Hamas & Israel
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.....need to help Israël ....and ...forget about Ukraine..... You are saying the same think You know that Natanayu and Putin two criminal dictators. You like them ???
Netanyahu with all his issues is a democraticly elected PM. Putin is not elected basically..
ukraine did not comit an oct 7 massacre to deserve this
how dare you compare???
How anyone can support hamas???
I wish for Palestinians to have a leader with a non barbaric vision
I bet you any Israeli leader will wage a similar war againts those barbaric terrorists
Tell me Poopsy: Is orchestrate an Holaucost No 2 the right response to massacre ?? It is said eye for eye ...not 1000 eyes for on eye ........lolllllll
The vast majority of those deaths are the responsibility of Hamas, which operates in civilian areas in a way to maximize civilian casualties. They simply don't give a shit, and view the dead as "martyrs" who have made "God (Allah) great." That would include you too if you happened to be in the line of fire. Their game plan is to draw fire and maximize casualties, and let Israel suffer the political fallout.
Shame on you for appeasing these terrorists who would take off your head in 2 seconds and not give a rat's ass about it.
Those evil terrorists deserve a punishment but dont you think genocide is too much? Please tell me, how is it possible to become so bad? Are they different from us and it is in their blood? Or is it their religion? Or could it be that they had a kind of trauma in their past? What do you think made them what they are now? Help me understand please.
There is 1 Jewish country on this planet, ONE. There is how many Arab Countries? Why does the "Palestinians" want a country on their own? Not only is there many Arab/Islamic countries around Israel but on top of it, they could simply live in Israel like any normal citizens if they learned to behave properly. The issue is death and "martyrdom" is teach to them since birth. They are raise on hate and with a way of life to think its normal to kill peoples if they think different than them.
Lets say Israel eradicate completely Hamas and the Jihadist. Then they decide to let more liberties to the normal citizens and allow free movements etc? Guess what will happen? More weapons from Iran by way of Egypt or other places. More terror attacks. This is a deradicalization process that i don't even think is possible to do really...
In 45 what happened when Berlin was cornered? Hitler ended himself along some of his close collaborator because he couldn't handle defeat and capture, and then the rest of Nazi Germany surrendered. What Hitler had planted in the head of peoples was only done in a small ammount of years and Germany was able to let go the hate. And now it is illegal to flow a Nazi flag there. They are ashame of their past. But that was all political, not religious, and thats the nuance.
Hamas is in the same condition as Nazi Germany. The towns are destroy, their numbers have been decimated. Their leader hide in an underground bunker (but more elaborated). They know the longer they wait til surrender, their civilians will suffer. But they seem to count on it. Their only way to "win anything" is by the public opinion of ignorant peoples. Young "activists" who knows nothing about politics and have been raised on ultra wokeness.
In their mind their religion justify it and its fine to "martyrdom". I even saw a video of a person who said they would strap their baby to a rocket if it could end peoples in Israel. Thats some crazy thinking.
Honestly i have no solution in mind for Gaza or Lebanon/Hezbollah. Because how do you deradicalize an entire nation of religious fanatics?
Lets say Israel eradicate completely Hamas and the Jihadist. Then they decide to let more liberties to the normal citizens and allow free movements etc? Guess what will happen? More weapons from Iran by way of Egypt or other places. More terror attacks. This is a deradicalization process that i don't even think is possible to do really...
In 45 what happened when Berlin was cornered? Hitler ended himself along some of his close collaborator because he couldn't handle defeat and capture, and then the rest of Nazi Germany surrendered. What Hitler had planted in the head of peoples was only done in a small ammount of years and Germany was able to let go the hate. And now it is illegal to flow a Nazi flag there. They are ashame of their past. But that was all political, not religious, and thats the nuance.
Hamas is in the same condition as Nazi Germany. The towns are destroy, their numbers have been decimated. Their leader hide in an underground bunker (but more elaborated). They know the longer they wait til surrender, their civilians will suffer. But they seem to count on it. Their only way to "win anything" is by the public opinion of ignorant peoples. Young "activists" who knows nothing about politics and have been raised on ultra wokeness.
In their mind their religion justify it and its fine to "martyrdom". I even saw a video of a person who said they would strap their baby to a rocket if it could end peoples in Israel. Thats some crazy thinking.
Honestly i have no solution in mind for Gaza or Lebanon/Hezbollah. Because how do you deradicalize an entire nation of religious fanatics?
US is a freaking joke. Their "resolutions" are not respected by the islamists either. We all heard about Resolution 1701 for Hezbollah and they don't care. UN has constantly shat on Israel since October 7 and done all they can to make them look like the bad guy why the few times they did anything about Hamas it always came late, with reluctance etc. They barely talk about the actual genocide that are happening in other countries like Sudan, but keep stomping on Israel because they wage a war that Gaza started.
And when it comes to North Korea, its not because of the "UN" we see them as what they are. Its because they are lead by a lunatic dictator with an iron grip who will kill his own minister for sleeping at a meeting or for being unable to go against... mother nature.
Kim Jong Un executes 30 officials over floods in North Korea that killed 4,000: report
It’s not the first time reports have emerged of Kim ordering officials to be taken out over a perceived failure.
nypost.com
I agree- the only difference is religion rather than politics. For the Nazis, their politics was an ideology and a religion. There are believers and nonbelievers in both scenarios. The true believers are rewarded and the nonbelievers get punishment and death.
You didn't mention that the minister who was executed for falling asleep at a meeting was killed with enormous anti-aircraft guns, in public. The reasoning was he would not fall asleep during that ritual. Those guns are quite loud and powerful and can shoot down jets, never mind humans. There is actually video of that execution on the Internet, but here is the news report on it:
North Korea executes officials with anti-aircraft gun in new purge – report | North Korea | The Guardian
Two senior regime officers reported to have been killed for posing a threat to leader Kim Jong-un
amp.theguardian.com
Yeah well i don't wanna see that personally ... But yeah i recalled it was that way. Must be gruesome to see but rather quick at least. Still its obviously a Kim Jong-Un demonstration of barbarism to keep peoples in line.
You can take my word that it was quite barbaric and sent a chilling message to the other ministers not to fall asleep in meetings.
But Hamas is no better sacrificing its own citizens by conducting military operations from hospitals and in or underneath the middle of densely populated neighborhoods, hiding in tunnels. They will tell you they are martyrs and patriots and Fin would likely agree; I would call them murdered innocent civilians killed by their own leaders.
But Hamas is no better sacrificing its own citizens by conducting military operations from hospitals and in or underneath the middle of densely populated neighborhoods, hiding in tunnels. They will tell you they are martyrs and patriots and Fin would likely agree; I would call them murdered innocent civilians killed by their own leaders.
Check this Netanyahu interview from 1978! Not much has changed.
Interesting fact is that Palestinians had their country. It was Jordan with 60% of Palestinian population. They literary blew it up by starting an apprising, lost 20,000 men and at the end found their refuge in Lebanon. And there they were also instrumental in instigating civil war reducing a very economically prosperous, largely Christian French speaking country to ruins.
It is absurd to compare holocaust to what ‘s happening in gaza.
There is a deep moral twist to your comparaison of lining up civilians man women and children in a train to a gaz chamber and fighting terrorists embeded within civil population dressed as civilians hiddind in school and among children. Those same terrorist don’t giving a damn about their own population even worst using them as human shield.
Not even mentioning that many of those death are combatants if you want to call them that..
Civils do die in war. Ration combatant/civilians is one of the lowest in urban warfare
You moral compass is completly twisted and corrupt by Aljazeira and BBC
My dear friend you are totally lost.
I do not listen Alijazeira or BBC. I listen to Radio Canada which does give the right picture of the genocide of Gaza. Jews in Gaza. Victims of the holocaust become killer, monster in Gaza. You have not one trace of objectivity in this conflict. You are not worth furtherr response. Bye Now and forever
The solution is to get the terrorist and liberate the hostages. Now the jews are killing the population of Gaza but no do not free the hostages. The lack of intelligence is not a reason tho make a genocide.
Hamas is genociding their own people, not the Israelis. This is also a factually incorrect statement since Arab Muslims serve in the IDF. They are volunteers, not conscripts.
Great way to have a debate.
Radio Canada has the most shallow and dumbs political analysts of all medias combined
Be well
The comparison is not about the description of the events but the degree of criminality and disregard for human life. Killing innocent people under the pretext of fighting terrorism, is not so far from killing Innocent Jews because they are considered inferior by that Psycho. The morality stands and is Similar. What is more choking is that they are called terrorist, and we only see them killing Soldiers, while The IDF is killing kids, babies, and Civilians, and we only see them destroying tanks and military trucks, while the IDF is destroying houses, hospitals, and schools. It seems we need to redefine terrorism at this stage. We are witnessing a genocide, and still, we find people making excuses for it. After destroying everything in Gaza, now they are turning that Killing machine to the West Bank. They will slowly increase the dose of violence, claiming to kill more terrorist with each escalation. It is clear by now that for Netanyahu, the Palestinians need to be removed from all the land. It seems that for him and his supporters, Palestinians are genetically terrorist.
