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Lack of inclusivity within agencies in 2022

Halloween Mike

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There was a time where i could see almost anyone beside maybe 1 or 2 girls (that would refuse categoricaly to do outcalls) in the top agencies as an outcall. Now its not the case anymore. As some said, they want to maximize profits and accomodate the providers who probably prefer staying in one place rather than be driven in town and having to deal with heat in summer and cold in winter. Also no driving time = more job time and no gaz money. Does i find it really disapointing? Yes. But what can we do?

What exactly is your disability? If you are in a wheelchair, usually the incalls are accessible to them as they have elevators etc. Now obviously i understand it would be easier to stay home.

As for "educating" well again i guess it depend on your disability, but as peoples said, lots of them are 23 years or such young lady and they do this to make money fast to fill their party life (by party i mean going out, having fun, not drugs particulary) or could be to pay their school, lots of reasons, but point be they may not aim for this as a "career".

Anyway i feel your pain and im the first guy annoyed at the lack of outcalls compare to couple years ago, but nothing we can do...
 

Handi

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Yes they want money and yes agencies are a business.

but hey, i own a business and my favourite clients are not those who pay me the most, they are the one I impact to most positively.

why sex industry should be different?

i also work for money ;)
 

Anna Bijou

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Each woman has the right to decide who she will deal with. Isn't it?
I doubt every women within an agency will want to meet disable gents. We can be sorry but we can't help it.

He's not saying providers are refusing to see him, he's saying agencies are not willing to even try to accommodate.




Obviously, agencies aren’t a microcosm of « normal » society.
It is an industry yes but with his own.rules.

Sure but there's zero reason for an agency to be discriminatory. And if we want to be seen as legitimate and serious industry, then yeah, there are some societal values such as inclusivity, which is pretty basic, that should be a priority in 2022.
 
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He's not saying providers are refusing to see him, he's saying agencies are not willing to even try to accommodate.

We seem to be going around in circles in this thread.

Handi, what type of accommodation do you need??

And I hate to even ask but, since Handi created this thread, what's your disability? Are we talking about needing wheelchair access? Or are we talking about being comfortable providing sexual services when there's a colostomy bag present? Not trying to be a jerk, but Handi, for the purposes of this discussion, you need to be specific about what type of accommodation you are seeking from the agencies and ladies. Simply saying that you need an accommodation is so vague.
 

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There was a time where i could see almost anyone beside maybe 1 or 2 girls (that would refuse categoricaly to do outcalls) in the top agencies as an outcall. Now its not the case anymore. As some said, they want to maximize profits and accomodate the providers who probably prefer staying in one place rather than be driven in town and having to deal with heat in summer and cold in winter. Also no driving time = more job time and no gaz money. Does i find it really disapointing? Yes. But what can we do?
To all that don't forget doing incall is much more secure for SP. They know the surround, they know they will not be recorded and that there is no-one hidden in an other room. That explain why many SP doing outcall will go to hotel only and not private house. We have the same security concerns when visiting an incall SP.
But I digress a bit from the main subject. There are lot of discrimation in the society against different groups and different laws tend to eliminate those. As long as prostitution will not be legalized nothing can be done to accomodate disabled people unless some SP are willing to do so.
In the Netherlands, citizens with disabilities receive money from the Government as part of the 'Hookers for the Handicapped' program, to pay for sexual services up to 12 times a year. This move has drastically reduced depression among the disabled, many of whom have never had a chance to explore their sexuality. It's obvious we are far far away from those politics.
 
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Like_It_Hot

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He's not saying providers are refusing to see him, he's saying agencies are not willing to even try to accommodate.
I have no doubt if a girl within an agency would agree to serve this clientele, the agency would act as the middle man. They can charge extra or do whatever they want. The solution is dealing with known independent who accept this duty.
 

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Lets get real, the agencies are not legal commercial establishments therefore are not bound by any labor laws or human rights laws as Like_It_Hot stated. Furthermore this is not about serving burgers or having access to a mall, this is about providing an intimate service. Not all girls will be comfortable or know how to serve a disabled client. Agencies are the worst place to go to, it is like comparing buying clothes off the rack vs made to measure clothes. You go to go made to measure, seeing an Indy is the only route. You need a more personalized contact and discuss your needs with the escort and see what she is able to do. Expect to pay a premium for this.
 
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bodick7

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Sure but there's zero reason for an agency to be discriminatory. And if we want to be seen as legitimate and serious industry, then yeah, there are some societal values such as inclusivity, which is pretty basic, that should be a priority in 2022.
Maybe if they are aware of comments on this board and let’s hope this will change. Agency bosses has to instruct bookers to do so. This won’t come from reluctant bookers who don’t care…
 
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bodick7

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In the Netherlands, citizens with disabilities receive money from the Government as part of the 'Hookers for the Handicapped' program, to pay for sexual services up to 12 times a year. This move has drastically reduced depression among the disabled, many of whom have never had a chance to explore their sexuality. It's obvious we are far far away from those politics.
Public money to provide sex services?
Not possible here. This kind of measure would create a scandal…
Even if it’s for a good cause, it wouldn’t pass.
I sincerely think Quebec is an inclusive society but we aren’t there yet. Maybe some day.
 

Handi

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We seem to be going around in circles in this thread.

Handi, what type of accommodation do you need??

And I hate to even ask but, since Handi created this thread, what's your disability? Are we talking about needing wheelchair access? Or are we talking about being comfortable providing sexual services when there's a colostomy bag present? Not trying to be a jerk, but Handi, for the purposes of this discussion, you need to be specific about what type of accommodation you are seeking from the agencies and ladies. Simply saying that you need an accommodation is so vague.
It's not about me here, please read carefully my first post.