Summer is never on the schedule that much and last week when she worked 3 days it may have been because it was grand prix week and as far as Keli goes in the last 2 weeks she worked 13 out of 14 days all long shifts, perhaps her body just needed a break. Not saying this is the reason for either one but i doubt that it has anything to do with there rates. Now when it comes to numbers it is a very subjective thing but in my opinion in this biz if we were waiting for a girl who was a true 9/10 and turning everyone else away, about 1 girl in every 100 to 200 would get in the room. The girls that are a true 9/10 came along once every 2 or 3 years at the most.
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Summer is never on the schedule that much and last week when she worked 3 days it may have been because it was grand prix week and as far as Keli goes in the last 2 weeks she worked 13 out of 14 days all long shifts, perhaps her body just needed a break. Not saying this is the reason for either one but i doubt that it has anything to do with there rates. Now when it comes to numbers it is a very subjective thing but in my opinion in this biz if we were waiting for a girl who was a true 9/10 and turning everyone else away, about 1 girl in every 100 to 200 would get in the room. The girls that are a true 9/10 came along once every 2 or 3 years at the most.
That about nails it, Jeff. Not only that, guys see numbers differently. Picky thinks 7.5 rates an average. I think an average looking girl gets a 5. Know what that means? Numbers mean nothing.
Numbers mean a lot if you read a lot of reviews of the reviewer, cause then you know reviewer's scale and taste.
MA, Delta, PFG, EE, Uncle or jd are guys whom scale and taste I know for exemple... Their numbers are very useful for me.
If you don"t read at least 5/10 reviews of the guy nor try the same girls, then numbers are useless...
MA, Delta, PFG, EE, Uncle or jd are guys whom scale and taste I know for exemple... Their numbers are very useful for me.
If you don"t read at least 5/10 reviews of the guy nor try the same girls, then numbers are useless...
Maybe so, but they're not writing only for you. Delta, for example, has a low grade of 8.4 and a high grade of 9.2. Maybe you know the difference, but no one else does. Maybe you share his taste to the tenth of a point, but who else does?
Maybe so, but you shouldn't have to. A good review speaks for itself. Thanks for making my point.
When I read a review from manapart, I need no further explanation. When I read a review from Sapman, I need no further explanation. When I read a review from Cloudsurf, I need nothing further. When I read a review from Joe.T, I need no further explanation. When I read a review from Lgna, well I'll let you know if he ever writes one. When I read a review from Picky Friendly Guy, I need further information. What does his numbering system mean? Is a GND a 5 or a 7.5? If one has to know his entire posting history, then his reviews are basically worthless unless one has read his entire reviewing history.
BTW, the last girl I met in Montreal whom I would give a 9 for looks worked at Celine's Fantasies and that was 2005.
I must say, I have been a long time customer of Eleganza. I like the fact that I can call up and book my entire schedule for my trip from NYC. If they continue to gouge prices, it's simply not worth it for me to make the trip. I can stay in NYC and book at $400-$500 and pay the same after the room, flight, cabs etc.. I think they are making a BIG mistake, especially when their roster is quickly shrinking.
The problem, Picky, is that people don`t mean the same things with their numbers. If a girl is average looking, or GND, I`d give her a 5. I`ve had a great time with girls at this level if they are, to my eye, attractive. For example, I`d give Elena a 6 if I used numbers. She`s a bit prettier than GND. (I gave her body a 23, BTW.) That didn`t stop me from seeing her 5-6 times. I`d probably give Molly a 7, pretty, certainly, but not gorgeous. I`ve probably seen her a dozen times and we`ve already made plans to spend Bloomsday together.
I`m trying to think of the girls I`ve met whom I`d give a nine and it ain`t easy. Certainly Gia in 2005. And Michele of companions...that was also 2005. A lot of pretty girls and a lot of fun certainly through the years. But DDG, rarely.
It`s not only subjective, but people mean different things when they assign numbers. You say 7; I say 5 when I`m giving the same rating. Without a standard system, numbers mean nothing.
We weren"t talking about review, but about rate, so what you write is irrelevant.
If you don't like rate, don't read them. If it can help some of us, then it's useful. You're not the only one to satisfy.
Be more tolerant. Accept the fact that some of us need more than a GND for look. Accept the fact that some of us use and need rate.
You still don't seem to understand my point. Numbers don't mean anything without some standard. What does 5 mean? What does 7 mean? My 5 is GND. Picky's 7 is GND. Some guys throw 9 around like the city is full of them.
Delta never gives a girl less than a 7. I give 25% of the girls I see a 7. Does that mean that Delta sees prettier girls than I do? No. It means he has a different rating system. And until there is a standard, and there never will be, numbers mean nothing.
I agree with you completely.
BTW, regarding your earlier suggestion that I see Summer. That will never happen, as I stated this morning, for two reasons. 1) Why pay 240$ when I can see Maxime for 160$ or Molly for 180$ or Elena for 200$? 2) I will never, ever knowingly see a girl with implants. They are a total turnoff for me. I have no problem with tattoos. I don't like, but I can live with piercings. But I detest bogus boobs.
And that, sir, is the whole problem with numbers. So some guy is coming to Montreal from Cleveland and wants to know about a girl. So he reads one of EE's reviews. Now, to understand what EE means by his ratings, this poor guy has to go back and read a whole bunch of EE's reviews to understand what he means by his ratings.
Let's say you are going to Toronto. Do you want to have to read all of somebody's reviews to understand what his ratings mean? Of course not.
As long as there is no standard, numbers are useless. Unless, of course, you have nothing better to do with your life than make a study of everybody's posting habits. Sorry, pal, I have better things to do.
Sorry for my ignorance, but which Montreal SPs Stars have definitely left the city to work in Toronto, during the last year ?
Good exemple, Rumple. A guy from US, will just have to read EE words in his review to undertand if he should or shouldn't book a girl. Rate will be useless for him. But still useful for those who know his scale.
The fact that rates are useless for some, and useful for the others, doesn't mean we should stop rating.
Some of us eat icecream and the others don't like it. Should we stop providing icecream ?
Just in case John doesn't see your post, I'll offer what I can from my limited experience. Of the top 12 vote getters in the 2012 GFE of the Year poll...none. They are all still working in Montreal, with the exception of the retired Sarah Bernard. And their rates??
6 at $160, Naomie, Thalia, Emma, Maxime, Jersey, Jezebel
1 at $180, Molly
3 at $200, Daryn, Neva, Elena
1 at $325, Chloe
OMG, was she stunning. Yes, Cloudsurf, there's a 9 if there ever was one. We're going back a bit over two years to her very brief stay in the business.
What a debate we are having. Is a rating of a "5" average for any Woman that you have ever seen in your life or is a rating of a "5" for any woman aged 18-40? Maybe a "5" is average for an escort/sex worker 18-40? Or maybe a "5" is someone average of all the SP`s that you have personally spent time with? Maybe she is the median? Should we use a bell shaped curve and ensure that we have a normal distribution of ratings at the end of the year?
Here is a hobbyist that just gave Mia of Xxxtase a 7 and called it average.
https://merb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?85660-Mia-XXXtase&p=620873&viewfull=1#post620873
This guy believes that a 7 should be average for an escort. I know what a 5 or 6 is to me and I sure do not want to pay for a 5 or 6 (I have unfortunately).
Maybe we should adopt the TER scale?
Maybe we can get together and establish what constitutes a 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, or 10? We can put a set of standards together and make sure that we view the girls under a D-65 light source or some standardized light source? I have been told that professionals that match colors in certain industries can be fooled by different light sources. Also, if you are sick or tired, colors look different. Once when I was plastered, I slept with an ugly fat chick that I was sure was hot. When I woke up I found out she was a pig. Maybe we should measure our blood alcohol level and include this in a report to ensure that the data is not skewed?
This could carry over to performance as well. P.F.G. says she gives a great blow job. Well how great? Let’s test her on one of those portable pulmonary testing machines that they use at the hospital or doctor’s office and report VA max output. Everyone should carry a tape measure to an appointment.
We could apply six sigma principles. If we are having a tough time rating the girls we could call a local black belt? Also, the agencies could be certified by some outside independent auditor. Eleganza could be the first agency to claim that they have ISO 9001 Certified Hookers!
Ratings and trip reports are fun to read and write. They are useful because they expose the rip-offs and keep the girls and agencies on their toes. We indicate when we are satisfied or unsatisfied or if the appointment was just so-so. Many of us like to entertain with our reviews. I like to document these fleeting moments for posterity. I enjoy reading them a year or two later and think about how much fun this hobby has been for me and some of the really great adventures I have been on in search of pussy.
I was telling my friend about an experience I had a Termas. He said he would never monger because he is afraid of catching an STD. I said "Joe” we use condoms and the girls are checked at this brothel on a weekly basis. He said what if you see an SP right after she sees a guy with an STD. Yet Joe will meet a girl at a bar and fuck without condoms, drive down the street under the influence, and meet a guy in an alley he has never seen before to score a bag of weed. Life is full of risks
Here is a hobbyist that just gave Mia of Xxxtase a 7 and called it average.
https://merb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?85660-Mia-XXXtase&p=620873&viewfull=1#post620873
This guy believes that a 7 should be average for an escort. I know what a 5 or 6 is to me and I sure do not want to pay for a 5 or 6 (I have unfortunately).
Maybe we should adopt the TER scale?
Maybe we can get together and establish what constitutes a 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, or 10? We can put a set of standards together and make sure that we view the girls under a D-65 light source or some standardized light source? I have been told that professionals that match colors in certain industries can be fooled by different light sources. Also, if you are sick or tired, colors look different. Once when I was plastered, I slept with an ugly fat chick that I was sure was hot. When I woke up I found out she was a pig. Maybe we should measure our blood alcohol level and include this in a report to ensure that the data is not skewed?
This could carry over to performance as well. P.F.G. says she gives a great blow job. Well how great? Let’s test her on one of those portable pulmonary testing machines that they use at the hospital or doctor’s office and report VA max output. Everyone should carry a tape measure to an appointment.
We could apply six sigma principles. If we are having a tough time rating the girls we could call a local black belt? Also, the agencies could be certified by some outside independent auditor. Eleganza could be the first agency to claim that they have ISO 9001 Certified Hookers!
Ratings and trip reports are fun to read and write. They are useful because they expose the rip-offs and keep the girls and agencies on their toes. We indicate when we are satisfied or unsatisfied or if the appointment was just so-so. Many of us like to entertain with our reviews. I like to document these fleeting moments for posterity. I enjoy reading them a year or two later and think about how much fun this hobby has been for me and some of the really great adventures I have been on in search of pussy.
I was telling my friend about an experience I had a Termas. He said he would never monger because he is afraid of catching an STD. I said "Joe” we use condoms and the girls are checked at this brothel on a weekly basis. He said what if you see an SP right after she sees a guy with an STD. Yet Joe will meet a girl at a bar and fuck without condoms, drive down the street under the influence, and meet a guy in an alley he has never seen before to score a bag of weed. Life is full of risks
Since I live in Toronto, I also pay attention to the "total cost" when I decide whether or not I want to go to Montreal. However, an extra $40 per escort is not the breaking point. What is the breaking point is the roster. If the roster isn't robust with high quality escorts, then there really isn't any point in going. I am very keen to see how all this plays out. If Eleganza ends up with a bunch of Mykelas on the roster (albeit with $240 rates), then I think this will be worth it.
Hello all,
That would be right above. How did you not say you want to put Montreal and Toronto on the same level regarding escort rates. This thread is about rate of pay for escorts and you promise the escorts will make the same in Montreal as Toronto to keep them from leaving Montreal.
What's the difference in pricing systems between this quote and the second one. They both say you are offering Toronto rates, which you deny in the first quote.
In the full original quote above you advertisement "Ladies, Toronto is HERE!!! Hi ladies, Why work in Toronto when you can make the same per hour here in Montreal?" Since there is no distinction that any ladies you hire will make less if they offer less quality service, your advertisement is a promise offering EVERY LADY you hire the same higher Toronto based rates regardless of quality. How are you going to pay any of your ladies less after making a promise to new hires they will get Toronto rates. If you have to pay all your ladies Toronto rates...THAT IS CHANGING THE MARKET.
Whew, there's a lot of DOUBLE TALK in these quotes
So, none of the very best have left. Do you get the feeling that there's a shell game going on with Eleganza and/or the reason one lady left has nothing to do with rates???
Cheers,
Merlot
That would be right above. How did you not say you want to put Montreal and Toronto on the same level regarding escort rates. This thread is about rate of pay for escorts and you promise the escorts will make the same in Montreal as Toronto to keep them from leaving Montreal.
What's the difference in pricing systems between this quote and the second one. They both say you are offering Toronto rates, which you deny in the first quote.
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In the full original quote above you advertisement "Ladies, Toronto is HERE!!! Hi ladies, Why work in Toronto when you can make the same per hour here in Montreal?" Since there is no distinction that any ladies you hire will make less if they offer less quality service, your advertisement is a promise offering EVERY LADY you hire the same higher Toronto based rates regardless of quality. How are you going to pay any of your ladies less after making a promise to new hires they will get Toronto rates. If you have to pay all your ladies Toronto rates...THAT IS CHANGING THE MARKET.
Whew, there's a lot of DOUBLE TALK in these quotes
So, none of the very best have left. Do you get the feeling that there's a shell game going on with Eleganza and/or the reason one lady left has nothing to do with rates???
Cheers,
Merlot
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