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LC18

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I was complaining about general rate increases (far in excess of general inflation). That's hardly rate shaming.

And every 5 weeks there’s a new thread about rate increases like people don’t have eyes to see it for themselves ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

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And every 5 weeks there’s a new thread about rate increases like people don’t have eyes to see it for themselves ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I don’t see the point in complaining about rates other than acknowledging that they have substantially increased.
You can either afford it or not, like everything else in life.
Seeing SP is a luxury not everyone can afford, yes it sucks but everyone makes their own luck in life, and luckily you are in a free country where all things are possible.
 

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I have noticed that many SPs I see raised their rates this year, it was a substantial amount and whether it was an annual rate increase or an increase due to inflation is irrelevant.

It has meant that I see SPs fewer times in a month. I have opted instead to go back to the massage parlours and entertain myself there at a cheaper rate with obviously fewer finishing options.

Two mamasans I know recently told me that business had slowed considerably at their establishments. If it is slowing at their level I would imagine the same trend is occurring at the agencies.
 
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The economy is a factor for sure, but I also think the mood of the country (or countries) isn’t as festive as it once was. It used to be party time in America and Canada. Maybe folks aren’t as sexual or festive? And just perhaps escort quality has regressed a bit, so that’s a factor. Even here in NNJ it doesn’t seem to be as active.

I think you're referring to optimism. People right now just aren't very optimistic about the economy, the world, the environment or their futures/prospects in general. It seems like every other day a major company is downsizing or another restaurant is closing down.

It's crazy to think that just a couple of years ago during the bitcoin/crypto/NFT bubble that everyone was super optimistic and they were spending like crazy on everything including escorts. Prices, during that time, for everything and anything from condos to G wagons didn't seem to matter.
 

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I think you're referring to optimism. People right now just aren't very optimistic about the economy, the world, the environment or their futures/prospects in general. It seems like every other day a major company is downsizing or another restaurant is closing down.

It's crazy to think that just a couple of years ago during the bitcoin/crypto/NFT bubble that everyone was super optimistic and they were spending like crazy on everything including escorts. Prices, during that time, for everything and anything from condos to G wagons didn't seem to matter.

Yes!. Thanks. Hope and optimism are precisely what I was referring to, and those feelings did manifest in fun, festive, and friendly behavior, including in an escort environment.

The mood of the country was more joyful a few years ago for sure. Spending habits were as you suggest. People weren’t as on edge.

But now, walking around NYC and NJ people look dejected (when they look up from their phones). Weird.

Maybe the world will get back to that point and the good times will roll again!
 

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If times were tough, SP prices would fall.
More young SPs would enter the hobby.

Neither is occurring.
I really hope this will be the case. That's why there was so much pushback when the agencies started raising their prices. IMHO once the price goes up there is no way they will ever come back down. Maybe they keep the prices the same and upcharge for Ubers, reservation fees or incall supplies. But sadly, I don't ever see the prices coming down.
 
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I really hope this will be the case. That's why there was so much pushback when the agencies started raising their prices. IMHO once the price goes up there is no way they will ever come back down. Maybe they keep the prices the same and upcharge for Ubers, reservation fees or incall supplies. But sadly, I don't ever see the prices coming down.

Hold on, you are hoping that times will be rough for people so that you can pay less to f***?

Eh ben…édifiant
 

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No. I'm hoping that prices come down, lets not be ridiculous.
Most probably there will be new entrants to the market with cheaper prices instead of prices going down. Whenever there is a new opportunity or demand in the market, it usually gets filled by supply. However, it would be interesting to see if the quality would be the same.
 

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I recently heard that in Toronto, the agency is relatively quiet, leading many service providers from Toronto to come to Montreal for work. Usually, it’s the contrary.
 

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I recently heard that in Toronto, the agency is relatively quiet, leading many service providers from Toronto to come to Montreal for work. Usually, it’s the contrary.
They just get back.
 
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so that you can pay less to f***
This is ridiculous thinking and it is not a personal thing just basic human nature.
Why would anybody want prices to go up. Do you want prices to go up whenever you buy something.
Wanting prices to go down is quite normal and it has nothing to do with wanting something bad for the SW community.
Hopefully if prices go down it will go down across the board on everything including housing, food, gas.

If however we are being realistic pricing will not go down on anything including SP.

If it does go down however it will probably not make anybodies life easier because it will mean that there is a recession and everybody will suffer including SP.
 

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This is ridiculous thinking and it is not a personal thing just basic human nature.
Why would anybody want prices to go up. Do you want prices to go up whenever you buy something.
Wanting prices to go down is quite normal and it has nothing to do with wanting something bad for the SW community.
Hopefully if prices go down it will go down across the board on everything including housing, food, gas.

If however we are being realistic pricing will not go down on anything including SP.

If it does go down however it will probably not make anybodies life easier because it will mean that there is a recession and everybody will suffer including SP.
I completely agree with your viewpoint. I believe that the prices set by service providers are not inflated; they are quite standard. If prices were to drop, it would be disrespectful to the entire community of service providers.
 
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