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Do you support the idea of compensating a service provider without the agency's knowledge, or do you oppose it?

Do you support or oppose it?

  • Support

    Votes: 25 55.6%
  • Oppose it

    Votes: 6 13.3%
  • Don’t care

    Votes: 17 37.8%

  • Total voters
    45

Cap'tain Fantastic

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Its not the agencies that brings the customers in, its the girls. So the clientele is there because the girl gives a good experience, and she can, moraly speaking, claim that these johns are her clients, not the agency's.Proof of this is when a girl switch agency, her regulars keep seeing her and post reviews on her.
 

Shantie_mtl

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... why I will need somebody to book my schedule ... I have google calender and a phone... I don't need to be compare or obligate myself to do anything .. I got so nice experience in my bissnes like indépendant..... in agency been almost traumatised.. seriously I got so wrong experiences.. why book a price... .I dont remember to have at good experience at all.. been to motel ....... i dont miss it ... been refuse lol... and the agency owner (stop the agency)is a good friend and really respectful... book directly !!!!! A chat between 2 human ... sex is so intimate... ****** make some corrections because was too early... but please stop to say agency is the best.. I will not say anything more because probably the majority of person here gonna still book agency ..
 
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Fradi

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I concur with your viewpoint, my friend, that a woman has the right to choose what she does with her body. However, there are those who argue that she is taking away the clients' agency, which is a significant concern. Undoubtedly, she possesses the capability to act independently and pursue her own objectives, but she must seek out and cultivate her own clientele. I have knowledge of this topic as it was discussed by a service provider with her agency boss couple of years ago.
I am not one of those that would argue that view point.
They keep coming back to see her not the agency if they repeat with her. , and the ones that keep coming back because of the agency well great for the agency it shows that they are doing something right.
I don’t have an axe to grind against any agencies as some provide a good starting point for these ladies, but ultimately it is their choice and they are the reason men go to these agencies.
 

Shantie_mtl

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I am not one of those that would argue that view point.
They keep coming back to see her not the agency if they repeat with her. , and the ones that keep coming back because of the agency well great for the agency it shows that they are doing something right.
I don’t have an axe to grind against any agencies as some provide a good starting point for these ladies, but ultimately it is their choice and they are the reason men go to these agencies.
The really its because they thing they are more safe lol but not at all.. and why just don't have a page to learn the girls who start .. than take their vulnérability to make money on them... they almost all 20-25 years old at this age youre supose to start your sex life.. not to be pay
 

Fradi

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The really its because they thing they are more safe lol but not at all.. and why just don't have a page to learn the girls who start .. than take their vulnérability to make money on them... they almost all 20-25 years old at this age youre supose to start your sex life.. not to be pay
I don’t think that a girl is safer with an agency than on her own actually quite the opposite.
I think a smart indépendant does a much more stringent screening process than agencies do and she has the option to refuse anybody she wants.
They do however take care of bookings and transportation or an incall facility so there are some advantages and to some extent they are justified in having a cut of the pie.
 

Shantie_mtl

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I don’t think that a girl is safer with an agency than on her own actually quite the opposite.
I think a smart indépendant does a much more stringent screening process than agencies do and she has the option to refuse anybody she wants.
They do however take care of bookings and transportation or an incall facility so there are some advantages and to some extent they are justified in having a cut of the pie.
Less pression ... if you don't feel you don't work.. If you want to pass.. you pass.. I have usually good intuition I know my good match
 
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Anong

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I never booked the agency girl without agency because no girl offered me such thing!!!??
I rarely see any girl through agency. Kind of always comfortable with independent.
 

Gazoo64

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If it was offered to me and it’s advantageous for the SP and myself, I would definitely think about it. It’s the girls that do the work and bring clients to the agencies.

It would probably be less rushed and the time would be mutually beneficial (wouldn’t have to rely on a tight agency schedule in which the ladies are booked back to back to back, sometimes without breaks, difficult to book, etc).

Of course, presently I always deal with the agencies, since everything is setup (schedule, incall) and it just takes a couple of texts to get an appointment.

Just saying that if it’s outside the agency time, then the SP should be free to do what she wants. I’m sure the agencies are fully booked anyway, so it’s not like it will affect their business!
 

Halloween Mike

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It happened a few times i got infos from the girls, either a phone number or social medias. In most case it would be just in case she move elsewhere or disapear (and only kept seeing a few clients on the side but without ads on the internet etc). Sometimes its also a good way to have the SP let me know wich day in advance she plan on working so i can book trough the agency but at least i know before when she will be working.

Some girls work ocasionally in agencies but have their regulars as indy. They don't want to go the trouble of putting ads, answering strangers etc, but once they know someone its fine to book themselvs. But if they need an "extra round" they get list on the agency website.

Personally i said it multiple time, i prefer to book trough agencies cause its so much faster and easier (in general). Also the price gap with most indies does play a part too. But i may go out of my way sometimes to meet an indy. Altough i will admit so far i have refrain from even trying to book anybody requiring deposits. I won't do internet transfer. Gift card COULD be ok with me if the indy in question is very trusted (many great reviews, high reputation etc) but even that is an extra step thats a bit bothering to make. Having to go to a store, find the gift card she want, sending her numbers etc. And what if she cancel due to emergency? Im so rarely in Montreal that "puting it trough another appointement" is not an option for me.

A question for the indies tough, and you can DM me if you want, it will remain between us, is the deposit rule completely "in cement" or exeptions can be made? Like switching etransfer to a gift card or even just giving a no deposit pass in the case of someone very known and reliable? Curious.

At least with agencies i just take my good ol cash to Montreal and thats it.
 

Obvio-0bvio

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What do you mean Indy's that have a booker? Like an assistant? If you have a booker like someone that gets you clients then I don't think you're independent
One of the notable advantages of independent service providers is that you can directly engage with them without the involvement of a booker or agency. Opting for Indy escorts offers a greater level of privacy, as you are dealing directly with the service provider themselves. There is no need to feel guilty about bypassing the agency in order to connect with the SP directly. This distinction between Indy service providers and agencies is a significant positive aspect to consider.
 

annabellerileyx

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One of the notable advantages of independent service providers is that you can directly engage with them without the involvement of a booker or agency. Opting for Indy escorts offers a greater level of privacy, as you are dealing directly with the service provider themselves. There is no need to feel guilty about bypassing the agency in order to connect with the SP directly. This distinction between Indy service providers and agencies is a significant positive aspect to consider.
I work in this industry and don't need it explained to me. What I'm asking about is someone saying "Indy with a booker" because if you have someone booking you clients you're not independent. I'm clarifying what they meant, like if they mean an assistant which isn't a booker.
 
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Obvio-0bvio

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say hi to john from Oliver kloseoff.He reminded me of Vin Diesel.i think i inspired him and a number of others to train.
met john at a few gts had drinks with him.id picked up 1 of his girls off the clock at a bar unknown to me and he contacted me to say hey you banged 1 of my girls i said i don't think so he sent me pictures which i still have yup
Dayna naka Roxanne.Back in the day when i ws considered the next best thing to slidced bread many agency owners offered me girls for free>I used to hang with "Jessy of montreal sex city and celine celine fantasy owner and ''pete''satin dreams.Big guy Kevin x football player like myself he owned aboyt 5 gencies had a office on william for a bit.
It is a well-known fact that agency owners often despise the idea of service providers seeing clients without their knowledge. This issue has consistently caused disputes and conflicts between the agency owners and the service providers. I must truly admire the remarkable work done by John at Elengenza. The agency eventually became quite clandestine, with John even refusing new clients due to the challenge of maintaining a harmonious balance for everyone involved. Some service providers were being booked a week in advance, highlighting the high demand for their services. Credit must also be given to Chris from Devilish, as both Chris and Mark were the trailblazers of the new era of online agencies. These two individuals will forever remain at the pinnacle of the agency industry. Interestingly enough, it is amusing to observe that many agency owners now work under Chris as a driver or a booker in the past. While I won't delve into all the intricate details, this fact speaks volumes.
 

Fradi

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What do you mean Indy's that have a booker? Like an assistant? If you have a booker like someone that gets you clients then I don't think you're independent
Yes, I should have said assistant that handles your booking schedule etc.. one that you pay as apposed to an agency booker.
I still consider them as middlemen and don’t like dealing with them either.
If I contact an Independent whether that is by text, email or phone I want them to answer and not an assistant.
 
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Fradi

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That isn't a booker. I don't see the problem unless you're looking for free interactions and texting from a provider. The session should be the focus.
Whether you see it or not is really not important is it and to me it is not just the session that is important nor just the sex and it is definitely not free as I understand it that is part of the reason amongst others that Indy’s cost twice as much as an agency escort.
 

Obvio-0bvio

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Whether you see it or not is really not important is it and to me it is not just the session that is important nor just the sex and it is definitely not free as I understand it that is part of the reason amongst others that Indy’s cost twice as much as an agency escort.
Why would you seek further contact?Consider her a closed chapter and explore other service providers. My friend, it is crucial for you to comprehend a fundamental aspect: the majority of service providers I am acquainted with do not derive pleasure from their work, nor do they engage with clients for the purpose of forming personal connections. Their primary motivation is financial gain. Interacting with clients without monetary compensation is the last thing they desire. While it would be unfair to generalize, it is safe to assert that approximately 90% of service providers engage in their profession solely for the pursuit of monetary rewards.
 

Fradi

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Why would you seek further contact?Consider her a closed chapter and explore other service providers. My friend, it is crucial for you to comprehend a fundamental aspect: the majority of service providers I am acquainted with do not derive pleasure from their work, nor do they engage with clients for the purpose of forming personal connections. Their primary motivation is financial gain. Interacting with clients without monetary compensation is the last thing they desire. While it would be unfair to generalize, it is safe to assert that approximately 90% of service providers engage in their profession solely for the pursuit of monetary rewards.
I think I have been around long enough to understand how things work and I agree with you, however there are more among them than you think who are exceptional and actually do treat their clients like human beings and not walking ATM’s.. I have been lucky in finding these wonderful ladies and this is exactly the reason why I seek out Indy’s and I only correspond with the lady that I will meet in person.and not because I want something for free.
luckily I was smart enough throughout my life to now be able to afford what I want.
 
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Obvio-0bvio

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I think I have been around long enough to understand how things work and I agree with you, however there are more among them than you think who are exceptional and actually do treat their clients like human beings and not walking ATM’s.. I have been lucky in finding these wonderful ladies and this is exactly the reason why I seek out Indy’s and I only correspond with the lady that I will meet in person.and not because I want something for free.
luckily I was smart enough throughout my life to now be able to afford what I want.
Nicely expressed, my friend. While I appreciate your perspective, after years of personal experience, I have developed alternative viewpoints that I shall refrain from delving into, as I prefer not to ignite another contentious discussion within this forum. It appears that people hold your opinion in high regard and relish engaging in debates, whereas I simply aim to be as authentic as possible, while also enjoying myself and passing the time. Regrettably, not everyone here shares the same intentions or motivations as me.
 
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GreyPilgrim

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Believe it or not, but I was once given a girl’s contact info… directly by the agency’s booker, at her request! So no, I definitely wouldn’t jump for the tar, feathers, torch and pitchfork if a girl handed me her contact info to make both our lives easier.

On the other hand, given direct access to an agency provider and the opportunity book her with no one else involved, I would probably still NOT bypass the agency.

I might very well be in the wrong here, but I find that booking through a well established agency also tends to provide me with… hmm, let’s call it a measure of reassurance. They have a reputation to uphold… They know me and my tastes… Yes, it does mean that a third party suddenly becomes involved in what is otherwise a simple transaction. But that third party has a vested interest in things going smoothly for everyone involved and that’s valuable to me.

So yeah, they might be the middlemen. Fair enough. But you know, I actually value their part in the proceedings… as much as I would enjoy a sommelier’s input before fine dining!

That’s just me. Not trying to change anyone’s mind here. Cheers!
 
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