COVID's vaccine, by whom, when, effective? all around the vaccine

[ShyMan]

At this point, I will take as many of the vaccines that I can obtain. But I wonder if the different vaccines will counteract with one another, turning me into Frankenstein.

It would be good if my doctor would give me a "certificate" indicating that I've been vaccinated, and that I could use that certificate as a license to travel abroad and come to Montreal.

 

[Robert 21]

At this point, I will take as many of the vaccines that I can obtain. But I wonder if the different vaccines will counteract with one another, turning me into Frankenstein.

It would be good if my doctor would give me a "certificate" indicating that I've been vaccinated, and that I could use that certificate as a license to travel abroad and come to Montreal.

I got the Flu shot.

Yes, a Certificate, or some kind of Paperwork.
Maybe a Tattoo with a Scan Code, I can use to pass through the Airport TSA.
Maybe a computer chip, implanted below the skin.

Give Me something, that Clears Me to Travel.
To get back to Montreal.....


***CLEARED FOR TRAVEL***

 

[Robert 21]

If you pack a really good Igloo Cooler and some extra vaccines, they will let you in whether you have the Paperwork or not.

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[Robert 21]

Canada could approve 1st coronavirus vaccine by end of 2020
https://globalnews.ca/news/7485916/coronavirus-vaccine-rollout-canada-priority-groups/
“The chief medical adviser at Health Canada says Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine candidate could be approved in Canada next month.
Dr. Supriya Sharma said Thursday that Canada has “similar timelines” to the U.S. and Europe for approval of the vaccine being developed by Pfizer and BioNTech...”

Canada still on track for January 2021 vaccine rollout, despite domestic dose disadvantage: feds
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/can...ite-domestic-dose-disadvantage-feds-1.5203890
“OTTAWA -- The federal government is still eyeing January 2021 as the start date for when people in Canada will begin to receive COVID-19 vaccines, despite frustration and concerns levelled at the Liberals by the opposition on Wednesday about Canada’s position in the queue to receive doses.
“At the beginning of next year, in January of 2021, assuming those approvals are given… Canadians will be able to start being vaccinated,” Queen’s Privy Council for Canada and Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs Dominic LeBlanc said in an interview on CTV’s Power Play.
The approvals he is referencing are Health Canada approvals, which will be required before vaccine doses are doled out...”


^^The Trudeau Response to Create/Buy/Negotiate for a Vaccine seems a little slow/late.
He’s not looking out for the People of Canada.




***WILL YOU TAKE THE VACCINE***

 

[EagerBeaver]

Robert 21,

How about Canada open up the border and then we can talk vaccines? What's the quid pro quo?

 

[Fradi]

But I wonder if the different vaccines will counteract with one another, turning me into Frankenstein.

According to most as long as you are respectful, have good hygiene and don’t haggle over prices you are good to go.
Take the vaccines.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

I think Trudeau has a deal to get our vaccine from China, big discount I heard.

 

[Fradi]

How about Canada open up the border and then we can talk vaccines? What's the quid pro quo?

How about the US demonstrates that they have things under control and there are not 200,000 daily new cases and over 2000 deaths then we can look at opening borders. The same goes for Quebec’s dismal record so you guys are not getting a bargain from Quebecers either if the borders are opened.
I would love to see the borders opened we need the American tourists our hospitality sector is getting the shit kicked out of them plus half my family is in the US I havent seen any of them in over 8 months except on FaceTime.
As far as vaccines we need to vaccinate everybody in the world that is willing to take it.
I will take it the first chance I get, just like I get the flu shot.

 

[CaptRenault]

This editorial in the Toronto Sun accuses the Liberals of not having a good plan to distribute a vaccine in Canada. Maybe Trudeau should spend less time on thinking about climate change (and talking to an impersonator of his favorite climate expert, Greta T.) and more time figuring out how to acquire and distribute the vaccine to Canadians.

KINSELLA: Trudeau government dropped the ball with Canada's vaccine plan

Politics is all about symbols. Ask Jimmy Carter.

torontosun.com

...The scandal, as everyone knows by now (or should), is this: our allies are going to start vaccinating their citizens in a matter of days.

The British have more than 1,000 vaccination locations that will be operating seven days a week across Great Britain, starting next week. Two weeks after that, the Americans will commence vaccinating millions of their citizens every single month.

The Germans and other allies, too, will kickstart massive vaccination programs in the month of December.

In Canada, none of that is going to be happening. In fact, in Canada, the federal government can’t even tell us when we will be receiving a life-saving anti-COVID-19 jab.

A deal with China fell through in May. A plan to build a National Research Council vaccine manufacturing facility in Quebec was also a spectacular failure.

And, now, we have now learned that the federal government has no Plan B. We are in line, reportedly, behind 2.5 billion other people in other nations. They will receive the vaccine first. Not us...

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

^^^^^^^ Trudeau blamed Harper in a parliament meeting a couple of days ago.

 

[Robert 21]

Top general to lead vaccine rollout, aims to immunize majority by September: PM
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coron...o-immunize-majority-by-september-pm-1.5207122

“ Canada has tapped former NATO commander Maj.-Gen. Dany Fortin to lead the national vaccine distribution effort, as Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has announced his target of immunizing more than half of all Canadians by September, 2021...”

^^September 2021..Really?!?!
This is Criminal...



***HOW MANY WILL DIE***

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

Deserving IMO

https://www.facebook.com/100043307439825/posts/383568636430048

 

[Fradi]

JT is a spoiled rich kid who never had to sweat a day in his life and got there on his father’s reputation not on his own merits.
He is totally out of touch with people and reality of what an average citizen goes through.
A life of leisure, skiing vacations and summer retreats at billionaire resorts doesn’t exactly prepare you for a Prime Ministers responsibilities neither does a teachers position that he was apparently never good at.
I don’t think most leaders of the world take him too seriously and they can easily take advantage of him.
It is a shame that now people’s lives depend on his ability to secure vaccines, he is the last person I would want to see negotiating on my behalf.

 

[gaby]

CDC votes to recommend health care staff and long term care facility residents get covid-19 vaccine first......bonne décision......probablement le même processus-protocole sera appliqué ici au Québec......finalement it's a good start. .

 

[Robert 21]

Trudeau says vaccines will roll out 'as quickly as possible' after Health Canada approvals
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-vaccine-quickly-health-canada-approvals-1.5823683
“Canada has secured 20 million doses of promising Moderna vaccine found to be 94.1 per cent effective...
As opposition critics and some premiers accuse his government of falling behind on a vaccine distribution plan, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau today sought to reassure the country that his government will be ready to deploy shots soon after they receive the necessary Health Canada approvals.

Trudeau said the independent scientists reviewing the clinical trial data submitted by the drugmakers behind four promising vaccine candidates are working hard to ensure the safety of these products before Ottawa starts shipments...

Speaking to reporters at a COVID-19 briefing, Public Services and Procurement Minister Anita Anand said today the government is planning for vaccines to arrive in the first three months of 2021.
Based on her conversations with the drugmakers, she said, she's hoping a vaccine will be available to Canadians well before the end of March...”


^^Secured 20 million does...are these Available and Paid for? Available end of March...
The one made by Pfizer — needs to be kept extremely cold: minus 70 degrees Celsius, which is colder than winter in Antarctica. Moderna has said that its vaccine needs to be frozen too, but only at minus 20 Celsius, more like a regular freezer.


***TICK TOCK TRUDEAU***

 

[Like_It_Hot]

I don’t think anyone objects to health-care workers getting free shots and being at the front of the line, but I am not too sure how most people will react to the obese getting vaccinated first.

There shouldn't be problem as according to CDC 42% of americans are obese. (2017-2018) Obesity-related conditions include heart disease, stroke, type 2 diabetes and certain types of cancer that are some of the leading causes of preventable, premature death.
source: https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/adult.html

 

[Zaeballo]

^ Up two (or three.) Totally unfair accusations. Obviously it takes time to make a vaccine Loi 101-compliant. Translate the labels, print them in letters twice as big as the English ones, etc. Even Justin deserves a break once in a while..

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

Me just being an ass.
Canada has secured 20 million doses of promising Moderna vaccine found to be 94.1 per cent effective...

99.1 % do not have it, what if the 5.9% are the ones catching it now.

something to think about while sipping the latte and munching a blueberry scone.

 

[sene5hos]

Covid-19: Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine judged safe for use in UK

The UK is the first country to approve the Pfizer vaccine - with 800,000 doses due to arrive soon.

www.bbc.com

Covid-19: Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine approved for use next week in UK

 

[gaby]

That's a great news ....cela va nous permette d'en suivre l'évolution....il y à la fois beaucoup beaucoup d'espoir et aussi d'anxiété......très bonne nouvelle en cette fin d'année misérable.....good hope for a much better 2021.