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One thing I find interesting is XO's site is still active. That does not make sense to me. Would LE not shut down the website?

LE does not give a crap about that. They won't mingle with the client lists. Especially since many of their own names will be in them haha
 

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Alright lets break this down…

For starters, how many 18-25 year old men have the money to access this service? Given today’s rates, i don’t see many active particpants, so lets say this was true, the government/police crack down to take away maybe 0.5% of that age group from accessing sex work? It’s bonkers to me.
 
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LE does not give a crap about that. They won't mingle with the client lists. Especially since many of their own names will be in them haha
They are in a position to pick and choose a subset they believe is easier to criminate which may or may not include the most frequent "loyal" visitors.

As for phone number owners, while cellular companies may not keep the old text and call logs, they do keep the owner information as far as back to eternity these days.
 

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When I was 18-25 I absolutely couldn't afford it, plus I was still involved in traditional dating. The best job I had ages 18-25 between college and starting law school was making $8 an hour managing a pizzeria back in the 1980s. I did make cash tips delivering the pies, on a good night I made maybe $60-$75 in tips on top of the $8/hour. Even then I really couldn't do anything with that money, plus I was still actively dating. It wasn't on my radar to even think about escorts, even though I was very horny.
 

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LE does not give a crap about that. They won't mingle with the client lists. Especially since many of their own names will be in them haha
Never say never. They can if they wanted to. Time to consider using a burner phone for all future bookings. Agencies should be deleting all texts and phone numbers from their phones. Canada is becoming more and more like the US. Better safe then sorry.
 

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Never say never. They can if they wanted to. Time to consider using a burner phone for all future bookings. Agencies should be deleting all texts and phone numbers from their phones. Canada is becoming more and more like the US. Better safe then sorry.
I swear they aren't deleting the texts. I don't do this activity often but agencies' responses tell me they have my old texts from months prior. I can bet this can be easily tested.
 

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I swear they aren't deleting the texts. I don't do this activity often but agencies' responses tell me they have my old texts from months prior. I can bet this can be easily tested.
I know and that is a bad practise. They are not doing clients any favors. I hardly use escorts either way and I will just skip it for a long time till they get their act together and delete the texts and numbers.
 
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Alright lets break this down…

For starters, how many 18-25 year old men have the money to access this service? Given today’s rates, i don’t see many active particpants, so lets say this was true, the government/police crack down to take away maybe 0.5% of that age group from accessing sex work? It’s bonkers to me.

Especially since you mentioned “young, horny, underemployed, underpaid and undersexed young men”. These men arent affording sex work services
They would have a better chance with shutting down TikTok and Instagram.
 
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One thing I find interesting is XO's site is still active. That does not make sense to me. Would LE not shut down the website?
Why would you expect the site to be down? The agency is likely saying they’re engaged in no wrong doing, and Xo attorneys aren’t suggesting to take it down.

LE probably doesn’t have authority to take it down, and if it’s hosted overseas….good luck.
 
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They are in a position to pick and choose a subset they believe is easier to criminate which may or may not include the most frequent "loyal" visitors.

As for phone number owners, while cellular companies may not keep the old text and call logs, they do keep the owner information as far as back to eternity these days.
Why would prosecutors go after clients? How would they accurately secure their contact information?

Wireless companies don’t give up data very easily. Prosecutors would need a court order, and even then…. AT&T would likely not relinquish information because Tiffany and Steve met up in a hotel room. You’d need to give them a better reason. For God’s sake, there is controversy about how much data wireless companies were willing to share regarding suspected terrorists.

Maybe because I’ve seen these stories countless times in the US that I don’t share in the paranoia. From a client’s perspective, this is a nothing burger. If you went down to the police station and said, “I’m turning myself in for being an XO client,” they’d probably kick your ass out the door thinking you’re fucking with them. They don’t care.
 

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Why would prosecutors go after clients? How would they accurately secure their contact information?

Wireless companies don’t give up data very easily. Prosecutors would need a court order, and even then…. AT&T would likely not relinquish information because Tiffany and Steve met up in a hotel room. You’d need to give them a better reason. For God’s sake, there is controversy about how much data wireless companies were willing to share regarding suspected terrorists.
> How would they accurately secure their contact information? If they have the court order that is good enough for the cellular companies give up all information they have available on listed numbers. The case hasn't been completed yet, I don't think it has even gone to trial yet so who's to say they won't try to obtain a court order in the future?
 

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Why would you expect the site to be down? The agency is likely saying they’re engaged in no wrong doing, and Xo attorneys aren’t suggesting to take it down.

LE probably doesn’t have authority to take it down, and if it’s hosted overseas….good luck.
It makes sense to take it down no? They are being charged with pimping. Still to be proven in court. I suspect they just do not got the authority to do it, the website may even have a password. XO uses a .com domain which is hosted in the US.
 

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> How would they accurately secure their contact information? If they have the court order that is good enough for the cellular companies give up all information they have available on listed numbers. The case hasn't been completed yet, I don't think it has even gone to trial yet so who's to say they won't try to obtain a court order in the future?
A court order for two people meeting up in a hotel room? Maybe in Tehran they’d get a court order….
 

RobertNYC

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It makes sense to take it down no? They are being charged with pimping. Still to be proven in court. I suspect they just do not got the authority to do it, the website may even have a password. XO uses a .com domain which is hosted in the US.
XO could take the site down if they wanted, but if I believed I was innocent I wouldn’t. This could also be a fuck you to the prosecutors.

Like I said, this is yesterday’s news next week at this time.
 
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I know and that is a bad practise. They are not doing clients any favors. I hardly use escorts either way and I will just skip it for a long time till they get their act together and delete the texts and numbers.
And how are they going to prove you they deleted the texts and messages so that you'll be convinced?
 

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And how are they going to prove you they deleted the texts and messages so that you'll be convinced?
Agencies don't delete texts and your number if you contacted them in the past. There is no way to convince but there are enough clues that they infact do not delete.
 
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