Booker as I said earlier and at the risk of repeating myself, the seminar traced the history of public health law as we know it in the USA and Canada and it originates from the Old Testament, which came before the New Testament. The seminar did not contain the passage I quoted but outlined other health laws all of which had origins in the Old Testament with citations- various books. To understand modern public health laws it helps to learn where it all came from.
Does anyone on here believe in god and the bible?
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Booker as I said earlier and at the risk of repeating myself, the seminar traced the history of public health law as we know it in the USA and Canada and it originates from the Old Testament, which came before the New Testament. The seminar did not contain the passage I quoted but outlined other health laws all of which had origins in the Old Testament with citations- various books. To understand modern public health laws it helps to learn where it all came from.
The world is not aware that the koran is based on the old testament? The world does not know that the Islamic prophet revered Moses? The world does not realize that the koran is more or less a copy of the old-testament? Has the education system become that awful?
Christianity and Islam are nothing more than Judaic sects. More elaboration on Jewish fairy-tales and that is all they are. The Romans understood that about Christianity when it first emerged.
And that's why we're in such a bad situation. We continue to follow fairy-tales. Maybe we should ask Santa for advice on how to live, he seems a jolly fellow!
BookerL I see you did not get a formal education in world history. The Romans fed the Christians to the lions, believing them to be spreaders of fairy tales and harmful propaganda. Watching lions feed on Christians was their chief form of entertainment along with battling Gladiators, which was their version of what we now watch as boxing or MMA. If you ever wondered what the Roman Coliseum was used for back in the day, now you know.
Roman Civilization was an incredible mix of creative inventions, depravity and barbarism. These are the people who gave us the classic language of Latin and also invented the vomitorium. Their history is quite amazing.
Hello EB
The question I have asked wasn't directed at you and read the context of it
.And I am fully aware of the Roman Catholic Empire and structure and many other religion as well .
Cheers
Booker
The question I have asked wasn't directed at you and read the context of it
.And I am fully aware of the Roman Catholic Empire and structure and many other religion as well .
Cheers
Booker
BookerL,
The Romans enslaved the Jews, but Christians actually suffered a worse fate: they got to be lion food. I believe the Romans did starve those lions before feeding the Christians to them, so that their appetites would be ravenous. So I believe the religions were treated differently by the Romans.
Of course Latin became the language of the Roman Catholic Church but this was many years later after many a Christian had been dinner for a lion.
The Romans enslaved the Jews, but Christians actually suffered a worse fate: they got to be lion food. I believe the Romans did starve those lions before feeding the Christians to them, so that their appetites would be ravenous. So I believe the religions were treated differently by the Romans.
Of course Latin became the language of the Roman Catholic Church but this was many years later after many a Christian had been dinner for a lion.
Hello all
http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/judaism/
Cheers
Booker
What Constantine did was more a merger between pagan belief and called Christianity ,one of does belief is the Holy Trinity ,Judaism faith did not promote it
http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/judaism/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea
Cheers
Booker
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The bible is a fairy-tale. It's an evil fucking fairy tale that had a god that kills "suckling infants."
It's 2016.
It's time to get rid of the Jew-book. Old-testament, New-Testament, Koran ... Throw them all in the garbage. Hey, that Talmud? In the trash too.
Do you see any God man when you look up? Yeah, thought so.
The bible is a fairy-tale. It's an evil fucking fairy tale that had a god that kills "suckling infants."
It's 2016.
It's time to get rid of the Jew-book. Old-testament, New-Testament, Koran ... Throw them all in the garbage. Hey, that Talmud? In the trash too.
Do you see any God man when you look up? Yeah, thought so.
The Romans did not enslave Jews, they killed them outright.
As for Christians, so what? Christians with their inquisitions murdered hundreds of thousands of people with their religion of 'peace' just like the Muslims and any other sect that descends from the Jew-book.
The Romans were correct to be wary of that goddamn sect. If it was not for Christianity and the thousand years of darkness it brought upon humanity we would be far, far more technologically advanced by now.
Judaism, Christianity and Islam are like a cancer and that cancer killed at least 1000 years of science and tech.
If a god is out there he/she/it can talk to us. No need for fairy tales written by people that poop in the morning.
Like in so many of your suppositions you are wrong.
The Romans killed most of the Jews in Jerusalem but then enslaved and deported most of the Jews in what was then called Palestine.
That is how the Jews eventually ended up in Africa, Asia and most of Europe.
The Spanish Inquisition was actually led by a converted Jew.
While I don`t believe in the Bible or a God as describe there in. I do believe in a higher power.
I also believe that the Bible is fiction based on partial fact. It is probably the most awesome work of fiction ever written, and its many authors deserve a Nobel prize.
I also believe that the Bible is fiction based on partial fact. It is probably the most awesome work of fiction ever written, and its many authors deserve a Nobel prize.
The idea that converting anyone to a particular religion is more "good" for them than converting to another religion is extremely debatable depending on religious and other views that would create bias in assessment. If we could look at it without influences of favor we grew up with for one religion versus another human behavior would be a constant that persists in each religion. I don't see where any of the major religions has generated a higher form of human behavior. It's probably only the favor/bias we would have for whatever faiths we follow that allow us to think a specific religion does more good.
I think there are some religious teachings that would elevate/be better for human beings, the pure teachings of Christ for example, but tying those with the Old Testament has made Christianity just another faulted very "human" religion like Judaism and Islam. Personally I find religions (all three) that use war to confirm beliefs...ALL TOO HUMAN.
As for Constantine, his real concern was unity and permanence of his empire. He would have chosen paganism if he thought it would have achieved his goals, but he charged the various Christian sects to come up with a unified doctrine he could use to unify his empire because there had been so many hard fought civil wars threatening to destroy it and depose him. No one knows if Constantine was ever a true believer. More likely he was being pragmatic. So you got the Council of Nicea beginning in 325 C.E. (A.D.)
ROMAN TREATMENT: JEWS VERSUS CHRISTIANS:
The idea that Romans enslaved Jews and sacrificed Christians to the lions is kind of a ticky tack cherry picking of different narrow notions about history. Roman treatment of people was pretty consistent no matter what nationality or religion you belonged to. Be peaceful, keep things stable, produce for Rome, pay taxes, and you were left alone...relatively speaking. Fail to do those and you were inviting all the wrath of Rome.
Christians were persecuted because they put Christ above Caesar, resisted Rome, and were considered troublemakers. The idea that they were particularly brutalized comes because Nero used a then small sect as scapegoats for the great fire of 64 C.E. he probably had set and Christians were made a gruesome example of committing such an offense for Nero's purposes in ways a psychotic deviant like him favored. Relatively at the same time the Jewish historian Josephus says 1.1 million Jews were systematically murdered during the Palestine rebellions against Rome 66 to 73 C.E. and the surviving population was almost completely dispersed from their homeland.
You can decide which end is worse but outcomes were more a matter of what Rome thought was necessary and effective at the time. Crucifixion or feeding to animals was not particular to any religious group or culture. They were just typical Roman methods.
Cheers
100% atheist
I dislike all religions equally but I agree with the right of people to practice whatever fairy tale they want as long as it is seperate from the state powers (which we are far from, it still has way too much influence, even in the western world, on politics, supreme courts and laws). I do believe tho that equality between women and men should come first and that religious organisation should not be taxe exempt.
I dislike all religions equally but I agree with the right of people to practice whatever fairy tale they want as long as it is seperate from the state powers (which we are far from, it still has way too much influence, even in the western world, on politics, supreme courts and laws). I do believe tho that equality between women and men should come first and that religious organisation should not be taxe exempt.
Very interesting thread...
I think Doc summed it well in post #38 and i do share his skepticism on a historical Jesus.
Nothing, and i mean absolutely nothing, has been written about Jesus while he was supposedly alive !
In the works of Jewish or Roman writers of that period, zero mention of Jesus. ( Please, those two sentences from Josephus are a joke, lol )
How could it be ?
Mithra might be the most logical explanation.
I think Doc summed it well in post #38 and i do share his skepticism on a historical Jesus.
Nothing, and i mean absolutely nothing, has been written about Jesus while he was supposedly alive !
In the works of Jewish or Roman writers of that period, zero mention of Jesus. ( Please, those two sentences from Josephus are a joke, lol )
How could it be ?
Mithra might be the most logical explanation.
In a session with an SP, she cried out, “Oh God”, I answered by saying yes? What can I do for you, in French.
She then started giving me shit, this how some sessions can end badly
She then started giving me shit, this how some sessions can end badly
Hahahaha! So funny. I told someone when he asked me this question that I believe God is a bisexual woman, and he didn’t think I was very funny. Hehehehe
I believe in the hereafter. We are either immortal or we morph into something else and I have no clue what I’m talking about, lol, it’s a hunch.
But the spiritual mystics and philosophers are very interesting to read, they are way wiser than most of any religion.
I think in the long run we’re getting smarter and kinder. Religion will lose its hold. Morals will be based on basic human kindness.
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