COVID's vaccine, by whom, when, effective? all around the vaccine

[sene5hos]

Just an example:

For the month of October in Quebec, there were 12 deaths under the age of thirty, death from covid.

11 had received no vaccine, 1 had a dose and 0 was fully vaccinated.

 

[sene5hos]

Here are the vaccines our children have received.

Diphtheria
Tetanus
Whooping cough (pertussis) (DTaP)
Haemophilus influenzae type b disease (Hib)
Polio (IPV)
Pneumococcal disease (PCV13)
Rotavirus (RV)
Chickenpox (Varicella)
Measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR)
Hepatitis A (HepA)
Hepatitis B (HepB)

So why not have children aged 5 to 11 immunized?

 

[minutemenX]

Another word from Robert Malone

Dr. Robert Malone: “This is the Largest Experiment Performed on Human Beings in the History of the World.”

In an exclusive and explosive one-hour interview with Veronika Kyrylenko of The New American, pioneering mRNA scientist Dr. Robert Malone explains the intensely corrupt workings of the government regulatory bodies that have mismanaged the pandemic, discusses the problems with the vaccine program...

thenewamerican.com

The truth is never simple and is not black and white. Yes, the vaccine is generally safe. Generally, is the key word. It is safe for healthy people. For people with some (or many?) background health issues, it might be worse than the virus itself. So, can you mandate these people to risk their life? The problem is that there is practically no study how it effects people with variety of these background issues.

 

[Tweetie]

Another word from Robert Malone

Dr. Robert Malone: “This is the Largest Experiment Performed on Human Beings in the History of the World.”

In an exclusive and explosive one-hour interview with Veronika Kyrylenko of The New American, pioneering mRNA scientist Dr. Robert Malone explains the intensely corrupt workings of the government regulatory bodies that have mismanaged the pandemic, discusses the problems with the vaccine program...

thenewamerican.com

The truth is never simple and is not black and white. Yes, the vaccine is generally safe. Generally, is the key word. It is safe for healthy people. For people with some (or many?) background health issues, it might be worse than the virus itself. So, can you mandate these people to risk their life? The problem is that there is practically no study how it effects people with variety of these background issues.

How can you say the vaccine is safe when we have zero long-term data on it?
I'm not even sure it's safe short term. You see loads of competitive athletes dying of heart problems.
Also I personally know 3 women who had a hard time with the injection. The 30 year old I know was in the hospital for a week. She was highly irritated that the hospital refused to admit it was caused by the shot. The 50 year old I know was in a coma and had her last rites read but has recovered. The 70-year-old died hours after telling me that she was having a bad reaction to the thing.

 

[Nutsinho]

Something unusual happening to many young athletes;

At least 69 athletes collapse in one month, many dead​

At least 69 athletes collapse in one month, many dead

The current phenomenon is also evident if you simply look on Wikipedia at the list of footballers who have collapsed and died. The year 2021 stands out with 13 entries so far. In no other

freewestmedia.com

 

[Nutsinho]

COVID patient left for ‘dead’ recovers after court forces hospital to allow ivermectin treatment​

COVID patient left for ‘dead’ recovers after court forces hospital to allow ivermectin treatment - LifeSite

On Thanksgiving weekend, Sun Ng, a 71-year-old man who spent 22 days on a ventilator with COVID-19, was discharged following a court-mandated successful treatment cycle of ivermectin.

www.lifesitenews.com

 

[gaby]

ONTARIO....va annoncer today que la 3éme dose sera offerte aux 50 ans et plus.....Québec va sûrement suivre.

 

[gaby]

ALLEMAGNE.....vaccination obligatoire dès Février......évidemment ca va grogner....MAIS décision courageuse ...en sont rendu là .....cela doit nous faire réfléchir et apprécier notre sort.....grâce au bon sens/civique de notre population nous n'avons pas

ce dilemne......nos irréductibles de la non-vaccination vivront /assumeront les conséquences de leur décision.....tant pour eux que ceux qui les entourent.

 

[sene5hos]

I also have a story, but it is 100% true.

A woman in her 80s died in an RPA because an attendant had covid and was not vaccinated.

 

[sene5hos]

My children have received all the vaccines, why are you worried about getting the anti-covid vaccine?

I have even more confidence in the anti-covid vaccine than in the old vaccines that are decades old.

 

[Tweetie]

My children have received all the vaccines, why are you worried about getting the anti-covid vaccine?

I have even more confidence in the anti-covid vaccine than in the old vaccines that are decades old.

That's illogical, irrational.
Decades of data demonstrates that traditional vaccines have no long-term significant deleterious effects.
No evidence demonstrates that the new-technique covid injection has no significant deleterious effects in the long term.
So you are basing your viewpoint on faith. That's not science, that's irrational. No scientific data supports your viewpoint.

 

[sene5hos]

Decades of data demonstrates that traditional vaccines have no long-term significant deleterious effects.
So you are basing your viewpoint on faith. That's not science, that's irrational. No scientific data supports your viewpoint.

Traditional vaccines also have a start. I remember back in the time when I was getting a vaccine my arm would get with a big scab.

I apologize but I'm not a conspirator, so I believe in science.

 

[Tweetie]

Traditional vaccines also have a start. I remember back in the time when I was getting a vaccine my arm would get with a big scab.

I apologize but I'm not a conspirator, so I believe in science.

You believe in faith, not science. You have demonstrated this in your illogical approach, demonstrated above.

The new variant is the transformation of covid to the common cold anyway, as virologists have predicted from the start.

Getting an injection with unknown long-term effects was an unnecessary risk to yourself and your children.

 

[Fradi]

The new variant is the transformation of covid to the common cold anyway, as virologists have predicted from the start.

Now you are doing the exact same thing, There is not enough evidence yet to support this claim.
It would be great news if the new variant would be similar to nothing more than a mild to bad cold, that would be better than even the vaccines, but it is way too early to make that claim.

 

[Tweetie]

Now you are doing the exact same thing, There is not enough evidence yet to support this claim.
It would be great news if the new variant would be similar to nothing more than a mild to bad cold, that would be better than even the vaccines, but it is way too early to make that c"laim.

If you did your due diligence and read up on the science from the start, you would have come across the fact that these viruses morph to become less deadly and more transmissible.
I've studied the facts on covid carefully from the start, as my profession requires rigorous questioning of assertions in a factual, analytical way.
Omicron is harmless and will continue to be harmless and will likely supplant delta now, so the party is over for shamelessly authoritarian politicians running errands for big pharma.
Hopefully you have at least made some money in the shares of the big pharma companies that have cashed in on this madness.
I cross my fingers that these new injections have no long-term negative effects because even if 2% or 5% of people who took these injections suffer long-term issues, it will be devastating and become a far larger problem than covid ever was.

 

[Fradi]

^^^^
Thanks I always do well with stocks that is because I have great advisors.
Making a claim that Omicron is nothing but a bad cold after 1 week of the alarms going off is called due diligence to you , wow.
These vaccines have now been in millions of arms for over 2 years not 1 week.

 

[sene5hos]

You believe in faith, not science. You have demonstrated this in your illogical approach, demonstrated above.

The new variant is the transformation of covid to the common cold anyway, as virologists have predicted from the start.

Getting an injection with unknown long-term effects was an unnecessary risk to yourself and your children.

I believe in science because I'm a scientist. I have worked all my life in medical research laboratories.

I would tend to think that I speak in knowledge of causes. I would have a very strong tendency to think that the most illogical of the 2 is not me.

And finally, there is nothing I can do if you are very fearful.

 

[wetnose]

If you're so afraid of "long-term" effects, go to google.com and look up documented long term, widespread and persistent effects from ANY vaccine EVER made.

Go ahead, I'll wait.

Spoiler: there's none. There weren't huge swaths of people who died or had medical problems from the vaccines created for yellow fever, mumps, chicken pox, shingles, TB...you name it.

By design, vaccines are designed to deliver their little bit of information for the immune system and disappear. That's it. That's why the C19 vaccines were approved so quickly (compared to typical medicines), since any side effects would have shown up during the trial period. Here's an expert on the subject:

Three things to know about the long-term side effects of COVID vaccines

Many Americans say they want to “make sure the shot is safe” before getting vaccinated. That data is already in, and it is overwhelming.

www.uab.edu

 

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Now you are doing the exact same thing, There is not enough evidence yet to support this claim.
It would be great news if the new variant would be similar to nothing more than a mild to bad cold, that would be better than even the vaccines, but it is way too early to make that claim.

Fradi you are almost "right on the dot" on this one. But there are caveats
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What we know now:
1- The main concern is still the Delta-Variant and vaccination should be our main goal for now
2- The Omicron seems to be more contagious than delta
3- The Omicron might be less effective in causing severe disease or death (no sufficient datas yet)
But those datas are from the epidemiology in Southern Africa which we know is different from the one in Northern America (Canada and USA)
4- IF 2 and 3 are true (we might know in 3-4 weeks, for America) than, it way with time replace the delta. Caveat: how long will it take, months, years?
5- IF 2 and 3 are false, our present hope is that the vaccines will keep their great efficiency or a good one. The near future hope would be that we can get a tweaked vaccine to improved efficiency if or when needed. But it would take 6-12 months to develop, test, approve and administer those vaccines. The problem remains with unvaccinated people.
6- In USA there are still 900 daily deaths, on Covid, almost all from delta-variant
7- It is not clear this omicron will replace delta in America. If effects are milder it's a "sort of a good news". Vaccination remains the best thing now.

As you concluded: "but it is way too early to make that claim". The next month should bring a lot of new knowledge for those who care for the true information. Not for those posting debunked propaganda from Malone and similar and not having any consideration for truth.

 

[Fradi]

I agree, for now Delta is our main worry and vaccines still seem to work quite well to prevent hospitalization and death.
Omicron may be a blessing or the devil in disguise and it is way to early to tell.

I don’t exactly put all my trust on news from South Africa either as they have a vested interest in maintaining trave, trade and tourist dollars.
I am not saying they are lying just nothing concrete or enough information from the rest of the world to prove anything yet one way or the other.
Until, then continuing vaccinations as rapidly as possible, wearing masks and maintaining distances are proven ways to slow the spread.