It is not the same, I am not a public service. The whole population is not my clientele. People have no right to access me, so no you can't compare our service to the one of a plumber. In real life, we refuse to sleep with someone because "he's not that cute", and it's perfectly fine. Women can refuse to sleep with anyone they wish, for any reason they want. After that, if they are racists, they still have the same right to refuse to sleep with someone.
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Being in an agency, it might be their only way to avoid certain things. Not that I agree; blanket statements are always bad and white men can be young stupid proxénètes too. I can only guess that if they were independent, they could screen themselves and judge clients by their attitude, the words they use, and the requests if someone is up to their standards, regardless of their race. I can only hope that clients being black or indian wouldn't matter if they could screen the client beforehand; we all know as independents what a message with a pimp-vibe looks like, and it's not because of the client's skin colour. I do want to avoid problems, they do tend to go away mostly with age restrictions, a higher rate and a thorough screening, something they can't do.
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So when i say No black or No Indians........that is not broad brushing...Ok so if you read a sign no girls allowed and you are a girl...does that mean certain yes and certain no
Whhhaaaatttttt? check Euphoria page and tell me what ethnicities mostly have these restrictions? I bet you will see a pattern here. Also even if this were true...do all black and all Indians know each other...its that even more deeper stereotyping
They’re not hiring a plumber, they’re spending intimate moments with someone. You might say it’s all about money, sure, but these ladies are not robots. They’re human beings that have feelings and still need to feel comfortable with who they see.
I’ve heard some horror stories from some SPs about some clients’ behaviour. Not race related, I’m just talking in general.
So I can understand why some SPs go Indy! Besides other obvious benefits, they can choose which clients they want to repeat with.
I’m know I’m stating the obvious, but it’s not like other professions! There’s intimacy involved!!
What I posted is 100% true. You are questioning the logic, it doesn't matter!!!!! This isn't a fucking test at school it's the lady's body and HER perception of discretion. YOUR PERCEPTION OF DISCRETION/LOGIC DOESN'T MATTER, and whether hers is logical or correct also doesn't matter. It is what it is. I have met many ladies that gave that rationale. One I recall was Asian from a specific community and didn't see any Asians at all. For discretion reasons. She didn't want to run into someone who knew her and her occupation get revealed.
Sorry but if you think getting " the business" a couple of times a day makes one authentic in this profession, you are really naive. They are all actors who fake it. You can't enjoy sex even if you really want to when you are doing it 4 or x times per day with people you do not have an emotional entanglement with for x number of days per week. Nobody is going to convince me of that. Human beings with feeble and i'd even say normal feeling thresholds are not supposed to enter this profession...just like you can't be a doctor if you hate the sight of blood or are a racist or hate people. To be an escort, you got to transcend mind and body and create a certain dissociation. ...not my words but according to many Psy studies, and thus a certain individual can have sex with many people without having the emotional entanglements involved in normal relationships. I am not naive here too by thinking that some ESC will have some entanglement at the emotional level with a selective few of her numerous clients, but their experience will afford them to dissociate from them faster than if they were in a normal relationship....but that is case by case. I think the clients are the problem. They think for xxx $ they are buying some real meaningful relationship when all that they are really doing is just going to get "fornicated " and trying to build upon the the GF experience at the same time. Sadly the clock will bring you back to reality when your time is up..or you can end up a sicker enslaving yourself and your wallet on a certain ESC trying to make real what you seem to be enjoying...and the ESc is happy to play along. And then Clients are not that mentally prepared like ESCs....and that is what the business is all about ..like many others right..making people believe in that realism so that they spend......" The GFE" experience...greatest word invented in the Escort world
I can't read past that. This is stupid. Stop reading anti-sexwork books.
But they are still fully booked right ? While I understand why it must be infuriating, I think they are in a position to do that. Whether it's because of a past experience, a personal preference or just because it allows them to be more at ease, I think the word racism is badly used here. They might have friends of different ethnicities, heck they might hang out with guys of different ethnicities but in this line of work they are allowed to have some choice of freedom.
Same thing as those who don't do duo or girls. Do you see couple or girls complaining about sexism or ageism ?? The racism card is called upon way too often imo.
Same thing as those who don't do duo or girls. Do you see couple or girls complaining about sexism or ageism ?? The racism card is called upon way too often imo.
I think aside from women who don't want to be recognized by members of their community, I agree that racism should not be allowed. I also think it's a problem within the sex industry, both on clients and SP sides. However I disagree that "to be an escort you have to create a certain dissociation"... WTF? I don't refuse clients based on race because I think racism is unacceptable, but I allow myself the right to refuse men if they are unpleasant, rude, have bad hygiene, cross boundaries, etc. I can't just see ANYONE. A lot of indies have a policy against discrimination and the fact that agencies allow that, probably because the owners are racist themselves (among other things), just says a lot! But of course agencies are so much greater (irony)
To be completely transparent. I find those “no black gents, no indians” warning racist however it is true that they’re allowed to see who they want. It’s their body after all. Their decision makes them racist in my eyes but I respect it in a way.
That is really the most concise and precise way of summarizing the situation.
The question is not whether "no Blacks or Indians" is racist or not. For sure it is! Racism is discrimination based on race.
The question is whether in the context of the supremely intimate act of a sexual relationship a woman is allowed to discriminate based on race. Many seem to agree that yes.
I wish that it wasn’t like that and that they would be open to all men.
However these women do have the right to choose who they sleep with just like you do.
I don’t particularly like the way you are describing these women as if they were a piece of meat to be used by anyone any time.
I would hope that they would not provide service to anyone that talks about them as you do, regardless of what ethnicity you belong to.
I find it so funny that the only time you guys want to address racism in this industry is when y’all don’t get to fuck the white girl you thirst over.
Yet you won’t budge or even stand up against* the discrimination of sex workers of color.
Not for lmao sorry
Yet you won’t budge or even stand up against* the discrimination of sex workers of color.
Not for lmao sorry
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I'm totally screwed once they start listing "No ugly men" as a restriction...
A lot of the posters posting about racism have very entitled and misogynistic attitudes. They believe escorts need to transcend any concerns about discretion, safety, welfare and race. They believe they are entitled to be serviced and that you are there to deliver a service.
I remember years ago I saw an SP who had a 180 pound weight restriction. At the time, I weighed 175 and could see her; now I am well over 180 and would fail the weight restriction. Overfiend and his fellow protectors of the "entitlement to service" would say she was prejudiced against fat men. Racist against the obese.
In fact, when I met her she told me she had a disc issue in her back and couldn't take a good pounding, much less a vigorous one. I said to her, "funny, but all I ever ask for is blow jobs, so there would not have been any pounding and my weight wouldn't have nattered." She laughed and said she welcomed me to put on some weight. Which I have since then, without having to be asked, LOL!
Couple of things:
1. Who a woman (or man) chooses to see is absolutely no one else's business. Publicly or privately. Whether it is something that she keeps to herself or publicly shares, still no one else's business.
2. Unless you've been a woman in this world, let alone a sex worker, do you really have any idea or experience the shit woman go through? Men at best are obtuse in this manner and cannot relate even with the best of intentions, regardless of age.
3. One bad/unsafe/aggressive/rude or disrespectful experience can traumatize a person for life.
4. This whole debate is not about discrimination or specifically racism. It is about respecting a persons' choice and boundaries (even if you can't relate or understand). Simply Show some respect and move on... You are not applying for a job, you are asking another human being to share time, intimacy and sex with you... Kinda not the same.
5. Do you really think that an agency would publish this information if it wasn't for the comfort and peace of mind of their ladies? They are willing to filter in the interest of safety and comfort levels (and yes I personally have known some sex workers over the years that were robbed at gunpoint/knife and aggressively touched or "manhandled").
Scarred for life.
6. There is definitely a statistical correlation between certain cultural groups (not just skin colour) and general behaviour/approach to women. Sorry, but true. I also know women who won't see Greek or Italian men (and they are white btw).
7. Don't we/you have more important things to do?
8. Finally, a harsh truth, just because you have an opinion, doesn't mean its valid or true. Too many people in general talking yet no one actually saying anything meaningful.
1. Who a woman (or man) chooses to see is absolutely no one else's business. Publicly or privately. Whether it is something that she keeps to herself or publicly shares, still no one else's business.
2. Unless you've been a woman in this world, let alone a sex worker, do you really have any idea or experience the shit woman go through? Men at best are obtuse in this manner and cannot relate even with the best of intentions, regardless of age.
3. One bad/unsafe/aggressive/rude or disrespectful experience can traumatize a person for life.
4. This whole debate is not about discrimination or specifically racism. It is about respecting a persons' choice and boundaries (even if you can't relate or understand). Simply Show some respect and move on... You are not applying for a job, you are asking another human being to share time, intimacy and sex with you... Kinda not the same.
5. Do you really think that an agency would publish this information if it wasn't for the comfort and peace of mind of their ladies? They are willing to filter in the interest of safety and comfort levels (and yes I personally have known some sex workers over the years that were robbed at gunpoint/knife and aggressively touched or "manhandled").
Scarred for life.
6. There is definitely a statistical correlation between certain cultural groups (not just skin colour) and general behaviour/approach to women. Sorry, but true. I also know women who won't see Greek or Italian men (and they are white btw).
7. Don't we/you have more important things to do?
8. Finally, a harsh truth, just because you have an opinion, doesn't mean its valid or true. Too many people in general talking yet no one actually saying anything meaningful.
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I don’t know what brought this on but I hope you understand that most men will not stand in a picket line to advocate discrimination against sex workers of colour or any sex workers.
Just like most escorts hide it from their friends and family, most men don’t exactly want to advertise that they are seeing escorts either for many reasons.
Apart from that many of us don’t discriminate against any women.
Lmao if he’s a bit self aware he’ll realize his attitude his why he’s not able to book with anyone. What a nightmare. This guy shouldn’t even be allowed to get serviced for our security. Just the way he talks about us, why would any sp risk seeing him…
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