Higher Summer Season Rates!!!

[ManApart]

My post isn't about John, but I see the DOJs (Defenders of John) and COJs (Critics of John) are out and this thread is starting to be about Eleganza. Too bad. While they may have issues, there's more than one agency and owner that should be called out...IF...any are to be called out. I think we should either keep this discussion more generic or expand other places where there are also significant faults.

I agree, I started this thread not as a platform to necessarily complain about Eleganza. There are other agencies pushing the rates upward and have been for a while now. Queen Of Spades has been experimenting with $200+ rates for over a year, same with Angel Escorts. Asservissante has done a recent $200 across the board rate inflation. There are other places as well. Ferrary charging $200 for real YMMV service for example. What about MGF? $300/hour!!. One of their girls I refused at another agency, when she was $180.

The $240 rates on Keli and Summer are high and sudden, so they are getting the most attention. John is afraid to lose two of his stars, so I understand the rate increases. He won't look too smart if he brings the rates back to $200 and they jump ship for another agency like Angels or QOS that give them $240.

Don't get angry at the agencies or girls and demand they bring their rates back down. That is no good. What has to be done is we have to show them that they have to do so for their best interests. If people avoid these MDH or HDH rates and they end up getting 1 call per day, then they will be very happy to bring the rates back down and get booked solid again. The market is the boss on what rates should be, not the girls, not the owners. Who is the market? Us....the actual dollars that make this whole industry go.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

I agree that everyone has his own idea of what does or doesn't make an escort a star.

What makes one a star is not what you or I think. What makes on a star is a wide held public perception. I don't believe a girl with a handful of reviews and a three month history can be considered a star.

Summer and Keli may be stars of the future, but there's no way they can be considered so at this stage of their careers.

I agree, I started this thread not as a platform to necessarily complain about Eleganza. There are other agencies pushing the rates upward and have been for a while now. Queen Of Spades has been experimenting with $200+ rates for over a year, same with Angel Escorts. Asservissante has done a recent $200 across the board rate inflation. There are other places as well. Ferrary charging $200 for real YMMV service for example. What about MGF? $300/hour!!. One of their girls I refused at another agency, when she was $180.

All quite true, MA. What set me off was John's Help Wanted ad yesterday where he effectively stated that he wants to turn Montreal into Toronto. If that's his stated goal, then it should be our stated goal to drive him to Mascouche.

 

[ManApart]

All quite true, MA. What set me off was John's Help Wanted ad yesterday where he effectively stated that he wants to turn Montreal into Toronto.

I didn't notice the ad, thanks for pointing it out.

 

[freedom3]

What makes one a star is not what you or I think. What makes on a star is a wide held public perception. I don't believe a girl with a handful of reviews and a three month history can be considered a star.

Summer and Keli may be stars of the future, but there's no way they can be considered so at this stage of their careers.

I probably shouldn't have used the word "star" in my post. I should have said "awesome escort" or "better escort than most of the escorts in Toronto" or something like that. It doesn't matter to me if an escort has a lot of good reviews or not. When I saw Giana, I don't think I had seen any reviews of her at that time and I considered her a star.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

"better escort than most of the escorts in Toronto" or something like that.

Well, I've never hobbied in TO, but wouldn't that statement apply to 90% of the escorts in Montreal?

BTW, Maxime, who has 12 pages of accolades, is the very definition of star. And a shining one at that.

 

[Merlot]

I agree, I started this thread not as a platform to necessarily complain about Eleganza. There are other agencies pushing the rates upward...Queen Of Spades has been experimenting with $200+ rates for over a year, same with Angel Escorts. Asservissante has done a recent $200 across the board rate inflation. There are other places as well. Ferrary charging $200 for real YMMV service for example. What about MGF? $300/hour!!. One of their girls I refused at another agency, when she was $180.

Don't get angry at the agencies or girls and demand they bring their rates back down. What has to be done is we have to show them that they have to do so for their best interests. If people avoid these MDH or HDH rates and they end up getting 1 call per day, then they will be very happy to bring the rates back down and get booked solid again.

Hello ManApart,

As I said, this shouldn't only be about one agency, and I am happy you pointed out some others. I hadn't seen the advertisement below before I wrote my last post in this thread. This thread still should not be about any one agency, but the announcement below is significant enough to single it out no matter which owner wrote it. Some will say it's no more than salesmanship to attract more ladies to the sex work industry and this agency in particular. But I think with ongoing raise in rates combined with this sales pitch, we all may want to wake up a little more and wonder if any thoughts of this being just a summer trend among most agencies isn't just wishful thinking.

Ladies, Toronto Is Here!!!

Hi ladies,

Why work in Toronto when you can make the same per hour here in Montreal?

Thank you,

John

:faint:

For those who were undecided about how to handle these higher rates, this advertisement should be plenty of food for thought.

OOUF!!!

Merlot

 

[freedom3]

Well, I've never hobbied in TO, but wouldn't that statement apply to 90% of the escorts in Montreal?

No, the situation is not that bad in Toronto. I would say the majority of escorts in Toronto and Montreal are equivalent. The rates are lower in Montreal but the quality for most them is the same. The big difference, for me, is that Montreal has more stars than Toronto.

 

[hungry101]

Merlot

What is not clear to me is who started the price hike to $240 for MDH girls. Did Eleganza start this or were they following?

 

[Merlot]

"What is not clear to me is who started the price hike to $240 for MDH girls. Did Xxxxxxxxx start this or were they following?"

Hello Hungry,

I don't know the sequence of agencies raising prices. Let's take the agency name out of the quote in my last post and just enter the words...Long Respected Legitimate Agency. I don't think the name is as important as the fact that one or more of the agencies considered a reliable stalwart by most, and also a consistent large vote receiver in most agency polls, is pushing the rates and promoting itself as a Toronto-rate level agency is the point. This is not a matter of blame, it's the fact that it's happening and being that open about it.



Merlot

 

[ManApart]

Bianka Ex-Angel Escorts and Eleganza just went Indy at $180! Down from her $220 rate with Angels. Here is the solution. All these girls can go Indy and keep their rates at $160-$180 lol.

 

[luv2kayak]

I agree ManApart. For me, I will not book any SP who's rate is greater than $200/hr regardless of agency, or indy status.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

Bianka Ex-Angel Escorts and Eleganza just went Indy at $180! Down from her $220 rate with Angels. Here is the solution. All these girls can go Indy and keep their rates at $160-$180 lol.

You can delete the lol part, MA. As we both know, Maxime works as an indy at 160$ and she doesn't even advertise anymore. And she even gets us to drive halfway to Laval to see her.

 

[ManApart]

Now that's the Montreal we all know and love! Maxime service and sweetness for $160. That's what I'm talking about, when I mention value. Still the only girl in my life, personal or otherwise, who I gave DATO to .

 

[jeff jones]

Bianka Ex-Angel Escorts and Eleganza just went Indy at $180! Down from her $220 rate with Angels. Here is the solution. All these girls can go Indy and keep their rates at $160-$180 lol.

It's too bad a bunch more ladies wouldn't go indy and keep there rates between $160 and$200. per hour and cut out the middle man altogether, the girls make more per hour and the johns pay less but it is not likely to happen.

 

[jeff jones]

Bianka Ex-Angel Escorts and Eleganza just went Indy at $180! Down from her $220 rate with Angels. Here is the solution. All these girls can go Indy and keep their rates at $160-$180 lol.

I just checked Bianka's ad and i would like to point out that it is refreshing to see a young lady who starts her career as an indy by showing some intelligence when it comes to pricing. First off she did not get greedy, she priced herself at $180. for 1hr, $340. for 2 hrs. So not only did she keep her prices reasonable but she is also encouraging multi hr dates plus i did not see anything on the ad that suggests she is charging a bunch of extra, extra,extras for everything that she does.

 

[amazona]

is Bianka is indy now?. since when?

 

[man77777]

I just checked Bianka's ad and i would like to point out that it is refreshing to see a young lady who starts her career as an indy by showing some intelligence when it comes to pricing.

Yeah we all have to encourage this kind of initiative...

 

[Maria Divina]

When a lady is becoming Indy, and keeping an "agency donation level", she will be surrounded by demands, because it is the best of both worlds for "clients" of LDL (is this the right acronym?) (Note that I become Indy exactly the way of keeping the same donation, I know exactly what I am talking about.)

but she will be more than ever hard to book, at first.

And second, after a while, if the interminable session of answering to emails/phones is too much for her
she will finish to raise her donation, and have a comfortable level of demands or
return back to an agency, discouraged by all the management part.

Of course, for some member of Merb who are writing in this thread,
I can understand all your concerns about the levels of donations,
because for you, who have written, it seems than something like 40-60$ is a big concern for your budget,
much more of which lady/girl you want to spend time with.

For you, as I can see, this girl or another one for you, doesn't make any difference at the end.

You really don't care, and that's good food for thought, for me,

and probably too, for all the girls/ladies who are reading you.

 

[man77777]

for you, who have written, it seems than something like 40-60$ is a big concern for your budget,
much more of which lady/girl you want to spend time with.

For you, as I can see, this girl or another one for you, doesn't make any difference at the end.

You're wrong. As we all said, if Summer and Keli were big star, with incredible attitude AND look, we could think about paying 220 or maybe 240$... (That why we compared them to Mikaela).

 

[Doc Holliday]

I just checked Bianka's ad and i would like to point out that it is refreshing to see a young lady who starts her career as an indy by showing some intelligence when it comes to pricing.

Count me in as one of her new fans & future regular clients, as long as she doesn't give in to the temptation & price herself out of the limits i've set for myself in how much i'm willing to pay in order to allow a courtisan the pleasure of spending time in my company.

Seriously, Bianka just got herself on my TDL and i'm planning to see her at least once per upcoming trip.

Bravo to Bianka, and may she succeed mightily as an independent. :thumb: