I think it comes down to the minimum amount a person is comfortable with in order to provide services. It can’t be the same for everyone. Of course a provider can look at what others are advertising, but that doesn’t mean she will accept the same rates. I guess it’s common sense, but that’s why rates are usually not negotiable. It’s not a common commodity that responses strictly to market pressures.
Is business slowing down?
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Great theory, but in practice I’d like to know what other hobbies would be an adequate replacement. Windsurfing?
You won’t be doing pro-boner work I guess?!
Eveything responds to market pressure. If you have rates that nobody is willing to pay then you are shit out of luck and will either have to adjust or do something else for a living.
That is why you are starting to see Halloween specials, duo specials and as the economy gets worse and the slower winter months approach you will see more of this.
This again is not necessarily a good thing for the average guy because the same market pressures on SP will also way on them, food housing gas etc… has gone up for everyone so even a drop in SP pricing may not help.
Some popular ladies and the ones with a larger regular clientele will probably still do ok and be able to maintain their rates.
I suspect it will hit Indy’s harder as their rates are 50 to 60% higher than agencies and clients will gravitate towards the agencies if they can’t afford the Indies.
This is not really a good thing for anybody but the market will sort it out, supply and demand will always be the determining factor.
Depends on each individual and what their interests are.
If you are obsessed with sex then obviously there is no adequate replacement.
Exactly but you know when prices go up they never go back down. Plus since covid ppl have gone crazy going out and to travel. Since two years there are so many tourists and it has not slowed down one bit. I figured after two years the excitement from being locked up would fade, no way it is.
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I appreciate your analysis. That's amazing that you know the price in 2001!
I do think agency prices haven't risen that much above inflation, and possibly at inflation.
Bank of Canada reports inflation at 18% since 2019 (pre-Covid). I'm thinking agencies have increased from $220 to $260 (correct?). So that's exactly18%. https://www.bankofcanada.ca/rates/related/inflation-calculator/
This agrees with Rebaynia's analysis that agency pricing is pretty consistent with overall pricing.
i see indy's increasing their prices more than inflation. My observation is that indy's increased pricing 25-30% since 2019. So about 7-12% above inflation.
I have no idea why indy pricing increased faster than agency pricing and faster than inflation.
Switching now to how indys set pricing. I'm assuming each girl is not trying to optimize total income, but rather trying to see as few as clients as necessary to meet their monthly income goals. This is very different then other industries, where you can maximize profit and income by lowering prices and making it up on volume. Increasing volume is hard work for providers. Not being a provider myself
, i'm just guessing at this part, so I could be wrong.
It's not a complete picture, any more than Rebaynia's picture is complete (because of the selection bias) because everyone wants to measure the difference in cost relative to inflation, but it's not about inflation, it's about purchasing power. In order to measure the degree to which inflation impacts people's spending habits you also need to know about salary increases and whether those salaries have kept up with inflation or not. So, to say that inflation is 18% and the cost of agencies has gone up 18% doesn't really mean anything unless you know whether salaries have gone up 18% or more, or whether they have only gone up 9%, for example. If the salary increases haven't kept up with inflation then purchasing power is less and consequently people can afford less of the extras, even if inflation and agency cost increases are exactly the same. To further complicate matters salary, inflation and rate adjustments vary by region, so you can't even really use federal stats reliably to give you a regional outlook. Honestly, people's anecdotal experiences on here are probably as good an indication as any if you take the entire community's comments into account as far as their spending goes. General consensus seems to be costs are up and so spending less on fun. Anybody who wants better numbers will need to do a much deeper dive than I'm willing to do. lolI appreciate your analysis. That's amazing that you know the price in 2001!
I do think agency prices haven't risen that much above inflation, and possibly at inflation.
Bank of Canada reports inflation at 18% since 2019 (pre-Covid). I'm thinking agencies have increased from $220 to $260 (correct?). So that's exactly18%. https://www.bankofcanada.ca/rates/related/inflation-calculator/
This agrees with Rebaynia's analysis that agency pricing is pretty consistent with overall pricing.
i see indy's increasing their prices more than inflation. My observation is that indy's increased pricing 25-30% since 2019. So about 7-12% above inflation.
I have no idea why indy pricing increased faster than agency pricing and faster than inflation.
Switching now to how indys set pricing. I'm assuming each girl is not trying to optimize total income, but rather trying to see as few as clients as necessary to meet their monthly income goals. This is very different then other industries, where you can maximize profit and income by lowering prices and making it up on volume. Increasing volume is hard work for providers. Not being a provider myself
Reading some of these analytical comments looks more like a high end university doctorate thesis group for who's best.
Just wondering if SPs, Agencies and Salon owners go through all this elaborate numerical hastle ... I doubt it.
Just wondering if SPs, Agencies and Salon owners go through all this elaborate numerical hastle ... I doubt it.
I was going to say prices will never come down, but yesterday St-Hubert announced that they were lowering their menu prices (only on "extras", not the main courses) because business was slowing down (at least -10%), so we never know.
With my apologies for the always too- easy restaurant/sex worker analogy.
Source: https://www.lapresse.ca/affaires/en...en-restauration/st-hubert-revoit-ses-prix.php
With my apologies for the always too- easy restaurant/sex worker analogy.
Source: https://www.lapresse.ca/affaires/en...en-restauration/st-hubert-revoit-ses-prix.php
Lol.. not so amazing, when you take into account I worked for an agency when I was 18-19, and took a 20 year hiatus before returning to the industry 2 years ago at 39.
If you eat Mcdonalds they also brought in their $5 trio menu, just horrible food, but for those who cannot afford higher prices for better food, it is what's available.
As you say, they haven't lowered the price of the whole menu, but the price of extras and the special lunch menu. I stopped requiring a deposit for incall, and an extra for outcall. It's the same kind of adjustments we do in this industry that have an impact on our income, but clients rarely notice those changes. We are adapting as well, and there are many things to look for other than a change in our hourly rate.
I would like to add that at some point when providers have worked for years in this industry and have built a good name for themselves, a lot of them will simply leave the industry rather than notably lower their rates. Let's say business is dramatically slowing down, I'd rather see two clients a month at my current rates just for some extra cash and put my energy into my civilian career full-time.
i love mcdonalds! this is gotta be one the best comedy bits of all time that speaks the truth about mcdonalds lol
I still hate McDonald's, but I now view Merb in a different light, "everything is McDonald's".
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