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Guys,

The pitching ERA is another stat. yes, Boston is sucking hind tit but look at Detroit. What happened to the once mighty starting rotation? The perennial crappy bull-pen is no surprise.

Buchholz and Rodriguez are doing just fine. They've been dominating lately despite some blooper innings. The others, well, there's the problem. Porcello is a terd. He is fast becoming one of the worst pitching contracts in Boston history, especially recent history, and that's going some considering Matsuzaka who though very exasperating was never the disaster Porcello is turning out to be and at greater dollar cost. Porcello should be throwing rigged balls that explode into a glaringly bright fireworks display when they reach 100 ft in height, which he easily accomplishes, just to end the sham that he's an MLB pitcher instead of a 4th of July artist.

As for Detroit, I've been very surprised at their mediocre standings. I haven't paid attention to why but thanks for the explanation. Don't forget that Detroit offense has been badly underachieving right along with the pitching. And Cleveland, they've got to be the American Toronto. Their problems seem eerily similar to early Red Sox issues.

1. The Indians have played 69 games this season. Twenty-six times, they have scored TWO or fewer runs. That's right, TWO or fewer in 37 percent of the games. It's amazing their record in those games isn't worse than 6-20.

2. In games where they score THREE runs, they are 1-7.

3. The Indians lead the league in drawing walks and rank No. 13 in striking out. That should lead to more than being No. 12 in runs scored.

4. But with runners in scoring position, they are batting .224 (No. 14 in the A.L.) Bases loaded, it's .148 (14th). They do not hit when it matters.

The poor people of Cleveland have been suffering almost as long as Prometheus chained a rock and as pitifully as southern Ontario hockey fans chained to epic serial losers. The only difference is the tragic betrayal of a football team that won it all just after leaving the city.

Every team has it's issues. The Yankees problems are they haven't been able to put together a team since 2000 with enough magic to compete with the 3 World Series Championships in Boston and San Francisco...but Boston's piss them OFF no matter how badly they've done this year or any other year. The irony is both Boston and New York has been trying to do it the wrong way. You don't go out and buy a mass of players from all kinds of places and expect them to bond into champions. You build from the ground up and fill in precisely fitting pieces where needed.

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I think the Indians pitchers are first in striking out batter too.

I think Boston tried to build a team from the ground up with prospects when they let all those free agents go and took the compensation picks. The problem is until a prospect pans out they are just that. A prosepct. How long was KC waiting on the Moose and Hosmer? They just started coming around. I thought the Moose was going to be a bust until the post season of last year.

The Yankees? The Tigers commentators were saying that they have had so much succes that they just have not gotten the pick of the litter for draft picks. That has hurt their farm system.

Tigers Offense is awful despite JD Martinez having a great year. He has like 12 home runs in the past 19 games or something? He did have a 0-28 streak in there. Miggie has played well and so has Cespedes and we have a new soon to be star at Catcher in McCann. Iggy BA has remained above .320 all year.

The Problem?
Kinsler is hitting .198 in his last 37 games and Castallanos (another prospect) is hitting the same OPS as long time Tiger utility infielder Ramone Santiago but with out the glove. Romine should start. Victor Martinez - a pure hitter had been hobbled and is finally healthy but had not played like Victor Martinez.

Tiger starters have been awful as of late. Will JV ever pitch like JV? Sanchez had given up more HRs in April than all of last year and Scherzer is gone. Green looked like a world beater but he lost it and was sent to AAA to find "it." JV is back and Rondon has seemed to replace Joba Chamberlain as the set-up guy. Joba's fastball is back (97MPH) but he wants to throw the curve. Too many trick pitches and you hang one. He has been awful. Al Al has just started pitching better. Let's see next half a season.
 

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Guys,

Nice series by the Red Sox who faced a former first place team that has been able to produce a lot of runs and taking 3 out of 4. The Jays were lucky they got a pass for one game thanks to the gift that is bombs-away Porcello.

I think Boston tried to build a team from the ground up with prospects when they let all those free agents go and took the compensation picks. The problem is until a prospect pans out they are just that. A prosepct. How long was KC waiting on the Moose and Hosmer? They just started coming around. I thought the Moose was going to be a bust until the post season of last year.

Boston has a deep farm system, one of those with the most potential according to MLB evaluations. So it was very disappointing to see the team run out and try to fix things with outrageous one-year bulk spending, which the Yankees had already amply proven was not the way to go. A lot of young players with the team are improving steadily. De Aza, who I never heard of until very recently has been fairly hot with a slugging percentage over .600 at the moment. Bogaerts and Holt are borderline All-Stars, and Betts is someone who is making a very positive difference.I for one was very willing to be patient and wait a few years to build a tough contender. Like the Yankees the team was too worried about keeping seats filled and selling team items. I could take poor to mediocre seasons for a while, but it gets much harder to take when they go out and spend for a quick fix that falls flat. Sandoval has failed to produce as promised and his fielding is worse than expected. Ramirez is suitable as a power DH, nothing more. He fields poorly to badly and wherever he is placed on the field it's usually embarrassing.

It's just too bad every starter got off so badly at the beginning. If they had pitched in the first 6 to 7 weeks like they are now we would be right in line to be around 1st place now.

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My, my, my, the Yanks looked like they were down and out trailing the Rays 5-3 in the bottom of the 12th. But having come back on a Mark Teixeira 3 run blast to tie 3-3 in the bottom of the 8th after going scoreless against Chris Archer, the Yanks banked on another walk off HR by Brian McCann to win an exciting game, 7-5.

Meanwhile, the first place AL West Houston Astros won in extra innings against the AL East LAST PLACE Boston Red Sox, 12-8. That Red Sox ERA just keeps on going up and up and up.

First place Yanks are 1 game up over the Orioles, 2 games over the next place Blue Jays and Rays, and 7 games up over the LAST PLACE Boston Red Sox. Giving just the facts. :nod:
 

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Wishful thinking from some Red Sox Fans about their Farm System

Guys,

Boston has a deep farm system, one of those with the most potential according to MLB evaluations.
Cheers,

Merlot

The AAA International League standings almost match the standings that the majors in respect to the Yanks and Red Sox. How can the Red Sox have a better Farm system when their top team in the farm system is not doing so well? :confused:

International League North
Club W L PCT▼ GB ELIM # Home Away L 10 Streak
Scranton/Wilkes-Barre RailRiders (NYY) 45 37 .549 - - 19-24 26-13 4-6 W2
Rochester Red Wings (MIN) 44 37 .543 0.5 63 26-16 18-21 7-3 W1
Buffalo Bisons (TOR) 39 42 .481 5.5 58 21-22 18-20 5-5 W2
Pawtucket Red Sox (BOS) 38 45 .458 7.5 55 22-21 16-24 3-7 L5
Lehigh Valley IronPigs (PHI) 34 49 .410 11.5 51 20-26 14-23 6-4 L1
Syracuse Chiefs (WSH) 28 54 .341 17.0 46 15-24 13-30 2-8 L2
International League South
Club W L PCT▼ GB ELIM # Home Away L 10 Streak
Norfolk Tides (BAL) 45 34 .570 - - 23-14 22-20 8-2 L1
Charlotte Knights (CWS) 45 37 .549 1.5 63 27-14 18-23 4-6 W1
Durham Bulls (TB) 43 38 .531 3.0 62 19-17 24-21 4-6 W2
Gwinnett Braves (ATL) 42 39 .519 4.0 61 22-19 20-20 6-4 L1
International League West
Club W L PCT▼ GB ELIM # Home Away L 10 Streak
Indianapolis Indians (PIT) 49 33 .598 - - 27-16 22-17 7-3 L1
Columbus Clippers (CLE) 43 39 .524 6.0 57 23-15 20-24 4-6 L1
Louisville Bats (CIN) 40 42 .488 9.0 54 20-22 20-20 5-5 W1
Toledo Mud Hens (DET) 36 45 .444 12.5 51 18-19 18-26 5-5 W1

http://www.milb.com/standings/index.jsp?sid=l117
 

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Guys,

Ranking team Farm Systems:

http://www.baseballamerica.com/majors/2015-organization-talent-rankings/

2. Boston Red Sox

2014 Rank: 2. 2013 Rank: 6.


TOP 10 PROSPECTS
1. Yoan Moncada, 2b 6. Brian Johnson, lhp (82)
2. Blake Swihart, c (17) 7. Rafael Devers, 3b (99)
3. Henry Owens, lhp (44) 8. Manuel Margot, of (72)
4. Rusney Castillo, of (21) 9. Matt Barnes, rhp
5. Eduardo Rodriguez, lhp (59) 10. Deven Marrero, ss

How They Got Here: An aggressive spender under the old draft rules, Boston has attacked the Cuban market aggressively, spending more than $130 million on Yoan Moncada and Rusney Castillo in bonuses, guaranteed major league contracts and international bonus pool penalties. Their top lefthanded starters all had success in Double-A or higher in 2014.

High-Ceiling Sleeper: Hard-throwing RHP Michael Kopech has one of the fastest and liveliest arms of any 2014 draft pick. He has a somewhat unconventional delivery for a starter, but the Red Sox will let him take his time to develop.

2015 Rookies: Castillo will challenge 2014 rookies Mookie Betts and Jackie Bradley for a spot in Boston’s crowded outfield. Matt Barnes could ease into a relief role. Henry Owens, Brian Johnson and Eduardo Rodriguez all could pitch their way to Boston in 2015.


18. New York Yankees

2014 Rank: 13. 2013 Rank: 11.


TOP 10 PROSPECTS
1. Luis Severino, rhp (35) 6. Ian Clarkin, lhp
2. Aaron Judge, of (53) 7. Rob Refsnyder, 2b/of
3. Jorge Mateo, ss 8. Jacob Lindgren, lhp
4. Greg Bird, 1b 9. Luis Torrens, c
5. Gary Sanchez, c 10. Domingo German, rhp

How They Got Here: The Yankees got breakout seasons from Luis Severino and Aaron Judge, who are opposites physically. However, the Yankees have failed to develop in-house young replacements for an aging roster that has missed the playoffs in back-to-back seasons. New York’s unprecedented July 2 international spending ($17.3 million) brought in impressive depth, obviously with risk that is ameliorated by the depth.

High-Ceiling Sleeper: The system is full of them, but a spring candidate who was emerging was 21-year-old Domingo Acevedo, a big-bodied Dominican signee who is starting to coordinate the long levers in his 6-foot-7, (listed) 190-pound frame. His fastball was sitting in the 94-96 mph range during the spring and reaching higher, and it was still just March. He’s headed for his full-season debut.

2015 Rookies: A concussion this spring interrupted 2B Jose Pirela’s chase for a utility role or to compete with Rob Refsnyder for the second-base job. LHP Chasen Shreve and RHP Bryan Mitchell competed for staff roles in spring training, with Mitchell headed back to the minors to start the year in a rotation role.


RED SOX RISING, Yankees falling.

Interesting how the Red Sox have been bringing up lots of players to "the Show" who are no longer included in these rankings yet their farm system rank has gone up. That's a DEEP farm system.

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Guys,


RED SOX RISING, Yankees falling.

Interesting how the Red Sox have been bringing up lots of players to "the Show" who are no longer included in these rankings yet their farm system rank has gone up. That's a DEEP farm system.

Cheers,

Merlot

No, RED SOX FALLING, FAILING, etc., etc. Yankees in First place both AAA and Big Leagues.

And the reason why the Red Sox have been bringing these guys up is the guys who started 2015 stunk.

I don't think you can really put much weight into Baseball America or any of these websites. The writers are dumb sports writers or self proclaimed baseball experts (we know those types :nod:) who think they know baseball but they don't.

The guys who made it up to the big leagues in 2015 for the Yankees are not even listed in the their top 10 prospects: Ramon Flores (0 HR, 0 RBI, .241 BA, 29 AB, .517 OPS), Mason Williams (1 HR, 3 RBI, .286 BA, .890 OPS, 21 AB), Slade Heathcott (1 HR, 3 RBI, .353 BA, .941 OPS, 17 AB)

Blake Swihart (1 HR, 11 RBI, .241 BA, .602 OPS, 138 AB) E. Rodriguez (4-2, 3.92 ERA, 1.11 WHIP) and Matt Barnes (2-2, 5.18 ERA, 1.82 WHIP) have seen time for the Red Sox.

But if you go back to the wins in AAA, the Yankees still have a better record and better players than the Red Sox. I say that article doesn't mean crap.
 

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Guys,

Just the day after the Red Sox made every mistake they could dream of to lose here came Clay Buchholz completely shutting down the same team that had their way with the Red Sox the day before. Buchholz has been outstanding since the start of June giving up only 11 runs in 49.2 innings for about a 2.01 ERA. In that time he's been pitching like the #1 the team has been hoping for and like an All-Star. His ERA for the last four starts has been astonishing.

Clay Buchholz dealing like an ace for Red Sox

http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/red-sox/post/_/id/45180/clay-buchholz-dealing-like-an-ace-for-red-sox

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BOSTON -- After a lengthy, wacky and often ugly loss Friday night, the Red Sox produced a July 4th win that was a marvel of efficiency. For that, the credit goes largely to Clay Buchholz, whose roller-coaster of a career is currently climbing another impressive peak.

“I’ve had almost every pitch working for a good stretch now,” he said after recording his ninth career complete game in Saturday’s 6-1 win over Houston. “I feel as good as I’ve felt [in my career].”

The 30-year-old right-hander lost his shutout bid with two outs in the ninth inning, but that did nothing to detract from a clutch effort for a team that needed him. Manager John Farrell said as much even before Buchholz took the mound, stressing the need for some length after several abbreviated starts taxed the bullpen.

The true leader of an up-and-down rotation, Buchholz was well aware of his skipper’s desire.

“First thing in my mind coming out today was to get as deep into the game as I could,” said Buchholz, who has won four straight starts while posting an ERA of 0.87 and eating up 31 of 36 possible innings. “Complete games don’t always happen. You have to have a lot of things go right for a complete game to happen, but I could throw just about any pitch I wanted to today. Doesn’t happen like that very often. I was able to locate curveballs and throw changeups in the dirt whenever I needed swings and misses.”


BRAVO!!! :cheer2:

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Guys,

Don't look now but the Red Sox have been steadily moving up on the rest of the teams, though in an admittedly weak division. The Red Sox have gone 8-3 and gained 5 games in the standings while the rest of the teams have been floundering. Starting pitching has been pretty decent except for Homerun Derby Porcello. Miley has been steady, Rodriguez has been pretty solid, and Buchholz has been simply outstanding. They're still leaving an ungodly number of guys on base but there's been enough timely hitting with some good power to keep one of the best streaks of the year going against some good teams. The best thing is the young guys have been showing some real promise including Travis Shaw who just came up from Triple A Pawtucket yesterday and went 3 for 4. All good signs for future years.

Xander Bogaerts makes All-Star case, lifts Red Sox to win

http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/red-...erts-makes-all-star-case-lifts-red-sox-to-win

BOSTON -- Don't call it a comeback just yet, but the signs are encouraging.

Wade Miley had done his job, but the Boston Red Sox looked as though they were falling into bad habits again during the opener of a two-game series against the Miami Marlins. For the better part of the first half of the season, something's always been missing from a Red Sox winning formula, and Tuesday's game almost marked another quality start done in by a lack of situational hitting.

Trailing 3-1 after leaving nine men on base through the first six innings, the Red Sox were in jeopardy of letting another chance fall into the wasted category as Xander Bogaerts stepped in against Marlins right-handed reliever Carter Capps with the bases loaded and two outs in the seventh.

After newly minted All-Star Brock Holt struck out looking, it was the All-Star hopeful, Bogaerts, who provided the hit the Red Sox needed to run their winning streak to three games with a 4-3 victory.

"I don't know, Red Sox fans vote a lot for their guys, and hopefully they voted a lot tonight," Bogaerts said after the win, referencing the fan vote which will determine whether there's a trip to Cincinnati in store for him next week.

Facing Capps, a flamethrower who has a delivery like a kangaroo bounding off the rubber, Bogaerts was ahead in the count, 3-0, before engaging in a battle, fending off a slew of fastballs in an eight-pitch at-bat.

Bogaerts expected a slider, but hoped for the best.

"You don't know what to expect until you're up there hitting," he said of Capps' unorthodox motion.

He added, "I was just hoping that he didn't throw a slider there because I hadn't seen it yet, but he threw a fastball."

Bogaerts (2-for-4, double, 3 RBIs) lined a single to center, clearing the bases as Mookie Betts was off with the 3-2 pitch from first base. It was the team's first three-run single since the 2008 American League Division Series.

The Red Sox (40-45) climbed to within five games of the New York Yankees in the AL East standings, and a three-game series looms against the Yankees this weekend before the All-Star break.


CONGRATULATIONS Brock Holt on making the All-Star team. You deserve it. Perhaps Xander Bogaerts will join there.

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Speaking of Red Sox, Yankees, both teams had a game last night.

Michael Pineda pitched a solid 6 1/3 innings giving up 7 hits and 1 ER, as the Yankees topped the Red Sox, 5-1. Alex Rodriguez hit his 17th HR. Pineda is 9-5, 3.64 ERA.

Brett Gardner will be at the All-Star game replacing the Royal's Alex Gordon, who is on the DL.

Here;s a video with fans describing the NY Boston rivalry.

[video]http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:13233402[/video]
 

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Speaking of Red Sox, Yankees, both teams had a game last night.

Michael Pineda pitched a solid 6 1/3 innings giving up 7 hits and 1 ER, as the Yankees topped the Red Sox, 5-1. Alex Rodriguez hit his 17th HR. Pineda is 9-5, 3.64 ERA.

Brett Gardner will be at the All-Star game replacing the Royal's Alex Gordon, who is on the DL.

Here;s a video with fans describing the NY Boston rivalry.

[video]http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:13233402[/video]

It was a highlight reel HR as he absolutely crushed it, it looked like he it out of the entire stadium, he should be in the All-Star game for the fantastic season that he he has had especially at 39(IMHO).

Reality.
 

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Young Rob Refsnyder gets the start tonight at 2b for his first major league experience. Good luck kid, you are an inspiration to many adopted kids I am sure. Great story and i hope he makes it long term in the "Show"

Who's next? Aaron Judge? Luis Severino? Greg Bird? Gary Sanchez? The future is bright Yankees fans :thumb:
 

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BOYZ,

Do you think that Alex likes playing at Fenway, they should rename the stadium in his honor.:nod:

You mean: Takes A Needle In THE ASS. LOL! Sorry that name is copyrighted in the Bronx. You make me laugh boy. A guy gets kicked out of baseball for a year, no major league competition to stay sharp, then comes back to hit a large proportion of homers and not one hint of cheating accusations from you. As I said: Joe.t and honor is like a vampire in the sun. POOOF!!!

http://www.csnne.com/boston-red-sox/rodriguez-red-sox-beat-yankees-5-3-even-series

Okay. Nice pitching by Boston's 5-2 Eduardo Rodriguez, despite two homers, BEATING the vaunted 1-3 hero Ivan Nova. E Rodriguez has really only had a couple of innings of bad mistakes otherwise he's been pretty damn solid.

BOSTON - Eduardo Rodriguez allowed just two runs over 6 1/3 innings and the Red Sox got eight hits from the top five hitters in their lineup to beat back the New York Yankees, 5-3 and even their series at a game each.

Leading by a run in the seventh inning, the Sox got a run-scoring triple from Mookie Betts and an RBI single from Xander Bogaerts to provide them with some breathing room.

Junichi Tazawa, who yielded a run in the eighth, recorded four outs in relief of Rodriguez and Koji Uehara nailed down his 22nd save of the season.

Rodriguez, making his ninth big league start, improved to 5-2. The outing was only the third time that he allowed more than a run.

Alex Rodriguez launched a solo homer off him in the first. The only other run against the rookie came in the sixth when Jacoby Ellsbury hit his first career homer against the Sox.

Trailing 1-0, the Red Sox evened things in the third when Alejando De Aza singled, stole second, moved to third on a wild throw by catcher John Ryan Murphy and scored on Brock Holt's single to center.

The Sox took the lead for good in the bottom of the fourth as David Ortiz singled into the right field corner and scored when Hanley Ramirez hit a rocket into the home bullpen for his 19th homer and fourth in the last eight games.

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The NY Yankees took the famed rivalry series against the Boston Red Sox 2 games to 1, as Rookie Rob Refsnyder hit his first career HR. The run shot over the green monster and almost out of the stadium was a towering 2 run shot which proved to be the difference as the Yanks won 8-6. Heading into the All Star break, the Yanks are 3 1/2 games ahead of the 2nd place Tampa Bay Rays. They are 6 1/2 ahead of last place Boston, which has been playing not so bad ball lately. But the Yanks manage to be the stronger team in the series and in the season so far.
 

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New York in first place at the all-star break and on pace to win a very respectable 96 games, meanwhile the Red Sux in dead last place and on pace to lose 94 games, embarrassing and pathetic.:eek:

BTW- Congratulations to Farrell and Cherington on making it to the all-star break, the bad news is that the AXE awaits you(very soon).:nod:
 

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New York in first place at the all-star break and on pace to win a very respectable 96 games, meanwhile the Red Sux in dead last place and on pace to lose 94 games, embarrassing and pathetic.:eek:

BTW- Congratulations to Farrell and Cherington on making it to the all-star break, the bad news is that the AXE awaits you(very soon).:nod:

Joe, the Yankees are on target to win 88 games if they do the same as before the All Star break as they have played 88 games of the 162 game season.

Good news for the Yankees is they have 74 games left and 40 are at home and 34 are away. The Yankees are 25-16 at home and 23-24 away. That should boost their chances of winning 90 games or more.

The Red Sox are on target to a 76-86 record. The Red Sox are not a bad team. They made a few bad acquisitions like Sandoval and Porcello. Brock Holt who is playing great baseball for the Red Sox would have been a better choice for 3rd base than Sandoval. The Red Sox also have dead weight at first with Napoli. But if you look at their rookies like Betts, Bogaerts and Holt, they have interesting foundation. You wonder if Cheerington went shopping too fast too soon?

Anyhow, another interesting race is the NL Central between the Pittsburgh Pirates and the St. Louis Cardinals, which could be the 2 best teams in baseball with KC Royals being a close third.

The Pirates have the former Yankees Catchers Francisco Cervelli and Chris Stewart. Cervelli is batting .294 and Stewart .291. They share the catching duties with Cervelli being 1st string. Now you ask, are the Yankees in better shape with Brian McCann. Probably. McCann has more experience with handling pitchers and has more HR and RBI production, but I bet it was tough for Girardi to give Cervelli up. Cervelli is the same tough catcher as Girardi was.

Also, AJ Burnett has been pitching the lights out in Pittsburgh. He is 7-3 with an ERA of 2.11. The Pirates also have their home grown guys like All Stars Pitcher Gerald Cole and Center fielder Andrew McCutchen. The Pirates (.598 winning percentage) were 9 games back of the blazing hot St. Louis Cardinals (.638 winning percentage) and have a chance of being 3 1/2 games behind the Cardinals at the All Star break. It should be a hot race for the NL Central. The Cubs are trailing along 8 1/2 games at a respectable .545. It is very possible that both 2nd and 3rd place teams in the NL Central will play for the Wild Card.
 
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