear from where the new variant actually arose, but it was first detected by scientists in South Africa and has also been seen in travelers to Hong Kong and Botswana.

Health minister Joe Phaahla said the variant was linked to an “exponential rise” of cases in the last few days, although experts are still trying to determine if the new variant, named B.1.1.529 is actually responsible.

From just over 200 new confirmed cases per day in recent weeks, South Africa saw the number of new daily cases rocket to more than 1,200 on Wednesday and to 2,465 a day later.
Struggling to explain the sudden rise in cases, scientists studied virus samples from the outbreak and discovered the new variant.

It appears to have a high number of mutations — about 30 — in the coronavirus’ spike protein, which could affect how easily it spreads to people.
 
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South African scientists have identified a new version of the coronavirus this week that they say is behind a recent spike in COVID-19 infections in Gauteng, the country’s most populous province. It’s unclear from where the new variant actually arose, but it was first detected by scientists in South Africa and has also been seen in travelers to Hong Kong and Botswana.

Health minister Joe Phaahla said the variant was linked to an “exponential rise” of cases in the last few days, although experts are still trying to determine if the new variant, named B.1.1.529 is actually responsible.

From just over 200 new confirmed cases per day in recent weeks, South Africa saw the number of new daily cases rocket to more than 1,200 on Wednesday and to 2,465 a day later.
Struggling to explain the sudden rise in cases, scientists studied virus samples from the outbreak and discovered the new variant.

It appears to have a high number of mutations — about 30 — in the coronavirus’ spike protein, which could affect how easily it spreads to people.

Still very early in this variant's discovery. The real question is how virulent or deadly it can be.

Twitter feed from the Financial Times:

 
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...ce ne serait certainement pas une bonne nouvelle....les yeux sont tourné vers ce nouveau variant.....ET LA FRANCE VIENT DE SUSPENDRE SES VOLS en provenance de l'Afrique australe.......à suivre.
 
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What if this new variant is resistant to vaccines?

Not going to speculate. Avoid the media hype, take a deep breath and let's wait for the word from real experts.


It is early days and the confirmed cases are still mostly concentrated in one province in South Africa, but there are hints it may have spread further.
Immediately there are questions around how quickly the new variant spreads, its ability to bypass some of the protection given by vaccines and what should be done about it.
There is a lot of speculation, but there are very few clear answers.

There have been many examples of variants that have seemed scary on paper, but came to nothing. The Beta variant was at the top of people's concerns at the beginning of the year because it was the best at escaping the immune system. But in the end it was the faster-spreading Delta that took over the world.

This variant seems to give quirky results (known as an S-gene dropout) in the standard tests and that can be used to track the variant without doing a full genetic analysis.
That suggests 90% of cases in Gauteng may already be this variant and it "may already be present in most provinces" in South Africa.
But this does not tell us whether it spreads faster than Delta, is any more severe or to what extent it can evade the immune protection that comes from vaccination.
It also does not tell us how well the variant will spread in countries with much higher vaccination rates than the 24% of South Africa that is fully vaccinated, although large numbers of people in the country have had Covid.
 
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Israel has declared a state of emergency after 3 men who had recently travelled to Malawi where found to be infected with the new South African strain of Covid. The three men had been fully vaccinated.
The new variant has been found to spread easier and faster than Delta. It`s also more prevalent in young adults.
Not yet known if its deadlier than other strains or if it more easily evades boosters. Scary news for the world.

BTW if some of you are wondering why stocks are taking a bloodbath this morning then you can at least partially blame it on fear of this new variant.
 
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Countries around the world moved to restrict travel from southern Africa on Friday in a frantic effort to keep a newly identified, and apparently significantly evolved, variant of the coronavirus from crossing their borders.

The European Commission proposed that its members activate the “emergency brake” on travel from countries in southern African and other countries affected to limit the spread of the new variant.

“All air travel to these countries should be suspended until we have a clear understanding about the danger posed by this new variant,” Ursula von der Leyen, the president of the European Union’s executive arm, said in a statement. “And travelers returning from this region should respect strict quarantine rules.”

In the past, governments have taken days, weeks or months to issue travel restrictions in response to new variants.
This time, restrictions came within hours of South Africa’s announcement — at least 10 countries around the world had announced measures before South African scientists had finished a meeting with World Health Organization experts about the variant on Friday.

Canada?
 
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QUÉBEC ce jour......1037 nouveaux cas o_O ...c'est inquiétant vu la hausse importante ces derniers jours/semaines et à la veille de la période des fêtes......je constate que de plus en plus les gens baissent la garde....attention il n'y a rien de gagner :confused: et

faudra que LEGAULT--DUBÉ le rappellent encore davantage....heureusement que les hospitalisations et soins intensifs demeurent sous contrôle.....MAIS faut vraiment rester sur ses gardes...
 

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Quebec has twice the per capita rate of daily cases as Ontario . Ontario has asked that Canada close flights to and from Sub Sahara Africa but Trudeau so far hasn`t taken action , unlike most of Europe and England. Trudeau is too busy lobbying with African nations for their votes on him being nominated for the chairmanship of the UN ........to be concerned about his citizens health and safety.
 
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Health Minister Jean-Yves Duclos announced Friday that Canada will limit travel from seven countries in southern Africa, a region that has reported cases of a new — and possibly more infectious — COVID-19 variant.

Starting today, all foreign nationals who have travelled through South Africa, Namibia, Zimbabwe, Botswana, Lesotho and Eswatini or Mozambique in the last 14 days will be barred from entering Canada.

Canadian citizens and permanent residents will be allowed to return home from these countries but they will be required to wait for the results of a COVID-19 arrival test at a hotel.
If the test is negative, those returning travellers will be released to quarantine for a mandatory 14 days at home. They will also be required to go through a so-called "day eight" test on the eighth day of quarantine.
 
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OUI... et les ETATS-UNIS viennent aussi d'interdire les vols en provenance de l'Afrique du Sud à compter du 29 Novembre.....le CANADA va sûrement suivre dans les heures qui viennent.
 
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Quebec has twice the per capita rate of daily cases as Ontario . Ontario has asked that Canada close flights to and from Sub Sahara Africa but Trudeau so far hasn`t taken action , unlike most of Europe and England. Trudeau is too busy lobbying with African nations for their votes on him being nominated for the chairmanship of the UN ........to be concerned about his citizens health and safety.

@ 1.40pm, Canada banned entry of foreign nationals who have travelled through those areas in the last 14 days:

 
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Time will tell, but if it is indeed less deadly, as we all certainly hope.


Then since it is clearly more transmittable, it might be the big chickenpox party that finally ends this when it becomes the really bad cold that everyone has had, or won’t get at all, due to vaccinations.


If it is more deadly, then the world is going to become a smaller place. Air Canada stock dropped double digits yesterday, and gif know that ain’t the strongest company financially anyway. It is popular to ban outsiders, or Blame Canada as the South Park guys did in an old musical (long before Covid), but there are consequences to isolation. Hopefully when Canada bails out Air Canada it is a grant not a loan, so we don’t have to repay them via higher airfares.

I was listening to a doctor from Harvard that was not trying to grand stand like some media types

Very simply he said "virus like to evolve so as to transmit as much as possible and not kill their host". Hopefully this new variant got the memo.

But to your comment "if it is more deadly", the good news is Moderna and Pfizer have stated they can turn around a modified vaccine quickly. Based on the fact we now have the infrastructure for vaccine distribution, scheduling, administration plus the sanitary mechanisms for passports etc, this will be very different from the early days.

On the Air Canada front, maybe they should make the CEO explain in French why the need the bailout. That will save taxpayers tons of money.
 
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