How Can an Escort Tell your Ethnicity?

[observer29]

I never said escorts should or could ban white clients. I would not ban white clients any more than I would clients of other races?? I'm just saying that banning clients based on this criteria even if they are acting appropriately is discriminatory. And honestly depending on the person, it's not necessarily true that 70% of the clients would disappear.. Some escorts mostly have black and brown clients.. I'd say for me it's 50-60% white clients.. It really depends, too. I feel like you don't really understand the point I'm making.. My point is that actually the reasons why certain women say they are banning clients who are black and brown could also apply to white clients as well. They are just bad client behaviors that clients of any race could have.

If someone is a good client it doesn't matter what race he is. There are other reasons to refuse clients that are much more obvious to me.

My point was that providers couldnt cut off white clients because they are the majority in Montreal, and they would lose the bulk of their business. Vs with black or brown people, they might be able to get away with it and see no loss.

Montreal is a majority white city, it would make sense that the majority of clients were white. That doesnt even take into consideration how expensive this hobby is, and that further skews who could be a potential client.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

My point was that providers couldnt cut off white clients because they are the majority in Montreal, and they would lose the bulk of their business. Vs with black or brown people, they might be able to get away with it and see no loss.

Montreal is a majority white city, it would make sense that the majority of clients were white. That doesnt even take into consideration how expensive this hobby is, and that further skews who could be a potential client.

You're still not getting my point .... And it's very easy to understand. It doesn't make sense to discriminate against one type of client if everyone has the potential to act the same. That is my point.

What you're saying is also not true because for instance at one massage parlor I worked at in a certain neighborhood, a large number of clients weren't white.

You're also forgetting that a lot of people who see escorts in Montreal are not even from here. They come from the suburbs, from the US and other provinces. That is a very well known fact.

You're also assuming that everyone who sees providers can afford to treat this as a "hobby' and does this often with several different providers, when actually most clients just see one or two providers or just sees one person once in a while.

 

[overfiend]

From my convos with some SP's:

Black: usually because it's so big it hurts them, and they are a bit tougher

Indians: the ones with a heavy accent and curry smell. They tend to start a negotiation to have the maximum amount of services possible.

You can talk about racism all you want, but when girls see a trend, they have the right to refuse.
I love it when ads of any SP writes exactly what they offer and what to expect

But not all Black are heavily endowered and not all Indians love to Nego or smell like curry...that is kind of stereotypical and racist....coming back to my point "you can blanket " an ethnicity or race because some have such attributes and mannerisms

 

[overfiend]

From a Legal Perspective

She can choose her clients, her working conditions, and her rates.
Yes, she may refuse any client for any personal reason — including ethnic origin, age, gender, weight, etc. — without it being considered illegal discrimination, since the service is based on her personal consent within a private context.

However, if she refuses a client on an ethnic or racial basis while working for an agency, this could be considered illegal discrimination, because the agency offers a public service. Both the federal and provincial Human Rights Charters apply to businesses.

From an Ethical Perspective

The issue involves a tension between the principle of individual consent and the principle of equality and non-discrimination.

It is therefore legitimate for a sex worker to exercise full control over her own body.
However, a refusal based solely on a client’s ethnic origin, without any connection to her comfort or personal experience, remains ethically questionable, as it risks reinforcing discrimination and prejudice.

My point exactly...she works for an Agency and Euphoria even states it in plain view . If she was indie...well i would not mind. Look not saying that humans are perfect and we are not racist and so forth.....but in todays world where we promote multiculturism and diversity...for whatever purpose possible in a landscape that has changed and changing , especially when ethnocentrism is dying slowly...well supposedly, i am not saying we should all chant "kumbaya" and hack everything down as if we are all one people now under the same banner. But at least it is wrong to write it so evident and in plain view. Where is their hypocrisy on this ...where is their talent at masking it? Where are these women's work ethics so to speak , because i am sure they love equality and hate being singled out by any kind of discriminions themselves, yet they afford such to others. Yup sure you hate some color or ethnicity...but cant they keep that disguised or on the low.

 

[overfiend]

I don't understand the legal context either. Hypothetical situation #1: an escort shows up at a client's hotel room. Upon the client opening the door, the escort observes that he is an Indian client, a group she doesn't service. She informs the client, bluntly, "sorry, but I do not service Indian clients." She then walks out, leaving the client holding his boner.

Can he sue for illegal discrimination? Of course not, because he was engaged in an illegal activity. There is no discrimination. Under the law, the transaction is "void ab initio"- void from inception due to illegality. Therefore, no illegal discrimination could occur. At most it was non--actionable prejudice against an ethnicity.

Hypothetical situation #2: an escort shows up at client's hotel room. She has advertised to the client her rate is $300 per hour. The client hands the escort $300. She says to the client, "thank you. I just need to go downstairs and pay the driver." She doesn't come back.

Let's assume the client knows the escort's full name and address. Can he bring a small claims lawsuit against her, for breach of contract?

Answer: No. This lawsuit would be dismissed by any Judge in any court of competent jurisdiction in the USA or Canada. Anyone who has studied law and taken a course in contracts knows that the consideration for a contract cannot be meretricious or for services not allowed under the law. There is no contract and the $300 may not be returned, nor the contract enforced, on a breach of contract theory.

Can the client pursue a misdemeanor theft charge with the police?

On these same facts in the USA, under no circumstances as you would be admitting to a misdemeanor in order to pursue a misdemeanor charge which, in all likelihood, would not be charged. More likely is that the client would be charged if he foolishly pursued this with the police.

On these same facts in Montreal, I suspect the same analysis would apply.

So bringing up laws and legal rights is all bullshit because none of it is enforceable in Court. If it's not enforceable in Court it's not only bullshit, but bullshit in its purest and most unadulterated form. It's Super Bullshit.

By the way, I have an actual law degree and I have passed the bar in 3 US jurisdictions. You would be surprised that questions like the ones I posted above make their way onto law school exams (contracts and criminal law) and in some form on bar exams as well. Law school professors try to trick you into allowing yourself to think like a civilian instead of a lawyer. That's what separates the lawyers from the civilians in the tested group.

Sheehan v. Samuelson (2023 NSSM 27) might beg to differ even if was reversed but i feel something will come up anyday where clients could take any escort to court for some kind of scenario

 

[EagerBeaver]

Sheehan v. Samuelson (2023 NSSM 27) might beg to differ even if was reversed but i feel something will come up anyday where clients could take any escort to court for some kind of scenario

Not in any jurisdiction where soliciting prostitution is illegal.