COVID's vaccine, by whom, when, effective? all around the vaccine

[Sol Tee Nutz]

Found this in an article today.

The hype surrounding mRNA vaccines has been lucrative for Moderna’s executives. This year, as share prices have soared on the whole and gyrated wildly on day-to-day vaccine news, Moderna insiders have sold more than $250 million worth of stock, according to executive compensation data company Equilar Inc. Bancel has sold more than $18 million since the Covid-19 vaccine program was announced, and investment companies he controls have sold $11 million more. Moderna says sales by executives are triggered by preexisting share-sales plans, and Bancel says the vast majority of his fortune is still tied up in Moderna stock.

Some scientists were particularly annoyed about a press release on May 18 from Moderna announcing “positive interim clinical data.” Its vaccine had produced neutralizing antibodies in the first eight volunteers, but the company didn’t indicate what kind of numbers those antibodies were being produced in, making it hard to judge how promising the results actually were. Moderna’s shares went up 20% anyway, and the company raised $1.3 billion in a secondary stock offering later that day.

 

[gaby]

OBAMA---BUSH---CLINTON ..all ready to get the vaccine FIRST...bravo...as role model....that's leadership .

 

[The Nature Boy]

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2030033

White conservatives like Rush Limbaugh believe white privilege doesn't exist. But the coronavirus pandemic shows the painful divide between white and black Americans.

Coronavirus is not a racist disease — it doesn't discriminate against skin color or economic status. But the society in which we live is racist.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

Found this today

Pfizer chairman Albert Bourla told NBC’s Dateline host Lester Holt that the pharmaceutical company was “not certain” if the vaccine prevented the coronavirus from being transmitted, saying: “This is something that needs to be examined.”

In a prime-time special titled “Race for a Vaccine” set to air Thursday, Holt questioned Bourla and other individuals involved in the development and distribution of the vaccine, according to The Hill.

 

[The Nature Boy]

And?

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

Have someone explain it to you..

If I made a product that I expected billions of people to take I would be certain of all it can do, they have no clue of long term effects, how does this effect very old people, reports are that after some take the first shot they may not want the second one due to the side effects of the first one.
This may save you from seeking assistance.

 

[Fradi]

OBAMA---BUSH---CLINTON ..all ready to get the vaccine FIRST...bravo...as role model....that's leadership .

Three old men not wanting to get sick, how is that being a role model.
I am sure there are millions of old people all over the world who can’t wait to be vaccinated me included don’t need three ex Presidents to set an example over 1.5 million people dying world wide are more than enough.

 

[The Nature Boy]

What is the argument to have SP’s vaccinated before anyone?

 

[The Nature Boy]

Yea, but it goes back to my previous comment......and?

Sure, SP’s do have a lot of interaction with many. But.....what may be lost is that vaccinating a popular SP is just half the battle. Lots of viruses enter the body, don’t cause disease in the infected and clear by themselves. But, can spread and cause disease in others. Hence a SP can get vaccinated not get sick, not go into hospital and die. Add that to the mentality that they are less likely to get really sick requiring hospitalization and die anyway.

In order to have an effect, not only will you have to vaccinate the SP, but also vaccinate the old dude who has diabetes, had 2 stents put in last year and is a fat fuck who goes to see SP’s regularly. Only then will you get the effect you want my luv, that’s even harder to sell concept

There’s a difference between prevention of disease and prevention of transmissibility. You should still get the vaccine, but tell everyone else to get it too.

 

[EagerBeaver]

I have already asked these questions 2, 3 or maybe 5 times in this thread. How is the triage going to work? Who decides on what group gets priority and who goes to the back of the bus or end of the line? How will the priority criteria be developed? I am sure that medical professionals on the Covid team will be making recommendations but the data used to make those recommendations will be closely scrutinized. I believe that there will be numerous "me first" claims from many groups pushed to the back of the bus. There could even be violence and pushing and shoving of vaccinees and vaccinators by those trying to get to the front of the line. Pistols may have to be carried to vaccination sites for self defense. Murder and mayhem may lead to be police getting involved to police vaccination sites.

 

[Fradi]

Money as an allocation mechanism. It works. Just ask any escort who sells sex instead of giving it way for free or at a minimal cost.

I would be fine with that but try selling this to all the bleeding heart leftists.
They would undoubtedly go and get it done ( just like Pelosis hair cut) and most of these political scumbags will be first in line if they want to be anyway no matter what criteria they come up with.

 

[The Nature Boy]

The 1st people who are gonna get it and should are medical personnel and 1st responders who are working over time trying to take care of the flood of people getting sick and dying while fuckers question little things like wearing a mask and undermine them and blaming people like Fauci.

After that, I guess people in long term facilities, older people with co-morbidities.

When and how kids vaccinated is the real question and you don’t wanna dick around with that. It’s one thing for Billiary to say they will publicly take the vaccine. But would they allow their grand kid to be one of the 1st to get the jab when kids are allowed?

 

[Fradi]

What is the argument to have SP’s vaccinated before anyone?

They have my vote.
I believe they belong to the essential services group.

 

[The Nature Boy]

True, they do get undermined as fuck as well, but again, you gotta vaccinate the Johns too, not just the SP’s.

 

[Fradi]

The 1st people who are gonna get it and should are medical personnel and 1st responders who are working over time trying to take care of the flood of people getting sick and dying while fuckers question little things like wearing a mask and undermine them and blaming people like Fauci.

Fauci deserves to be blamed he is a lying Fuck.
Now Biden wants to name him top dog, at least he got practise at being a bobble head to Trump so he is all set.

 

[Fradi]

True, they do get undermined as fuck as well, but again, you gotta vaccinate the Johns too, not just the SP’s.

I don’t have a problem with that.
If I am willing to go and get tested for STD a jab in the arm to keep everyone safe including yourself is the least you can do.

 

[sene5hos]

Yes we can infect another person even if we are vaccinated.
I explain to you:

A person who has the virus coughs on a vacillated person, the vaccinated person will not be infected, but she can transmit the virus by contact because she has received the virus on her.

 

[The Nature Boy]

Fauci deserves to be blamed he is a lying Fuck.
Now Biden wants to name him top dog, at least he got practise at being a bobble head to Trump so he is all set.

Again, I’d have to disagree with you. Some people need to blame people. Fauci for covid, the Chinese for covid, Blm for looting and riots. It’s easy to blame someone for simple minds instead of confronting the root of the problem.

Except Trumpy, he you can surely blame for 3000 dead a day

 

[sene5hos]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/seniors-long-term-care-workers-first-in-line-1.5828720

Seniors, long-term care workers should be first in line for COVID-19 vaccine, committee says.

NACI says the next priority groups should be people over 80 and front line health care workers.

Those most at risk will be getting the first doses of COVID-19 vaccine — including health-care workers, seniors over 70 and adults in Indigenous communities. The process is expected to use all of the initial allotment and be finished by the end of March 2021. 2:03

 

[EagerBeaver]

That's the Canadian triage assessment. We need to see what the American triage is and whether all Americans get vaccinated before we start giving vaccines out to other countries.