Do you support the idea of compensating a service provider without the agency's knowledge, or do you oppose it?

[Obvio-0bvio]

Have you ever been provided with a service provider's phone number for payment outside of their agency? Do you find this practice appropriate or object to it? I have experienced this on several occasions where service providers have shared their contact details for discreet meetings outside of agency involvement. I disagree with it because it makes me uneasy to take away the agency's rightful commission.I strongly believe that there are many agencies that firmly disapprove of the clandestine practice of meeting with clients without the agency's knowledge. I am proceeding this topic with caution as I am interested to know whether or not you have ever encountered a service provider without the knowledge of the agency. I'm wondering if you've given it a try and if you think it's worthwhile. Additionally, I'd like to know if you approve of this approach or if you have objections to it.

 

[envelopes]

No, never. It is against the rules and we should be fair to agencies.

If an SP ever offered me their number, I would slap their phone out of their hand and tell them to leave.

We should never mess with the agencies' business. We should be grateful that they connect us with such talent and without their help, I would still be a virgin.

I strongly object and if any hobbyist has gotten an SPs number, you should block it and never do something like that again. Shame!!!!!!

 

[Obvio-0bvio]

No, never. It is against the rules and we should be fair to agencies.

If an SP ever offered me their number, I would slap their phone out of their hand and tell them to leave.

We should never mess with the agencies' business. We should be grateful that they connect us with such talent and without their help, I would still be a virgin.

I strongly object and if any hobbyist has gotten an SPs number, you should block it and never do something like that again.

I completely concur with your viewpoint, although I also oppose it. However, regardless of personal preference, both clients and service providers engage in such behavior. It would be unjust for the agency to forfeit their commission.

 

[envelopes]

I completely concur with your viewpoint, although I also oppose it. However, regardless of personal preference, both clients and service providers engage in such behavior. It would be unjust for the agency to forfeit their commission.

Completely unjust. It is a travesty. Shame!

 

[Fradi]

So it is a crime to bypass the pimp er agency lol.
Dont know never use agencies don’t like middlemen not even Indy’s that have a booker.

 

[Obvio-0bvio]

So it is a crime to bypass the pimp er agency lol.
Dont know never use agencies don’t like middlemen not even Indy’s that have a booker.

In my opinion, the matter pertains to showing respect for the agency,it's an unfair tactic. Remember that agencies go through a lot of trouble to acquire high-quality service providers, and sometimes they even compensate individuals who bring in new service providers to the agency. I presume that the agency incurs both financial losses and risks losing a prospective client who might schedule other services providers with the same agency.

 

[Obvio-0bvio]

In my earlier days, although I was given many phone numbers, I abstained from making any calls out of respect for the agency . In the past, I established a personal bond with the owners of a certain agency’s that could have led to a precarious scenario if ever I came across one of their female service provider’s without their awareness. The magic of our time with John from Eleganza and his service providers created many pleasant memories. I remember that John was very picky with his clients and he had the most gorgeous service providers. To the extent of my memory, there were no available service providers as they were completely booked since the previous day. Booking in advance with Eleganza was the usual method, unless you had a direct friendship with John, in which case arranging for a service provider was no issue . My friendship with John remains strong, and our friendship persists. He remains within my circle of Facebook friends so far. I agree wholeheartedly with your worry about liaising with service providers without the agency's knowledge as it could prove to be a disadvantageous move. Selecting the agency is a prudent decision as it guarantees your well-being and protection. I know someone who went through a comparable situation where they were setup and robbed of their cryptocurrency wallet at gunpoint. However, I won't elaborate on the details.

 

[xooxxo]

I strongly object and if any hobbyist has gotten an SPs number, you should block it and never do something like that again.

There are reasons to get an SPs number that has nothing to do with cutting out the agency. A popular one, who is hard to book, at an agency that famously doesn't publish their schedule in advance , gave me her number so I could ask her for it and pre-book her. Agency still gets their cut, I'm guaranteed to get to see her and she gets to see a client she (presumably...) likes.

 

[envelopes]

There are reasons to get an SPs number that has nothing to do with cutting out the agency. A popular one, who is hard to book, at an agency that famously doesn't publish their schedule in advance , gave me her number so I could ask her for it and pre-book her. Agency still gets their cut, I'm guaranteed to get to see her and she gets to see a client she (presumably...) likes.

I'll allow it

 

[envelopes]

I know one merbite who told me privately that he went out with a Ganza girl outside of the agency. He got robbed at gunpoint when they went out. He suspected he was set up.

Where the hell did they go out to? I would stick to big restaurants and hotels

 

[Cap'tain Fantastic]

It happened a few times, I did partake when it was to the girl's AND my advantage. I couldnt care less about the pimp/agency/mp fidelity bs. Yes, obviously, the girls offering it are on their way to become Indy, I dont have any objections to it, its her body and a free market.

 

[Fradi]

In my opinion, the matter pertains to showing respect for the agency,it's an unfair tactic. Remember that agencies go through a lot of trouble to acquire high-quality service providers, and sometimes they even compensate individuals who bring in new service providers to the agency. I presume that the agency incurs both financial losses and risks losing a prospective client who might schedule other services providers with the same agency.

My heart breaks for these agencies lol. They are in it for one purpose only $$$$.
Most Indys will tell you that they are not the friendly fatherly type of people and that they are much better off going it alone.
For sure there might be some that treat their girls decently, I wouldn’t know, I don’t use them.

 

[malboro_man]

My friendship with John remains strong, and our friendship persists. He remains within my circle of Facebook friends so far. I agree wholeheartedly with your worry about liaising with service providers without the agency's knowledge as it could prove to be a disadvantageous move. Selecting the agency is a prudent decision as it guarantees your well-being and protection. I know someone who went through a comparable situation where they were setup and robbed of their cryptocurrency wallet at gunpoint. However, I won't elaborate on the details.

Good to hear John is doing well. I mentioned Ganza as they are no longer around and the former Ganza girls have all moved on. So, no damage done.

Sorry for your friend's robbery.

Like I said, no one can stop girls from giving out their numbers and doing side gigs.

 

[malboro_man]

Where the hell did they go out to? I would stick to big restaurants and hotels

I think they went to a park at night after dinner. At least the guy didn't get shot but only had a gun pointed at him!

 

[minutemenX]

There were and probably still are instances when the same SP has been working for two agencies simultaneously. Some also work as an Indy and for the agency. Why the agency should be concerned what the girl is doing in her private time when she is not on the schedule? Some girls indeed feel uncomfortable not to share with the agency and give me their number only to facilitate the booking. Some, including several of my former ATFs, suggested moving to private booking when they started to feel secure. I don’t choose or push, they make this decision themselves and I don’t see any problem with that.

 

[Obvio-0bvio]

There were and probably still are instances when the same SP has been working for two agencies simultaneously. Some also work as an Indy and for the agency. Why the agency should be concerned what the girl is doing in her private time when she is not on the schedule? Some girls indeed feel uncomfortable not to share with the agency and give me their number only to facilitate the booking. Some, including several of my former ATFs, suggested moving to private booking when they started to fill secure. I don’t choose or push, they make this decision themselves and I don’t see any problem with that.

While I agree with your perspective, it must be noted that there are differing opinions on the matter. Some may argue that the service provider in question is taking away agency clients, while others may argue that the client is taking away the service provider and leaving the agency with no commission. Alternatively, certain individuals may contend that the escorts agency functions as a platform for dating, as it involves remunerating for such services. As I previously mentioned, this is a highly sensitive topic that has generated numerous debates from various perspectives.

 

[Shantie_mtl]

My worst customer was in the agency ... 9/10 was almost traumatisant ...

 

[Bobby_]

Let’s say the conditions are all the same (safe and clean place and same services) and same price, I would rather her to get the most of it.The advantage of agency is safety. But in the end she’s the one doing the hard work. If you trust her why not? If on average an agency charge 250$ / hr, how much do they keep and how much the girl keep? I think there’s reason a lot of girls when they build trust with clients switch to Indy...

 

[Fradi]

Whether you like it or not the agency basically is a pimp perhaps not your movie strong arm type anymore but they make their money off the girls.
If a girl decides to go it on her own why should that be a problem for you. Does the agency own her ?
Sorry but it is the girls decision whether or not she wants to book through the agency and give them their cut or not. It is her life, her body and her choice, end of story.
I will respect what the lady wants if she wants to be booked through the agency so be it if not I am fine with it.

 

[Obvio-0bvio]

Whether you like it or not the agency basically is a pimp perhaps not your movie strong arm type anymore but they make their money off the girls.
If a girl decides to go it on her own why should that be a problem for you. Does the agency own her ?
Sorry but it is the girls decision whether or not she wants to book through the agency and give them their cut or not. It is her life, her body and her choice, end of story.
I will respect what the lady wants if she wants to be booked through the agency so be it if not I am fine with it.

I concur with your viewpoint, my friend, that a woman has the right to choose what she does with her body. However, there are those who argue that she is taking away the clients' agency, which is a significant concern. Undoubtedly, she possesses the capability to act independently and pursue her own objectives, but she must seek out and cultivate her own clientele. I have knowledge of this topic as it was discussed by a service provider with her agency boss couple of years ago.