Opinions on Agence SPs giving Phone Numbers.

[LeDodo]

Also "stolen money" lmao how, if the client is booking through her and she's also the one fucking him?

Remove every escort from the agency website and see how much money the agency makes on their own. Then remove agencies and see how much the escorts makes on her own.

It's almost like some people have it backwards when it comes to who steals from who

Yeah ... People hate the players but not the game.

 

[Gazoo64]

not to scared anyone, but when i was younger i was the dude knocking at the door when those things was caught red-handed.... Believe me when i say this, if an SP wanna build her circle it's totally fine, but when $$$ is stolen from an agency, it's another story

Which money is stolen? An arrangement between an escort and a client outside of the agency hours are not anyone else’s business!

 

[CaptRenault]

Remove every escort from the agency website and see how much money the agency makes on their own. Then remove agencies and see how much the escorts makes on her own.

Julia never misses a chance to bash agencies.

All escorts are completely free to work independently, though many choose not to. Every girl makes her own decision on what business model to use. There are obvious advantages and disadvantages to both the agency and indy business models of escorting. Only Julia seems to not understand such basic facts about the escort industry.

 

[Artvandelay_importer]

Do you not see how threatening that post sounds? The fuck, my good sir?

Unpopular opinion but : if we're going to bring up ethics, perhaps the lack of ethics lies in threatening women because they choose to work independently on their own time and to keep their own money. Perhaps this entire thread lacks ethics, because HOW is it an issue if a lady wants to see you outside of the agency? You should feel honored she likes you enough to share her number, and happy she'll get to keep the money.

Some people sound like they'd pay the agency owner to suck his dick if they could.

Agree, I am honored she likes me enough to share her number. Was just curious to understand how things work. I stirred the hornet’s nest here, I think.

 

[zenspace]

I have the WeChat and/or Instagram of several Korean and Japanese traveling girls that visited Montreal. With a few of them I spent (unpaid, mostly social) time privately after they wrapped up their time with the agency or, if they were coming back to Montreal, before they started working. I don't see anything wrong with it.

I sometimes see girls at Euphoria or Forever, but I wouldn't ask for their details. I might be ok with exchanging if they asked, not sure, depends I guess, hasn't happened. But the risk of them becoming annoying in some way or another is much higher since they're local. I prefer to keep a professional distance and have contact with local girls only through an agency.

 

[Rebaynia]

Thats another way of saying harder control by the criminalized world.

Agencies are suppose to work for the SP and not the other way around. The only "stolen money" that can apply here is if the agency booked the call and she don't pay the agency cut.

If she booked a call herself on the side its totally her right and there is nothing stolen. What you describe here is litterally sexual exploitation. The agency do not "own" the SP.

While i believe you totally on what you have written i don't think its a good idea to post it publicly especially in 2026 when we have a lot more awareness to the industry.

Don't get me wrong i respect agencies and im not gonna go out of my way to bypass them, but if an SP offer me her phone number and tell me she prefer to book me directly, i am gonna respect her wish as well.

When I worked with an agency when I was 18. Right when you start they tell you not to give your number because yes, the agency does see it as stealing their clients.

It is a predatory system.

But to them it is their clients, and if caught, you can end up with some pretty nasty clients after.

 

[Halloween Mike]

When I worked with an agency when I was 18. Right when you start they tell you not to give your number because yes, the agency does see it as stealing their clients.

It is a predatory system.

But to them it is their clients, and if caught, you can end up with some pretty nasty clients after.

I think since then they really "slacked" on this. With the laws that have tighten up, the digital world who has expended a lot etc. While it may have been true that clients were more "loyal" to agencies 10-15 years ago, i think these days they will book the SPs where they are. We seen so much switches between agencies and so on, especially among the big ones, i think there is a lot more freedom for the SPs (and rightfully so) in going where they want.

 

[CLOUD 500]

When I worked with an agency when I was 18. Right when you start they tell you not to give your number because yes, the agency does see it as stealing their clients.

It is a predatory system.

But to them it is their clients, and if caught, you can end up with some pretty nasty clients after.

That is normal. Think of it as an agency funneling clients, providing the room and supplies. It is like working for a security company and they send you to contracts, whatever their client pays the company gets a cut of it. It is the middle man. It is there for profit, it is not a charity. If the girl is not happy she can leave and work for herself.

Where I live they sent all the tenants notices saying we cannot ask the workers to do work for us on the side, all has to pass by the administration. Rightfully so because they loose their cut.

 

[Nachoy]

I think SP pay overhead for the incall room and the effort to advertise and screen the client and scheduling
Protection is over rated.
From what I hear agency owner don’t really care about their workers. It’s all about the profit they generate
Once SP see that client and agreeable to see after her day shift or off days why does she need to pay agency ?

 

[Julia Sky]

I think since then they really "slacked" on this. With the laws that have tighten up, the digital world who has expended a lot etc. While it may have been true that clients were more "loyal" to agencies 10-15 years ago, i think these days they will book the SPs where they are. We seen so much switches between agencies and so on, especially among the big ones, i think there is a lot more freedom for the SPs (and rightfully so) in going where they want.

Unfortunately I think you're wrong. I've seen many people who are extremely loyal to agency owners and would gladly get fucked in the ass by two of them at once if they had the opportunity. Including some people in this very thread.

Those are the people who think that because *they* have an agency owner fetish everyone else does– they fail to realize that the majority of clients book escorts because they want to meet them, not just because they get off on paying the agency owner. They don't quite realize that to most clients the main reason to book is the escort herself.

 

[Wearethenight]

Not all sps are enticed to give their numbers, many sps I worked with with in both incall and outcall will outright refuse handling out numbers because they wish to maintain a difference between working as a sp and their personal life, not at just the behest of their family life. Some sps have family and friends who do not know of their work and don't want some random John's number to flash on their phone with their working name at a family dinner/ friend hangout asking if they are available, it's not always because the agency specifies not to hand out numbers. From my experience it's never good to ask unless she offers, because some have a strict separation from their personal life and their sp life and don't want to receive these random inquiries which should be respected.

 

[Julia Sky]

Where I live they sent all the tenants notices saying we cannot ask the workers to do work for us on the side, all has to pass by the administration. Rightfully so because they loose their cut.

That's not even a good comparison. They do this for legal, liability, code compliance and insurance reasons... Lol

 

[Flabert]

Which money is stolen? An arrangement between an escort and a client outside of the agency hours are not anyone else’s business!

Am not saying this is the biggest case of theft but it is an issue in construction also. If one of my client requests a plumber as part of a project and the plumber gives his number and circumvents me (and all my advertising expenses) then I will be annoyed and likely put him at the bottom of my list. I would never accuse either of theft or worst threaten them!

Now if the customer locates the plumber’s ad independently and contacts him directly for another project then that it is ok. It is the poaching of customers while on the job that is mildly unethical - but people do it all the time!

 

[skarsga]

If a lady offers you her contact info, consider it a compliment. Do not abuse it and proceed discreetly.
Broadcasting it, particularly to her agency, only invites trouble for her and you

IMHO, non compete clauses are bullshit, especially when talking about an escort and what they choose to do outside of agency time

 

[twenty4seven]

It's probably the main reason why I've only really seen indies, this idea of ownership. The agency doesn't own the girls or the clients but they act as gatekeeper to both. Do they provide logistics and advertising which needs to be compensated? Sure, but that's the end of it. The client isn't going to the agency bc they love the people that built the website or secured the incall spaces, they're going there for the actual providers they are supposed to be supporting and since that relationship can be so opaque and fraught with abuse I don't want to deal with them.

I'm an independent contractor so I like supporting independent contractors. I book, talk to, meet, get hard for, fuck and thank the only other person I need to in this equation. I'd be actively trying to persuade agency girls to go indy if I saw them on the regular, probably lmao.