New members, lurkers, fake engagement, reviews.

[Valentina]

My question is how do you know SP's are coercing clients to vote for them and how do you know recent reviews are coerced? I don't see why it's an issue to encourage clients to write reviews and to vote on their website or social media, this isn't coercion. Coercion would be if a SP threatened a client just to get a good review or a vote. I don't know about ''fairness''.. To me it seems fairly normal for a SP to ask their regulars to vote for them for the contest, although

Because it reeks of favouritism.

And no one else is advertising themselves on their websites for votes.

The whole point of a contest is to have it be the most authentic.

You should’ve seen the amounts of new reviews people tried to sneak in.

I personally didn't do that because I just don't have the energy for it.

Me neither, but I’m still calling it out for others it’s unfair. And also. Many SPs weren’t even on the list at first.

Another way votes and reviews could be manipulated is if a SP offers services or freebies to a client in exchange for reviews.. which might happen, but honestly, from my perspective, it seems like it's not worth it. I'd much rather get a positive review from someone who genuinely likes me as a person and liked the service.

I’m not gonna go there for this because LOL.
We’ve hinted enough at freebies for reviews - and this still happens to this day. As someone said in prior responses. And the funny meme urquell did. SPs have done it.

I also tell my clients to switch from LL to other platforms even tho I have mixed feelings about judging how other SP's practice their advertising, because a lot of SP's can't afford having several ads on multiple platforms and LL is the easiest place to advertise and you do get more inquiries from it. (low quality ones, but if someone is just beginning and needs to build their clientele I can see why she would use LL a lot, particularly if her rates are on the low side)

Yes. All this. Agreed.

 

[Fradi]

Why is it a problem for someone to write a good review if they actually had a good time.
I doubt any SP would ask someone to write a review about them if they scammed the guy or knowingly gave poor service and it is highly unlikely they would get a positive review.
There are really only 4 reasons to write a review.
You really had a great time with that SP and you want to share that experience and want to contribute to Merb and the other members.
You had a horrible time and you want to warn others.
You don’t really give a shit about anything else other than bragging about how great you are and want to prove to yourself that you could get any woman without having to pay for it.
You are a shill or pimp and you are getting something in return for writing a positive review.

We have all seen multiple examples of these and should be able to make our own decisions on their validity,

 

[Valentina]

So are you saying that the below thread's vote results are bullfucking shit and the result of coerced voting? Because that's what I am hearing here.

https://merb.cc/xenforo/threads/montreal-escorts-official-best-of-year-2024-indy-sp-votes-no-sp-vote-please.239467/

I call bullshit-ish.
Not saying there’s no authenticity at all - obviously members do vote on their own, of course!

Some members tried to sneak in new reviews to cast their votes. They have now been deleted lmao.

+ no other SP is advertising it anywhere to vote for them. So, IMO. It’s not an authentic poll. Why does one girl get a pass to advertise for a contest elsewhere, when voting is solely on here?

@Lunaseraphim I don’t mind it if all SPs were told to advertise for it. That’s cool! But no SP is. The whole point of it being on MERB is that it’s selective polling. Not outsourcing for others to come INAUTHENTICALLY vote. You see? hahah.

- Some SPs didn’t get the memo about the contest
- Some members didn’t get the memo about the contest
- Members who aren’t necessarily from MTL but use MERB don’t check MERB and don’t know about the contest
= Unfair advantage

Once again, I asked to self exclude myself because I call BULLSHIET this year.

If ever I’m proved wrong tho I will gladly apologize.

I want every fkn girl to get the bag and to excel, be safe and win. However, I also want every fkn girl to play fair. Which also falls on the clients to stop being persuaded.
Aka freebies?
Aka favouritism

 

[DetectiveDavidMills]

Awww, this thread is going into a maze with no ends....

I want to give my 2 cents but i don't know where to begin

 

[Workingman]

I call bullshit-ish.

It's a list of like 150 Sps.....who cares at that point. How could it even be objective, if it had any meaning to begin with. It's useless information.

 

[Workingman]

''the truth'' to me isn't about how attractive a provider is and how amazing her service is

Agreed

 

[Valentina]

It's a list of like 150 Sps.....who cares at that point. How could it even be objective, if it had any meaning to begin with. It's useless information.

Trivial to civilians.
But unfair to other SPs. Again. I don’t care for it. But it’s still unfair to other SPs.

It’s about fairness lmao. And this relates to favouritism / fake engagement.

Some SPs really work hard to earn that title and don’t go beg on the corner of the street to get it.

You asked I answered.

It’s lunchtime soon can we all go eat? The sandwiches I made us are ready

 

[Valentina]

Awww, this thread is going into a maze with no ends....

I want to give my 2 cents but i don't know where to begin

Don’t hahah. Or please do. But at the end of the day we are all still gonna sleep well.
It is exactly this ➡️ A conversation piece.
Please. Let us know what is in your box.

 

[DetectiveDavidMills]

One thing is for sure...

There are too many lurkers, they need to contribute... good or bad experience

And also, there are members who only ask questions and never report their experiences, good or bad

 

[DetectiveDavidMills]

Please. Let us know what is in your box.

In the meantime:

 

[Valentina]

Most members who aren't constantly on the forum don't know about the contest or probably don't have time to pay attention to it. I didn't get the memo about the contest either and I know there are reasons why some ppl will get more votes that aren't necessarily objective .. popularity isn't necessarily tied to quality but I'm glad to see that some colleagues I respect got votes. Personally like I said I think this contest is a bit silly and I didn't agree to be part of it.

Oui !!! Agreed.
However, what’s fair is fair and I don’t think it’s authentic lol.

 

[Valentina]

I can 100% understand why someone would want to remain a lurker here lol. And I disagree that people need to contribute. A lot of people don't want to and a lot of people don't have time for it.

But I'm with you on thinking it's inappropriate of lurkers to ask certain questions to people who left reviews because it's opening a door to gossip and disrespectful behavior

Same. You bet your ass I’m reading “product reviews” on Amazon before buying.

I’d do the same for escorts.

I’d gladly leave the community feedback. But never in a disparaging way.

Which happened to me as I mentioned LMAO. You’d think I’d want a DRN policy after the lovely death threats and messages I got from my review board 2 years ago that I didn’t know about. I’m not even kidding lol. (I can tell you in DM what I was texted)

And here I am welcoming people on MERB lmao. Whereas MANY SPs really don’t like it here because of negative experiences such as^^^ riddle me this one hahaha.

 

[Valentina]

I'm curious to know what causes favoritism to happen

I’ll let @Toto beefcake answer this one. Hahaha

 

[Toto beefcake]

One thing is for sure...

There are too many lurkers, they need to contribute... good or bad experience

And also, there are members who only ask questions and never report their experiences, good or bad

Ok lets get something straight about the luuuuurkers. . Lets answer this great phenomenon once and for all. Lurkers are people who see a favorite or one of their faves and want to see if shes lying or not about your being the “fave” You know the famous sps lines “ your the only one i do this with” “ your so good looking” “you have such big dick” “ your so handsome “ theres so many more but the jist is there.

Then these people get heartbroken by an sp a girl they pay to spend time with lol and the rest is history.

Which follows by constant complaining about relationships Women being hard to find and dating apps suck and yadda yadda. Whose gonna take you serious if an sp broke your heart. I cant anymore lol.

This site is gonna make me get my psychology degree.

 

[Toto beefcake]

I’ll let @Toto beefcake answer this one. Hahaha

What can I say that hasnt already been said or what i havent been saying for the past months lol. Dont let me go full tilt, im tapped out

 

[Valentina]

Dont let me go full tilt, im tapped out

Sorry.
I’ll give you a discount for the inconvenience.

(For the ones who don’t know me. That’s satire)

 

[Toto beefcake]

I don't even know where to begin.. Have you ever considered that some people's lives don't revolve around SP's and talking about them online? How is the person a lurker if they talk on the forum about having their heart broken by a SP? lol that makes no sense, a lurker means the person doesn't post or barely posts. Some clients just look at ads and reviews because they don't want to put in the energy to participate in conversations on this forum or write reviews, often because they don't have the same values as a lot of people here. These clients have better things to do than post on forums. I myself feel like I've wasted way too much time posting on this thread.

The truth is that the vast majority of clients of SP's aren't hobbyists who spend their time trying to find the next person they can get the best deal from or ''the new girl to try''. A lot of clients just hire a SP when they are traveling or on a business trip, or once in a while when they are going through a difficult phase, when they are single and aren't ready to enter the dating scene again etc. Most clients hire SP's because they are lonely or want to try something new, and it doesn't become a habit necessarily or if it does, it isn't something they do frequently. Not all clients see like 3 SP's a week and then go home to write about them on forums

Ok luna lol …

 

[Valentina]

I don't even know where to begin.. Have you ever considered that some people's lives don't revolve around SP's and talking about them online? How is the person a lurker if they talk on the forum about having their heart broken by a SP? lol that makes no sense, a lurker means the person doesn't post or barely posts. Some clients just look at ads and reviews because they don't want to put in the energy to participate in conversations on this forum or write reviews, often because they don't have the same values as a lot of people here. These clients have better things to do than post on forums. I myself feel like I've wasted way too much time posting on this thread.

The truth is that the vast majority of clients of SP's aren't hobbyists who spend their time trying to find the next person they can get the best deal from or ''the new girl to try''. A lot of clients just hire a SP when they are traveling or on a business trip, or once in a while when they are going through a difficult phase, when they are single and aren't ready to enter the dating scene again etc. Most clients hire SP's because they are lonely or want to try something new, and it doesn't become a habit necessarily or if it does, it isn't something they do frequently. Not all clients see like 3 SP's a week and then go home to write about them on forums

Now, obviously not all lurkers.
But I needed to get Toto in because he says real shit and I’ve been following his rants. At this point, this thread is a waste of time & I wanna end this on a light note. I said what was needed to be said about my OP; favouritism, fake engagement, lurkers, new anccounts/ members. Everyone brought in great points. As you know, nowadays, God forbid you call bullshit on stuff or talk about real stuff be it civ or SP perspective. There’s always something. I wish everyone well.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

I deleted my last comment because I'm starting to feel like I'm missing some context.. Have a nice day

 

[Cap'tain Fantastic]

Some members tried to sneak in new reviews to cast their votes.

People just can’t read, especialy rules stuff. I dont believe they ALL tried to sneak in uneligible reviews intentionaly.

However, I also want every fkn girl to play fair. Which also falls on the clients to stop being persuaded.

I dont buy your claim, like not even a second. The contest is biased, I’ve mentioned it and got a warning. But not in the way you are puting it, no way. So far, as I look at the standings in the indy votes, the girls that are in the top 3 are definately among the best if not the best SWs in MTL as we speak, regardless of how much they charge.

No, I dont get freebies from anybody, I never been asked to write a review neither. The most I got was some incredible expériences.