Is LFK or DFK are that importants?!?

[montreal_monk01]

Just as long as the gem that I am with is fully satisfied and has come a few times during the hour, I'm happy with that.
The choice thing goes both ways, guys should not soup up an SP if she really doesn't look "all that", and SPs should refuse a date if she is realy not feeling a particular hobbyist.
That is why here in the states it is called"The Game" cause sincerity wins out over subterfuge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well stated. It's not just a question of DFK or LFK. It's the entire experience itself that counts. As an sp, you can DFK...but if it's not inspired, it will play against you. So just don't do it if it's gonna be provided against your desire.
The problem lies in what you restrict. If you have a shopping list of restrictions, just keep in mind that it's natural common sense that your customer may not come back and will be left on his appetite! If I was an sp, I would first put my self in the role of my customer and make sure to compensate one restriction by something somehow great. It all comes to this: 'it's in human nature to seek the most for your bucks'.

 

[korbel]

Overdone.

Hello all,

Six pages on kissing during a meeting huh. Is this getting a bit overdone? Well, most of us have acknowledged the rights of the lady to provide service as she wishes. Several of us have noted she should be aware of what her agency requires. Nearly all of us are very sympathetic about the pressure SPs face and the odious animals they meet sometimes. Then there is the supply and demand aspect that makes the industry what it is. Okay, what else. In the end ladies...you make the choices to work, leave, or quit. Take control. If you choose to stay you know the issues and problems you face. Don't expect all the men you meet to be Sir Gallahads with all the understanding in the world. There are a lot of "white knights" out there and a lot of beasts and you can't know which you will meet on any given call. Damn, if I had to deal with all the customers I meet so intimately I wouldn't do it. But you choose to. So deal with your choice as best as you can. Find an agency that supports your views or move on because you will never change every hobbyist no matter how much support this board or any other gives you. It's up to you the SP.

Kisses,

Korbel

 

[johnmbot]

I think she was the genuine article, basing myself in part on her responses to my own comments...

baaa......

 

[Special K]

I think she was the genuine article, basing myself in part on her responses to my own comments. Why would someone from another agency say that they would only work for Eleganza?

Then why has she visited Merb in the last 24 hours and not responded to this whole mess that she's started?

 

[Special K]

What is she going to say?

What would you say if you were her?

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Yes, yes, yes, I promise to enjoy it from now on, even with Trolls?
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If I started a controversial thread I'd most certainly chime in on it occasionally...unless of course I was just a shit stirrer looking to rile people up and get a reaction.

We'll see what comes of it if anything.

 

[Special K]

Food for thoughts : If you were an agency owner, would you let your girls register and participate on the board ?

Something tells me some girls got lectured in the car last night

They weren't open last night. Lol.

 

[Eleganza babe]

Thanks Happygolucky, I promise I'll tell you!

 

[Eleganza babe]

Thanks Doingittodeath, I have others things to do than waiting for answers. Be sure I read them all, but there's too many coms that I can't answers to all.

 

[Eleganza babe]

Korbel, we can't catch any disease, WE USE CONDOMS!!!!!! And I don't with my boyfriend. So, as some said, KISSING IS THE ONLY THING THAT AN SP CAN KEEP TO SEPARATE HER WORK AND HER PERSONNAL LIFE. WE ARE DOING A SEX JOB SO WE ARE READY TO GIVE SEX, WE DON'T CARE IF THE GUY TALK TO US AS AN ANIMAL, I PREFERE THAT THAN BEING TREAT AS A GIRLFRIEND 'CAUSE I'M HERE FOR SEX!

 

[Eleganza babe]

Hi hormone, here are my answers:
- do you feel the same about greek (I don't want to know if you speak it, just how you feel about the "intimacy" of it) ?
Well, I speak greek sometimes, but it become an extra 'cause it depends of the size of the penis (bigger it is, less I want...) and depend of the context : if I'm really excited, I'll ofer it. And no, I don't think it's intimate, it's sex.

-how do you feel about CIM, about CIMWS then? A lot of girls provide it, is it also pressure? Or is this distinct from affection? Is it part of "normal" sex?
I do accept CIM, rarely swallow 'cause it's scared me a little to swallow that thing....even if I do sometimes.... I consider it as a part of "heavy sex", not normal. Girls who don't provide it, it's because they just think it's disgusting or maybe to keep it personnal. But it's sometime offer as an extra.

 

[mack]

WE DON'T CARE IF THE GUY TALK TO US AS AN ANIMAL, I PREFERE THAT THAN BEING TREAT AS A GIRLFRIEND 'CAUSE I'M HERE FOR SEX!

That's pretty disturbing, actually.

 

[Eleganza babe]

Sorry, I shouldn't use the WE...I DON'T CARE, I'M READY TO IT.

 

[The Snark]

Korbel, we can't catch any disease, WE USE CONDOMS!!!!!!

Ummm, there are a whole range of STDs you can catch even if you use a condom--e.g., gonorrhea, herpes, hepatitis, chlamydia, HPV, syphillis, etc. If you have unprotected oral sex with multiple partners, your chance of contracting one of these diseases is quite high, and you've probably passed it on to your boyfriend.

Needless to say, you can't catch these diseases from kissing.

 

[Eleganza babe]

I appreciate all the answers, sorry if you think it's a joke, it's not because I didn't answered to ya'll that I did it for fun. And I have to say that I lied on Eleganza, I USED to work for, but I stopped few weeks ago...I'm sorry John...I know you should be angry...
After what I read, I can say that:
- even if we are SP who works in agencies, WE CAN SAY OUR OPINION ON MERB (I say that to MARIA), I don't know why we shouln't.
- yes, if I work for a GFE agency and I don't provide LFK/DFK, I should change agency, NO CHANGE MY JOB.
- an appointment depends of a lot of things : MY mood, the customer's mood, the customer's ATTITUDE,....WE CAN'T PROVIDE THE SAME SERVICE TO EVERYONE, WE ARE NOT MACHINES. Sometime we're tired, sometime we're sad, same for you. I know we should separate our feelings and our job, but WE'RE HUMAN.
- RESPECT is the rule. If I don't feel to kiss you, but I promise to give you whatever you want beside that, will you accept my decision or you'll be unrespectfull and say :"I'm sorry, but I call you and it says that you kiss, so kiss me or leave."Believe it or not, IT HAPPENS OFTEN , not only with kissing, but with everything. SO YOU DON'T RESPECT ME.
- As an escort, my service is really good, even if I don't kiss that much, because I have a good attitude, I'm positive, I'm nice, I give massage, AWSOME sex,... and I don't need to kiss to be appreciate.
- I REPEAT, I DO NOT WORK FOR ELEGANZA ANYMORE, sorry if I used the Eleganza name. I tought that because it's one of the top agency in Montreal, it was a good name to use to be listened, and because it's the best exemple for GFE.
- Please, stop writing private messages where you ask me who I am, you'll never know it.

Thanks again for all your coms, bad or good. It helps me and a lot of other girls to know if it's important and why it's or it's not important.
I have to say that some of the one's who answered are ASSHOLES :
- Korbel
- Gohabsgo
- Mr. First (the worst....)
HAPPY NEW YEAR!

 

[Eleganza babe]

THE SNARK, Thank for the STD's list..I'm sure a lot of us (SP and hobbyists) will be happy to know that....even if we all know it, we don't want to.

 

[hobby11]

friends

i think that eleganza babe is not an escort and does not work for eleganza...
just stirring some s.h.i.t. here on the boards...
i think it s a group of unsatisfied people with a lot of guilt...
trust me on this one...

 

[Mr First]

Ce que tu pense de moi me passe 6 pieds au dessu de le tête.

Tu dois avoir mangé un char de merde de John et la tu essai de nous faire croire que tu travail pas pour eleganza trop tard.

Quand on dit que l'on est GFE on l'est point si tu est down un soir ou tu ne vas pas bien RESTE CHEZ TOI moi je paye pour une SERVICE GFE je veux un service GFE et j'ai toujour respecté les filles que j'ai rencontré a dates.

Tu dit ne plus travailler maintenant TANT MIEUX je vais avoir moins de chance de tomber sur toi et tu me traite de asshole moi au moins je ne suis pas HYPOCRITE.

En espérant que tu a arreté de travaillé pour très très longtemps.

 

[newman1]

I believe that the lady who started this thread has a good point
I for myself like very much kissing more than sex because in many instance when I use the condom, I don't feel much simply the condom is turn off for me but I used because I don't want to get disease...
But I can understand her....like some client return an sp if she was not that attractive , it is her right not to kiss since she might not get attracted.....

Some of the merbite are much older than SP and so fo her to kiss them is like she is kissing her father or grand father....so I can understand her....
but again she has to understand that not all merbites are after sex....some of us are after affection....cuddling ...last time I had a meeting with Samantha from xxtase i danced slow with her....we kissed and I felt so satisfied .....She did not allow DATY ...ok but her service were good....as for Syndie from develish...she does not have great body or beauty. But she is awesome kisser....so each sp has her specialty and it is up to her to choose which option make her more marketable. Anyhow I agree with her a lot and I think we should understand....
Regards to all

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

Seems the "lady" who started this thread has been removed from the scene, profile deleted. I'm going to make a batch of brownies and wait for the mods to tell us the whole story.

 

[Regular Guy]

YMMV vs GFE

DoingittoDeath]Whoa, give her a break - she only started this thread last night and unlike too many of us, she probably has other things to do than sit around and monitor the goings-on at MERB all night.

Okay! Been away myself for New Years and as I see now, she has responded. So let me elaborate on a point or two.

In her defence, she's expressing an opinion.

Okay I can buy that. But I and a few others here felt a touch of condescension in her tone. I will grant that perhaps her command of the language is not what it could be. But somehow I just wouldn't quite buy that. But as you say, we all have an opinion.

JustAGirl makes some very good points about respecting someone's limits and making the most of your time together. I've been with many escorts who didn't kiss but that didn't make our time together any less intimate or enjoyable. Our experiences aren't intended to be carbon copies every single time out, are they? Sadly, the hobby is a reflection of our society of entitlement, where the client is always right and deserves everything. Life ain't like that.

Well now that is a nice sentiment. Don't know how well it might go with other engagements in life where performance for a dollar was an issue. How do you quantify an experience then. It could range anywhere from a peck on the cheek and a request for full fee to a “whale of a session!” There has to be a standard somewhere that goes beyond “respecting someone's limits and making the most of your time together.” Now I realize that a session of lovemaking, in terms of quality time, goes a bit beyond the activity of hoeing turnips but there has to be a reasonable criterion and expectation somewhere. GFE means GFE. (Now I believe there is a generally accepted definition somewhere on the site:

GFE = Girl Friend Experience (providing aspects of social and physical interaction beyond the act itself)
Now you can slice it any way you like but I would be willing to bet most here would include LFK and DFK with that.

So let me repeat my benchmark here: Eleganza Babe made the point:

we do that for $money$ not just because we love being here.

My reply?

“Well we say, "we do that for $money$ because we do love being here." “And we like girls who think the way we do.

I do it for money because I love being here. I expect an escort to do it for money because she loves being here. Period.
Maria made the same point early on in the thread. She has it right on.

Now I can live with YMMV. I respect if a girl just can't share to that point of GFE. I am fine with that. I would be willing to allow that she might provide an exceptional PSE. You might walk out of her boudoir looking like a truck had hit you. But I may just need a tad more. So I say to her: Do not stand shoulder to shoulder with that group of sp's whose temperament or love of the profession has earned them the right to tack GFE after their names. Be honest with me and with the other guys here. State at the beginning whether the session is going to be YMMV or GFE and allow them to accept or reject. Let market forces prevail. A GFE girl should by rights rank higher on the scale than a YMMV. They may both rock your world but the GFE girl does it with the personal touch. (Eleganza Babes slant on it BTW)

Finally, I think that a few responses here are taking a very defensive position - her comments aren't aimed at anyone in particular.

Well let's see:

Plus, half of you are a way older than the girls you call (and/or married), so not really attractive for a lot of us. How can you kiss someone that doesn't attract you?!? Ask it to yourself, change roles and imagine you HAVE TO kiss someone that you find ugly or I don't know what.

Kinda looks like she has a target audience, wouldn't you say?

Don't the GFE girls have a right to the business for which they are prepared to offer the premium service? It just seems fair to me.