I didn't mean to say that she will resort to extortion. When I say, she will jump on you, I meant in a good way - as in rip off her clothes and ask "wanna do me ?"
It's Official Canada has adopted Nordic Model Prostitution Law
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Heres an interesting article that mentions the bill
http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/toro...24-hour-drop-in-centre-for-women-is-necessary
They talk about how full of shit Bill C-36 is
http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/toro...24-hour-drop-in-centre-for-women-is-necessary
They talk about how full of shit Bill C-36 is
Here's a website where they have a series of articles, updated regularly, on the topic:
http://www.ipolitics.ca/tag/prostitution-bill/
http://www.ipolitics.ca/tag/prostitution-bill/
I am pretty sure they will go after contact dances here in Montreal sooner rather than later.
I don't think that it will be the kind of offense that is accessible to a potential employer or at costums.
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Hi Patron
Everyone is certainly entitle to is opinion you are A Veteran debater yourself !
You can still be a newbie I have excellent views on any given topic my question was not a attack !
Does the qualification of someone matters ? Well would you gladly book from the worst reviewed agency the worst reviewed escort?
If someone is charge of any criminal act will he hire the worst possible lawyer?
Would anyone go at worst reviewed restaurant ?
Does it matter! it is to each to draw there conclusions
Patron if this is true that experience lawyers does not have a clue what about all the others ?
A broken mechanical watch can provide the right time twice a day !
But I much prefer a well set watch to ensure accuracy !
My point exactly different !
Canadian Criminal law ,The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms,Penal procedure codes ,court precedent,Canadian Supreme Court judgment any lower court are bound by Supreme court ruling even the government as this prostitution law is showing!
It is logical to assume ! I really like this word lets assume and speculate without proper wording of the law !
Assuming that situations never change !!! Hummmm!
Now what if this John that you support gets arrested for any other crime inCanada and decides to use is trump or leverage with all this friendly network and identify all johns !
Is that really safe !
All readers must exercise there judgment!!
Regards all
BookerL
But Patron, if Canada is going to be like the US then why go? In my heart I believe that it will always be better in Montreal. I hope and pray that it will stay better and that this is a speed bump. I dont mind a MILF or two but I like to come and see young girls...sometimes two at a time. Money isn't the most important thing but I still have more money in my pocket after two Montreal 20 year olds than one U.S. 40 year old.
In the present situation indies are usually more experienced and/or go for a lower number of better quality clients. If the new system favors escorts to become independent the situation will be different. I'm not sure that the prices will go up dramatically overall. Everything is cheaper in Montreal and I think it will not change much.
I'm afraid you're right, and tbh, as I have zero interest into 30yo+ SP, it will mean the end of the hobby for me. But as long as there will be 18-22 hotties, I will continue, even if the risk is high and no matter how much it will cost...
Another reason not to worry too much: they can tell the police to arrest more johns, but they can't order the judges to convict them. Harper says that it is the role of the government to make laws, not the judges. That's true, but ultimately it is the judges who will apply the law. The present bill is an insult to the court decision and the justice system. I would think the judges will show little enthusiast in applying this law. Even if government gives millions to the police, if the judges see the law as a personal insult to them, they might be very lax in their interpretation of the law during trials.
Once again, Harper would look good to his voters and blame the liberal judges for not enforcing the law.
Once again, Harper would look good to his voters and blame the liberal judges for not enforcing the law.
In the Gazette today: Harper claims that this is the law Canadians wanted, funny that I have never ever seen a poll about this.
What will be agencies' move after the law passed IYO ?
1/ Continue as if nothing happened, and see ?
2/ Continue but with more precautions ? Which ones ?
3/ Only deal with regular costumers and forming a kind of giant private circle ?
4/ Relocalize their website and phone number from abroad ?
5/ Ask their girls to adv for themself to stay invisible ?
6/ Try to reach an agreement with LE ?
7/ Quickly leave the business not to risk to lose all what they won ?
8/ Becoming 100% Outcall agencies if they are Incall ones ?
9/ Any others ideas ?
1/ Continue as if nothing happened, and see ?
2/ Continue but with more precautions ? Which ones ?
3/ Only deal with regular costumers and forming a kind of giant private circle ?
4/ Relocalize their website and phone number from abroad ?
5/ Ask their girls to adv for themself to stay invisible ?
6/ Try to reach an agreement with LE ?
7/ Quickly leave the business not to risk to lose all what they won ?
8/ Becoming 100% Outcall agencies if they are Incall ones ?
9/ Any others ideas ?
All agencies will be vulnerable with this new law, if it passes and survives court challenges. I wouldn't guess what they would do, or should do.
I personally think there will be lots of wait and seeing as this all plays out.
I personally think there will be lots of wait and seeing as this all plays out.
The majority of agencies keep to themselves for obvious reasons, such as conflict of interest.
With that pattern, a possible reaction would be to vacuum as many clients to create a private network with possibly a 2nd Agency sharing the spoils.
Right now everyone is holding a set of cards. No one wants to show their hand.
Relocalizing their website and phone number from abroad is a good alternative among the numerous things to be done.
Leaving wouldn't seem like a popular decision, who wants to go back to a normal life after all the work that's been put to establish themselves.
Keeping records on pen & paper would minimize risks. Having files disconnected from the internet would also be a step forward.
The beauty of this business is that creativity pays off.
I don't get how relocating a webhosting of an agency's website will save it from prosecution. They are initiating the transaction from where they are located. .
What agencies will do:
Wing it for a few years until the law is repealed.
An interesting article about why Harper thinks his bill is constitutional and why it's bullshit:
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/06/10/prostitution-bill-conservatives-government-mackay_n_5479045.html
Like I mentioned earlier the stated goal of the bill is now to eradicate prostitution. The Cons claim that because of this goal, the constitutional right of prostitute to safe work does not apply as it did with the old law. However, this would only be true if selling was also illegal. Prostitutes are not breaking any laws and therefore they have a right to safe work conditions. Especially if they are thought of as victims, putting them at higher risk would definitely be unacceptable.
Wing it for a few years until the law is repealed.
An interesting article about why Harper thinks his bill is constitutional and why it's bullshit:
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/06/10/prostitution-bill-conservatives-government-mackay_n_5479045.html
Like I mentioned earlier the stated goal of the bill is now to eradicate prostitution. The Cons claim that because of this goal, the constitutional right of prostitute to safe work does not apply as it did with the old law. However, this would only be true if selling was also illegal. Prostitutes are not breaking any laws and therefore they have a right to safe work conditions. Especially if they are thought of as victims, putting them at higher risk would definitely be unacceptable.
You don't understand how these prudish guys work. If they didn't manage to institute a Tribunal of the Inquisition for the demonic Johns that see SP with their law, they will also make the selling illegal and will burn the SP they pretend to protect.
They don't have any paticular problem with prostitution and they don't care about SP security, they just have a problem with sexuality.
They don't have any paticular problem with prostitution and they don't care about SP security, they just have a problem with sexuality.
They might, but I'm pretty sure full criminalization would be also unconstitutional. The idea that prostitution is inherently harmful is just an ideology, and does not trump the facts that criminalization cause clear and present danger to the health of sex workers. Sex between consenting adults is a completely unregulated activity and there is no practical reasons to criminalize the commodification of sex. There are reasons to regulate it with civil laws to prevent nuisance and such, but I'm sure the supreme court would say it has no place in criminal law.
Also, prostitutes are widely seen as victims and criminalizing them would be political suicide. If they could have done it, I'm sure they would have. The only country in the western world where it is illegal to sell sex is the US (as far as I know), and that's from 100 years ago. Most countries suppress prostitutes indirectly (like our old laws) and these countries do not have a Bedford decision to contend with.
Also, prostitutes are widely seen as victims and criminalizing them would be political suicide. If they could have done it, I'm sure they would have. The only country in the western world where it is illegal to sell sex is the US (as far as I know), and that's from 100 years ago. Most countries suppress prostitutes indirectly (like our old laws) and these countries do not have a Bedford decision to contend with.
Salutation a tous
Félicitation a toi franc..S et mes compliment pour tes recherche et commentaire en général!
Pour une vision réfléchie concernant une situation aussi partager que difficile "la nouvelle loi contrant la prostitution" sans toutefois partager tout tes point de vue !
Il y a définitivement un grand intérêt a te lire!!!
Le libellée final de la nouvelle loi est très attendu par tous ,que fera l'opposition et quelle sera l'avis des 9 sages en toge qui on unanimement renverse la loi anti-prostitution initial
Quel saveur aura a nos bouche et notre portefeuille cette nouvelles dynamique, les futurs chapitres vont nous les faires connaitre
J'attends tes nouveaux commentaires , accompagne d'article intéressant souvent a point , ne lâche pas !
Salutation Distingue a tous
BookerL
Félicitation a toi franc..S et mes compliment pour tes recherche et commentaire en général!
Pour une vision réfléchie concernant une situation aussi partager que difficile "la nouvelle loi contrant la prostitution" sans toutefois partager tout tes point de vue !
Il y a définitivement un grand intérêt a te lire!!!
Le libellée final de la nouvelle loi est très attendu par tous ,que fera l'opposition et quelle sera l'avis des 9 sages en toge qui on unanimement renverse la loi anti-prostitution initial
Quel saveur aura a nos bouche et notre portefeuille cette nouvelles dynamique, les futurs chapitres vont nous les faires connaitre
J'attends tes nouveaux commentaires , accompagne d'article intéressant souvent a point , ne lâche pas !
Salutation Distingue a tous
BookerL
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