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Just curious, cancellation fee of 50%, how do you enforce that?
We can't force.. but some ask deposit ... some provider don't refound it if cancel less than 24-48 h... I always ask it... isualy customer who really want to see you will compensate ... but if he don't next time gonna ask obligated deposit.. or might refuse this person... I understand sometimes something come up.. but its like the hairdress... 1h appointements is 3h. . 1h service 1h texting + transportation to the incall 1h or cleaning the incall... a lot provider reserve an incall ... so $ other fees... just thing we don't do it for fun... yes I like my job... its the way we pay the rent & food
 
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I'm still a same guy 6 moths or 3 years ago...So i don't understand that kind of 6 months reference ...!

The explanation : there have been instances of bad clients acting right with one escort so he could gain a good reference and then go on to abuse other escorts. So when a client asks you to give him a reference after so much time has passed, it can be a red flag that maybe you're the only one he was nice to in order to get a good reference from you whenever the need arises. We don't want to be the one to give a good reference to a client who turns out to be abusive to the other lady, so we are suspicious of clients asking for references 6 months or more after meeting. Why does he not have a more recent reference to give? We understand that some people genuinely don't see escorts often at all, however we can't take that risk as it could put a colleague in danger!

Just curious, cancellation fee of 50%, how do you enforce that?

Well, I screen clients, so I only book people who are serious nowadays (as opposed to when I didn't have enough regulars to be able to afford to screen). Majority of my clients send a deposit, or a reference or review board handle if no deposit. Most serious clients have no problem sending a cancellation fee if they cancel, as my policy is stated on my website and I also often confirm it during the booking process so they have no excuse. I guess they also don't want to miss out on the opportunity to reschedule, because that would mean they never get a Julia Sky blowjob and that would be a tragedy, hahaha. When they cancel and don't pay the cancellation fee, they get blacklisted. Hope this helps :)

reason for touring so often (unless they love visiting these places that much), is likely because they ain't getting enough business in Montreal and well ill let you put 2 and 2 together.

Nope. The math is not mathing here. We mostly tour because exploring other cities is fun, and we have admirers in other cities, so it's good to build a clientele in cities across the country. That way when you travel you have regulars and they also will book you when they come to your home city. You wouldn't say that a company has slow business just because they have conferences in different cities regularly, would you? Quite the opposite, even. Touring is so expensive it actually would not be possible if we made no money at home.

When i see an expensive indy post "available" every day in her add thread im like ... well... business must be low.

So true, that's why McDonald's has ads on TV every day, their business is super slow. /sarcasm

You can have 4 bookings planned and still post that you're available, either because you have an opening at a certain time, or because it will bump your ad to the top where people who want to pre-book will see it and might book you. It's all marketting. I used to have my account on a certain site set to post an ad every single hour of every day, even when I was sleeping. Doesn't mean business was slow, but it does mean my ad was seen by a lot of people and I built a pretty solid regular clientele that way.

what does slhobbyst mean?

slobbyist*

slob + hobbyist
 

Cap'tain Fantastic

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For the review : only possitive should be allowed. If negative will be about the cleaning, bad organisation, bad connexion, bad hygiene.
I have to add bad attitude, bad services, being cold and distant, and bad social skills(shyness is one thing, awkward behaviour or conversation is something else).
 
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Why does he not have a more recent reference to give? We understand that some people genuinely don't see escorts often at all, however we can't take that risk as it could put a colleague in danger!
In my case personally (wich is the situation i can comment), i usually see an escort every 2-3 months. And considering i will have to return to hotels full time now, i think i will try to space them out every 3 months and hopefully see 2 in 1 day like i did this weekend. So that basically let 2 different days every 6 months. I also use agencies majority of the time so that let indies every 6 months or less unlikely. Its a short window imo. I understand your point, im sure there are guys who are like that, basically cheat their way on references, but as i said in my post before i think a long time board handle (with a post/review history) should be a good reference in itself. But im aware as well that there is only so few of us long time members and a lot are just lurkers or not even on merb. Im just mentioning it as an option, wich granted some providers do accept tough.

Nope. The math is not mathing here. We mostly tour because exploring other cities is fun, and we have admirers in other cities, so it's good to build a clientele in cities across the country. That way when you travel you have regulars and they also will book you when they come to your home city. You wouldn't say that a company has slow business just because they have conferences in different cities regularly, would you? Quite the opposite, even. Touring is so expensive it actually would not be possible if we made no money at home.

Everybody is different, i am sure some peoples enjoy visiting other cities yes as you say. But i wonder for the peoples who go often at the far end of the country how the travel can take a toll. Most of the time when i see touring the providers don't spend a huge time there, sometimes 4-5 days before they move and they see clients on every days, its not much about visiting and its more business. Staying inside an hotel room ain't exactly pleasant traveling plans imo. I will be blunt but i do think its because having clients all over Canada and only visiting them once every few months mean its easier to get high rollers. Also the western Canada guys are used to pay more in general as well and i been told that GFE is less expected to be included over there.

So true, that's why McDonald's has ads on TV every day, their business is super slow. /sarcasm

I don't think you can compare a provider to a chain of restaurants. I will give you an exemple, Sonia Von Sacher often advertise she is fully booked months in advance. I don't see her post that she's available on same day bookings (wich is usually something a provider do when she is actually available that day, she wouldn't post this if its to pre-book later in the week, she would put the day she has spots open. She has gain a huge notoriety (well earned) for various reasons and no matter how she charge (wich i have genuinly do not looked) she has her regulars and very high roller based on her insta stories. Lots of fly her to them and such.

I litteraly saw someone mention lately she was tired of "wasting her time" in a certain city. I assume by that post the phone was not ringing often. It was a smaller market granted but still...

The Leo auto-ads im very well aware, and its a way to do it as you say, but its different than what i was speaking here or just a "bump"

slobbyist*

slob + hobbyist

Its such a degratory term. Personally i really dislike it, especially since its used commonly by some providers even for what is perfectly normal behaviors sometimes. The simple fact of being on a review board is enough to be labelled this way by some... ;-(
 
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Cap'tain Fantastic

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Staying inside an hotel room ain't exactly pleasant traveling plans imo.
You can't dismiss the ones that are very well known and have clients booking them 4-6 hours, eating out, going to shows or exhibits, shopping and ending the evening having sex for an hour or so. Some of these girls make serious money and will never go back to doing 60 minutes johns. Not all wallets are the same!
 

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I'm sorry, I didnt want to be negative in my first thread. Positive only ++
You didn’t come across as negative and I, hopefully we, all like to hear from the ladies that we visit or wish to visit whether we agree with all their points or not. It helps to know what you need from us to keep you safe and happy.
Most of us are not stupid people what purpose would it serve to see a provider and have her upset with you for any reason when you go see her.


You are right about time wasters and men who didn’t bother to read your web sight and ask questions that are already explained.
I fully agree with and understand a cancellation policy also. If I book you and have to cancel 24 hours before for whatever reason I will pay you the full amount, first because it is the right thing to do but even more importantly is that my word will always be worth more than a couple of hundred dollars.

What I will not do is send a deposit by e transfer or by any other means that will link you to my real name and identity.
One reason is I have been burned with that before the other is why would I give out my real identity to someone who I don’t know.
I am single and have nothing to hide but don’t exactly want to advertise what I do privately.
I may send a photo of a gift card front and back as a deposit through email but even that I will only do with a provider who has a long standing history and like you ladies I will ask my ATF or one of the other ladies that I have known for years if she is reliable..
References from other providers I am more than happy to provide.
One thing I would never do is send a deposit to someone who I have seen before, to be honest that is kind of insulting. If they ask I will just move on.

We all have different reasons for seeing a provider and different tastes that is normal.
Some like to see many different ladies and hardly ever repeat and others like me see few and for many years and have become friends with a few of the ladies I see.

It all comes down to respecting each other and doing the little things that show the other person that you value their companionship and their kindness.
Yes it is a money transaction but we are all human and we can so easily make it so much more pleasant.
I have been lucky with the ladies I have seen and with one in particular, she has been a total angel from the first time I met her.
 

Shantie_mtl

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The explanation : there have been instances of bad clients acting right with one escort so he could gain a good reference and then go on to abuse other escorts. So when a client asks you to give him a reference after so much time has passed, it can be a red flag that maybe you're the only one he was nice to in order to get a good reference from you whenever the need arises. We don't want to be the one to give a good reference to a client who turns out to be abusive to the other lady, so we are suspicious of clients asking for references 6 months or more after meeting. Why does he not have a more recent reference to give? We understand that some people genuinely don't see escorts often at all, however we can't take that risk as it could put a colleague in danger!



Well, I screen clients, so I only book people who are serious nowadays (as opposed to when I didn't have enough regulars to be able to afford to screen). Majority of my clients send a deposit, or a reference or review board handle if no deposit. Most serious clients have no problem sending a cancellation fee if they cancel, as my policy is stated on my website and I also often confirm it during the booking process so they have no excuse. I guess they also don't want to miss out on the opportunity to reschedule, because that would mean they never get a Julia Sky blowjob and that would be a tragedy, hahaha. When they cancel and don't pay the cancellation fee, they get blacklisted. Hope this helps :)



Nope. The math is not mathing here. We mostly tour because exploring other cities is fun, and we have admirers in other cities, so it's good to build a clientele in cities across the country. That way when you travel you have regulars and they also will book you when they come to your home city. You wouldn't say that a company has slow business just because they have conferences in different cities regularly, would you? Quite the opposite, even. Touring is so expensive it actually would not be possible if we made no money at home.



So true, that's why McDonald's has ads on TV every day, their business is super slow. /sarcasm

You can have 4 bookings planned and still post that you're available, either because you have an opening at a certain time, or because it will bump your ad to the top where people who want to pre-book will see it and might book you. It's all marketting. I used to have my account on a certain site set to post an ad every single hour of every day, even when I was sleeping. Doesn't mean business was slow, but it does mean my ad was seen by a lot of people and I built a pretty solid regular clientele that way.



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Yes I post I'm available when I sleep... because some text me during the night and we book for early morning like 6h30 am.... I will always post as much I can .. I have so much request for virtual.... and subscrition on my of
 

Shantie_mtl

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Shantie, tu es drôle à lire, dans tes phrases en anglais, des fois tu mets des accents :) LOL ça fait ma journée. Bonne continuation !! Merci de faire que l'on devienne de meilleurs hommes !
Merci ! Je me prends pas au sérieux... je cherche pas à avoir l'air parfaite.. :) j'aime les gens me prennent avec mon authencite.. j'ai de la difficulté avec mon keyboard parfois.. je suis en plein sablage de plancher donc mes doigts en arrache un peu... je suis très contente que les gens ont prit mon thread comme constructif !! Je crois qu'il y a une ouverture pour une belle progression !!!
 

Shantie_mtl

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I have to add bad attitude, bad services, being cold and distant, and bad social skills(shyness is one thing, awkward behaviour or conversation is something else).
That its the thing we can put. I dont mind about that, but one guy write I was stress in one of my reviews.. but might be him who make me inconfortable, because almost everybody tell them feel so much confortable.. because I lot of person are shy... maybe we can have a général list of standard to say yes or no
 

Shantie_mtl

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What the effing hell happened to this hobby?!?!?!?

That is all I can say/ask.

WTF?!?!?!
I understand its might be complicated... but we make it better and safer.. with the covid we see a lot the life différent.. i will never accept any amount of money for something who make me uncomfortable, I'm really impressed by the quality of the provider I meet around and their kindness & intelligence.. you get not a mechanux interaction but a connexion & experience
 

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That its the thing we can put. I dont mind about that, but one guy write I was stress in one of my reviews.. but might be him who make me inconfortable, because almost everybody tell them feel so much confortable.. because I lot of person are shy... maybe we can have a général list of standard to say yes or no
Its kind of easy to skim the bad client reviews from the more serious ones. A few bad reviews can pop up on a thread where the general concensus is pointing in the other direction, I dont think a lot of us get fooled. I, personnaly, keep some kind of mental list of members that I actually dont even bother to read.
 

Shantie_mtl

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Its kind of easy to skim the bad client reviews from the more serious ones. A few bad reviews can pop up on a thread where the general concensus is pointing in the other direction, I dont think a lot of us get fooled. I, personnaly, keep some kind of mental list of members that I actually dont even bother to read.

I hope the majority can see that aswell... but the only thing some provider after have read a bad review have cry... I dont like to put down human.. sex and connection is a big gamble...

I love to meet person ... I make friend everywhere.... an any age... but some person .. I dont why .... just don't work.. and I feel emba4
 

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Well said. You are absolutely correct. I agree that you are human, just like everyone else here, and that no matter what you do for a living, you are ultimately the same. Every client, in my opinion, should be gentle, generous, in a good mood, good attitude and respectful with a SP. People don't realise how much work it takes to do this job, how mentally draining it is, and how you never know what you're getting yourself into with a new client. I know a lot of girls who have been doing this job for a long time and are all confused and depressed, and they are all seeing a psychologist. It eventually catches up with you. Kudos to you for starting this important topic.
 
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I just don't understand why guys can't just shut up, follow a lady's preferences and get on with the sex. Every business sets its own processes and standards. If we don't like them, we go somewhere else and we move on. We need to stop trying to mansplain shit to the ladies who know themselves and their businesses far beter than we do
 

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I just don't understand why guys can't just shut up, follow a lady's preferences and get on with the sex. Every business sets its own processes and standards. If we don't like them, we go somewhere else and we move on. We need to stop trying to mansplain shit to the ladies who know themselves and their businesses far beter than we do
You are completely correct, my friend. Instead of respecting a lady's preference, they take it personally and begin bashing her for no apparent reason. Maybe the problem isn't with the lady, but with them. They should make adjustments with themselves, not with the lady.
 

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Most of the time when i see touring the providers don't spend a huge time there, sometimes 4-5 days before they move and they see clients on every days, its not much about visiting and its more business. Staying inside an hotel room ain't exactly pleasant traveling plans imo.

I saw client every day on my trip to Ottawa and I also went out to bars, restaurants, the market, did some shopping... As it turns out, most clients don't book 8 hours and seeing a client or 2 or even 5 doesn't mean a lady doesn't have time to do something else after or in between calls... Imagine saying "You work every day, you sit in an office all day so you obviously don't have a life outside of work". If so many clients work all day and still find the time to pay for pussy after work, I'm sure an escort can find the time to explore on a trip as well ;)

I don't think you can compare a provider to a chain of restaurants. I will give you an exemple, Sonia Von Sacher often advertise she is fully booked months in advance.

I'm comparing a business with a business, don't get it twisted! I could have used a smaller business and the same would apply. In any business, advertising does not mean you're not busy, it just ensures you will *stay* busy. I've been a business owner for seven years, Mike. Why would you try to talk over me and tell me that I'm wrong in regards to my experience? On the other hand, Sonia is at the influencer level, of course she's super busy, but even then : her notoriery acts as advertising. People see her. They know she exists. It's the equivalent of a lesser-known girl posting ads. Sonia gained many clients by being so present online and having a big following. It's not rocket science, it's marketting 101. And I'd like to point out that "fully booked" has a different meaning for everyone. It's not about being booked all day, it's about reaching the number of bookings you're comfortable (or have the time) taking that day. I recall Sonia herself making this point more than once in her stories. She is fully booked because she is selective. Not because she necessarily sees more clients than someone else. Someone can be fully booked with one appointment every 2 days, and someone else can have 4 appointments in one day and not consider that fully booked - everyone runs their business differently.
 
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