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Exploring Terminology: Is service Providers' a More Polite Term than 'Prostitute'?

Which term do you believe is more polite and respectful?

  • Service Providers

    Votes: 21 34.4%
  • Prostitute

    Votes: 3 4.9%
  • Sex worker

    Votes: 10 16.4%
  • It's a matter of personal preference

    Votes: 6 9.8%
  • Other

    Votes: 2 3.3%
  • Escort

    Votes: 19 31.1%

  • Total voters
    61

Obvio-0bvio

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I wanted to open up a discussion about the language we use when discussing individuals who engage in sex work. Specifically, I'm interested in exploring whether the term "service providers" is considered more polite and respectful compared to the term "prostitute."
Language plays a significant role in shaping our perceptions and attitudes, and it's important to consider the impact of our words. While some argue that "service providers" is a more respectful term that acknowledges the agency and independent of those involved, others may have different perspectives.I'd love to hear your thoughts on this matter. Do you believe that using "service providers" as a term is more polite, or do you think it's just a matter of personal preference? How do you think the language we use can affect the way we view and interact with individuals in the sex work industry?Let's engage in a thoughtful and respectful discussion on this topic. Please remember to express your opinions with sensitivity and empathy.

Which term do you believe is more polite and respectful?
1. Service Providers
2. Prostitute
3. It's a matter of personal preference
4.other
5.sex worker
6.escort

Personally me;When it comes to discussing individuals who provide sexual services in exchange for money, it is generally considered more polite to use the term service providers rather than "prostitute." These terms are considered more respectful and acknowledge the agency and autonomy of individuals in the industry. It is always important to use language that is non-judgmental and respectful when referring to any profession or individual.


Note: Please remember to keep the discussion respectful and refrain from any discriminatory or derogatory language.
 
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Anna Bijou

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You can do a little experiment and put the word prostitute in the search bar. (Not taking this post into account, obviously) you won't find many of us referring to ourselves as prostitutes in posts. Do some of us use it among ourselves? Yes, some do and some don't. But just like "whore" or "hooker", if we use those terms we tend to do so out of earshot because some people seem to take it as an invitation to use the terms themselves as well.


Regardless of intentions, until these are not words used as insults and in order to demean or dehumanize (hard to see how that could be given how negative even the broad definition unrelated to Sex is), it's not a word for you. Maybe someone who you're very familiar with might be fine with you using one of these terms with them. That's their call and shouldn't be interpreted as a pass that extends beyond your private conversations with this person.


IMO it's about more than politeness, though. I think politeness and respect are very different. Politeness is kind of the bare minimum and people can be polite only because they feel social pressure to be. Respect is something that is intentional; genuine respect doesn't happen because of pressure. It's there or it's not. xo





From the Tryst blog:


... terms which are now considered outdated and slurs which should not be used unless you are a sex worker. We encourage clients to learn and understand these as their use adds to the stigma and violence we face. If you hear them used by non sex workers, please call them out for using derogatory language.

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Terms you should not use unless you are a sex worker

Below is a list of terms which should not be used by non sex working individuals. As sex workers are an extremely diverse group of individuals, and much of the current discourse has been presented by mainly white sex workers, some sex workers prefer to use terms outside of "sex worker" to describe their work. We ask that if you hear non sex workers using these terms that you call them out as it does contribute to the violence against us. Most importantly, listen to sex workers if you, yourself are called out for saying something offensive.

Prostitute - this is a term used to criminalise our work and perpetuate harmful stereotypes. Those who oppose the consensual selling and buying of sexual services between adults with use this term because of it's negative connotations and implies sex workers cannot be empowered or autonomous beings.

Hooker/Whore/Harlot - are misogynistic slurs to describe someone who is promiscuous and degrade women's sexuality
 

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Honestly i have generally attributed prostitute as a derogatory term, almost akin to whore.. (it makes me think of the crackhead streetwalker looking for her next fix)
Even when i was younger i saw Escort as a higher class term, (it makes me think of a sexy well rounded lady, even if she is paid for, being the arm candy and presentable to show off as your date to an event)
Service provider is a good way to cover what the job is called because technically a bus driver is a service provider too . Along with many other jobs concidered as a public service. But is a good way to be discreet in telling someone what you so for a living.. (I should probly be useing that term more often for others discretion)
 

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I would never use the word prostitute to refer to someone in real life. I find that terms quite derogatory similar to crack whore or hooker. If it's about a fictional character and I am talking about her profession, only then would I be comfortable with it. Otherwise, sex worker, service provider, escort or simply 'not-a-friend with benefits'.
 

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If someone uses the term "service provider", I know they're a John.

I never say service provider with the general audience. I say "sex worker" or "escort".

Sometimes when I'm drunk, I will say "im gonna go see some hoez"
 

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i think the label comes down to:
1) what the buyer can expect
2) how the girl percieves herself

Sex worker is broad and encompasses everything below, including porn, of, stripping, so not necessarily how a lady would want to brand herself for services provided.

1) Higher end and experiemce oriented beyond just pure sex:
- Courtesean
- Companion

Neutral terms (ymmv, big spectrum in between 1 and 3)
- Escort
- SP
- MA


3) Low end (pure sex, lower quality women, associated with pimps, abuse and drugs)
- Whore
- Hooker
- Prostitute
- call girl
 

Halloween Mike

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Ahh so thats what it means.being living in quebec all this time and only knowing the meaning now lol
Its a derogatory term to design a woman who slept around (not specifically an escort or such) but it was mostly used in the 80-90s. I have not heard this word from anyone under 60 for years lol.
 

Obvio-0bvio

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How about wench?
Don t know why but i like the word putain
I feel somewhat lost and puzzled about their personal fondness for the word "putain," as it remains uncertain as to the specific context or reasons behind it.
 

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You all have probably noticed that the word “prostitute” has been exclusively applied nowadays to politicians which will say, do, anything and team up with anybody to get elected. In contrast, our lovable ladies have rules, principles, and restrictions :)
 
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Mw66

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You all have probably noticed that the word “prostitute” has been exclusively applied nowadays to politicians which will say, do, anything and team up with anybody to get elected. In contrast, our lovable ladies have rules, principles, and restrictions :)

The same politicans will use the term "getting some company" when booking an escort for themselves.
 
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What about guidoune

I was trying to translate this into English to a friend and couldn't find the right words. I don't think guidoune is equivalent to sex worker. Like we used to say some guy was "un Gino", guidoune probably goes back even more. Maybe it used to mean sex worker then but when we used the word it wasn't related to sexual issues, more to a look, much like the "Gino" expression. Or even in a different context, it was used to tease friends "t'es donc ben guidoune". More recently, I've called female dogs guidoune. Lol so, doesn't associate with sex worker in my use of it. Lol
 
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Language plays a significant role in shaping our perceptions and attitudes, and it's important to consider the impact of our words.
This is the basic fundamental that shapes our perception and social interaction in general. Something that I’ve learned late in my life, being from another era! Lol

I have to admit here, that my nieces taught me a few things about this, don’t worry here, they are grown ups with their own kids, and they are close enough to have open convos with me. Of course I don’t talk about my hobby with them but they grew up seeing me with lots of different women so, asking me about it when they became adults was just natural.For example, I’ve been taught to use the terms « compagnes » or « fréquentations » instead of fuck friends.
So for me « companions » is not suited for SWs.
In a random social convo, I will use sex workers to encompass all « trades », be it escorts, Dominatrix, content creator, masseuses etc.
If it’s more specifically about women providing full sexual intercourse I will use the term escorts because everybody understands clearly what it implies.

Now when talking with providers, I will mostly use the term providers but also sometimes escorts, most rarely SW. So far I never got any bad reactions from the girls.
 

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Honestly i have generally attributed prostitute as a derogatory term, almost akin to whore.. (it makes me think of the crackhead streetwalker looking for her next fix)
Even when i was younger i saw Escort as a higher class term, (it makes me think of a sexy well-rounded lady, even if she is paid for, being the arm candy and presentable to show off as your date to an event)
Service provider is a good way to cover what the job is called because technically a bus driver is a service provider too . Along with many other jobs concidered as a public service. But is a good way to be discreet in telling someone what you so for a living.. (I should probly be useing that term more often for others discretion)

Totally makes sense to use the term that you feel most comfortable with. Will also depends who you are talking to.

The term whore is used by a lot of sex workers referring to themselves, including myself - in specific circumstances. But it's never acceptable for anyone else to use is, especially if it's meant to insult obviously.

Most men AND women are so brainwashed by misogyny that even when we think we reject it, we can't help but have leftovers hidden in all kinds of places we don't realize. So no matter what, most people can't say it being 100% non-offensive. So it's our word.

I absolutely hate hearing non sw women jokingly call each other or themselves whores because you just know that a little digging would uncover the response "I don't mean *that kind of whore*" (ok so stfu and find another fake way to seem edgy. Lol)



Totally random side note - feel free to skip:

I have only one friend, who is not a sw and who is actually male, who uses the term whore and I've never had a problem with it but that is my only exception. He's uncommonly, genuinely neutral and non-judgmental about sex, which makes his use of the word really non-offensive but I don't know anyone else I'd feel the same about using the word. I've never seen anyone react with less indifference to my disclosure when I made it, he's just a different breed of human.

This is a little prejudiced of me but the strangest part is he's born, raised and lived into adulthood in Lebanon, which is not really the most progressive feminist environment, even for Christians - although far from the worst either - I can understand why he'd need to immigrate here given he must have stuck out like a sore thumb lol he hates Lebanese, Syrians, Palestinians, Egyptians, and Jordanian equally, so idk. I've never asked but Israel probably doesn't get more love either. Anyway, random useless tidbit about a tinder hook up turned into a friend for years.. which is basically my track record haha)





However I do want to bring something up Respectfully, just to give some pause for reflection.

A sex worker and a person engaging in survival sex are obviously in very different positions of power and don't have the same amount of choice. In some cases, it's appropriate to make a distinction because I can't stand here and say we ALL choose this because of ABC and its been positive for ALL of us, and seriously take it upon myself to include everyone, especially not someone who is literally just surviving, with very limited choices and in a very precarious situation, who may never chose sw, even if in a perfect life situation.


But making this necessary distinction to avoid speaking over others' and their truth doesn't mean that choosing a more acceptable term for ourselves creates a hierarchy or different classes amongst people who receive money in exchange for sexual services, regardless of their higher rates or polished branding.

I'm not sure if you've ever heard of the term "whorearchy"? It describes this imaginary hierarchy we create among ourselves (and from the outside), where different types of sex work or working environments place themselves at the top, (usually the epitome of denial, that is, sugar babies, like to place themselves at or near the top).

The lesser contact type of work, such as phone sex, OF, strippers, porn performers come below in various orders..

Then DOMMES (I had a old friend of mine become absolutely offended when I referred to her as a sex worker. In her view, she was never penetrated herself, so how could it possibly be sex work - never mind she was pegging like mad, so even that argument was absurd but whatever)..

Followed by happy ending massage, and finally full-service sex work, within which another weird hierarchy exists within the main whorearchy: this would include courtesans, companions, "high class" escorts, mid-range, low range, and yes, what you referred to as "crackhead streetwalker looking for her next fix", or just a street worker without any drugs being involved.

(I don't think you meant any harm but just FYI to everyone who still uses this term, it's incredibly stigmatizing, derogatory, judgmental, and unnecessary. It's also very rooted in racism. I think we can retire the offensive dehumanizing term "crack whore" once and for all, for good. It's uncalled for, addiction isn't a personal or moral failing and anyone who knows even a little about substance abuse, harm reduction, and mental health knows its far more complex)

Anyway, the actual point I want to make is that the large sw whorearchy is bullshit and we need to be very intentional about catching ourselves when we do it and respectfully calling out others when they fall into the trap. I've read a lot of clients speak in terms that show they subscribe to it themselves so they shouldn't get a free pass either.


But more specifically, when it comes to the "bottom" <<full service>> hierarchy, I think it's imperative to stop this nonsense belief that because you call yourself a courtesan and can ask for rates like $2000/1hr with a minimum of 4hrs because you're "classy", you are somehow better, worth more, superior or in any basic way different than the street worker making ends meet by offering blow job a couple of evenings a week to pay for your kids hockey lessons, or a couple of times a day to support a substance use disorder.

That is one of the most delusional, disconnected, self-important division some on the "higher end" seem to cling on. The fact is we're all the same in the end, even if the privilege or life circumstances vary greatly.

Stepping on our sisters heads to make ourselves appear above them doesn't change the basic incontrovertible FACT that 2000/hr "experience" is just a dressed up $20/bj with added bells and whistles, neither of which is wrong, better, or inferior - it's just the same. A street worker is not automatically less classy than a "high class" courtesan, not necessarily smarter, well rounded or interesting to spend time with. So many so-called "high class" companions can't even pretend well enough they have much class, let alone "high" amounts of it. (Not hating on high class, although I hate the term. Just find it ridiculous that a few who call themselves HC, whatever that means, are so clearly off on their choice of branding. *hisssss*)

A sex worker is a human. A human is a human is a human, period.

So that's my take, just food for thought. Always be suspicious when someone makes a lot of effort distancing themselves or throwing others under the bus for their own benefit. Getting off my soapbox now haha :)


Cheers! xo
 
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