GFE: To Be Or Not To Be
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Yeah I hear you and I can see why you might say that. The situation could be more complicated though (or maybe not). We seem to get along really well, we exchange gifts (she bought me something quite expensive- wish she hadnt), she is very interested in pursuing a relationship away from the office etc... Might just be that she has her eye on greater benefits IDK but maybe there is something more to it than that. I dont think I've ever been in this situation before.
Does she still take your cash with each session?
I think you are still trapped in your emotions. We've all been there. I have a ATF in Germany where we hang out and make out in public. But we both know it won't work. It just took me longer than her to realize it. You'll find your way out eventually.
I think you are still trapped in your emotions. We've all been there. I have a ATF in Germany where we hang out and make out in public. But we both know it won't work. It just took me longer than her to realize it. You'll find your way out eventually.
Life lesson number one: every single thing in life is YMMV except death. If you think everyone gets equal treatment you are setting yourself up for one disappointment after another.
You don't see yourself the way she sees you obviously.
You claim to be from a macho culture and then show what a jealous and fragile ego you have.
Pull up your socks buddy. If you were macho you would not give a shit, you would shrug your shoulders and move on. If you were a mature adult you would respect her choice and move on. Either way you would not be whining about it.
HTFU
Yes she does take cash with each session. OTOH the times we have spent together away from the business there has been no payment but we have pursued things other than what goes on in an encounter.
It is quite possible that she sees me very differently than I see myself.
I am indeed from a macho culture and I think I'm a lot more familiar with it than you are. I do think people from a macho culture tend to react angrily to situations where they feel they are being dissed. They are what you call red-ass. The guy who does not give a shit is called badass, and that is not the same thing.
Do lower class latinos (which is the culture I grew up in) have fragile egos? Thats a possible explanation (and a view that might be taken by a WASP who does not understand latinos) but honestly not one that I would agree with - but only because I think its inaccurate. To me their (and my reactions) emanate more from arrogant pride, a cardinal sin in our religion by the way. So I'm not saying thats good. In fact its bad and explains why I got in so many scuffles in my younger days and wound up spending eighteen months in the slammer before I straightened my life out and turned things around. But you never really change your stripes no matter how hard you try. I now micromanage my reactions to keep on top of them, to better understand them. Thats what was actually behind my question to board members.
Oh and BTW you are dead wrong about my being jealous. In fact I'm happy to find out that the lady is not totally programmed and that she capable of greater intimacy and absolutely more power to the lucky dudes who can elicit that response.
Capiche?
Agreed! It's the sad truth. There are way too many options out there to let one get to you.
But really none of us here can figure it out for you, maybe just ask her why? She is one to answer your confusion. Or try to tip her for GFE services?
If you are afraid of ruining the chemistry by asking her, then just keep things the way they are or move on.
If you are afraid of ruining the chemistry by asking her, then just keep things the way they are or move on.
Yeah of course you are right Jack. Actually I intend to broach the subject with her at the right time. We've spent enuf good times together that I would not just cut her off without an explanation. Just not the way I roll. Also our time together away from the office has been great and has had nothing to do with the business so I would probably be open to the possibility that we continue as friends on the understanding that I was no longer a client (for reasons that are obvious). Actually as I was explaining above the thread was not really about how best to handle the situation, it was more for me to get a handle on whether my reaction (specifically being pissed off) was normal or unreasonable from a community that would have a deeper insight into it than the general public.
I am pretty sure that once you cut off the business part she will no longer see you as a friend, she is an escort, she is doing her job to get money out of you for sex, she does not feel the way about you as you feel about her, she gives extras to others that she does not give you. What would Dr. Phil say?
You may well be right STN but thats what left for me to find out. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. She could have found a more financially productive use of her time than seeing me outside the office since she is in demand and does have better clients than me so I feel I should at least check it out before closing the book on it once and for all- which I agree probably is the most likely outcome.
Maybe she likes you a lot as a friend? Remember the good old days in our 20's when a hot girl would hook us up asking us to go skiing or to the clubs and then when you have the guts to make a move on her she would say "ho so sorry I did not wanted you romantically, only as a good friend"
Haaaaaaaaaa!
Worst would be 2 weeks later she would introduce you to her boyfriend and the guy is a fucking douchebag
Cheers,
If you pm me her name, I am on old chubby man, if I get services you do not get you will have some sort of an answer.
Somehow I can't imagine that happening to you jalimon
Ho it happened to me enough to write about it
Westwoody wrote "Life lesson number one: every single thing in life is YMMV except death", cannot agree more. Or like Bill Gates said, "Tell you kids that life is not fair, get used to it!"
Cheers,
In that case Salty if you get more service than me I will have to kill myself lol...
Ha ha good one. TBH the sex with her was never what it should have been obviously so I can easily do without. OTOH she is an awesome person and I find her personal history quite interesting. Frankly I'd prefer to have her as a friend. But I can do without that too if need be.Maybe she likes you a lot as a friend? Remember the good old days in our 20's when a hot girl would hook us up asking us to go skiing or to the clubs and then when you have the guts to make a move on her she would say "ho so sorry I did not wanted you romantically, only as a good friend"
Haaaaaaaaaa!
Worst would be 2 weeks later she would introduce you to her boyfriend and the guy is a fucking douchebag
Cheers,
Starry, you haven't stated which GFE services she denies you, but offers others.
There is another possible, but admittedly improbable explanation, suggested by a former SP who is now a platonic friend. She told me that she detested BBBJ but performed it with clients (and not in her personal life) as the agency boss pressured her. Maybe your SP, given the closeness of your relationship calculates that she will not lose you by denying the missing services and/or wants to enjoy sex with you so she does what she likes with you, but provides the missing service(s) with other clients to avoid complaints.
There is another possible, but admittedly improbable explanation, suggested by a former SP who is now a platonic friend. She told me that she detested BBBJ but performed it with clients (and not in her personal life) as the agency boss pressured her. Maybe your SP, given the closeness of your relationship calculates that she will not lose you by denying the missing services and/or wants to enjoy sex with you so she does what she likes with you, but provides the missing service(s) with other clients to avoid complaints.
Just to share my experience, hanging out off the clock didn't really mean that much. I was asked by an indy once, so I went hanging out with her and things were great first, she even paid.. I liked her face, body...
Then shitty behaviors started to come: showing up late, last minute cancellation, session cut short, service dropped..etc. After two cancellations in a row she apologized and said she would buy me lunch the day after to make up for me, usually we would have a session after hanging out so I said ok but this time no session after lunch, I said this on purpose to see her reaction... guess what, I got stood up again the next day and never heard from her since then. Two weeks later she went completely MIA. Lesson quick learnt, I am no one special, just a walking wallet to her.
Then shitty behaviors started to come: showing up late, last minute cancellation, session cut short, service dropped..etc. After two cancellations in a row she apologized and said she would buy me lunch the day after to make up for me, usually we would have a session after hanging out so I said ok but this time no session after lunch, I said this on purpose to see her reaction... guess what, I got stood up again the next day and never heard from her since then. Two weeks later she went completely MIA. Lesson quick learnt, I am no one special, just a walking wallet to her.
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