Porn in the USA (no pun intended)

[azzaro]

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A 10 billion dollar industry flourishing because of the "otherwise prude" American women and "over-sexualized media" ...which can be called a fake reality show (USA).

Eastern Europe is where most of the "American porn" is being produced. They pay girls 100 Euros to a shoot a scene at most compared with 5000 here in the USA (50 times).

I was just in Eastern Europe and saw first hand Americans porn-producers taking advantage of these girls in Eastern Europe. Did not like what I saw. Americans do this wherever they go in the world. ..just take advantage...less than 5% of Americans travel to Europe. And when the Americans get caught overseas doing crimes of financial and physical nature.., Americans in general believe that the "world" hates the USA. So pathetic..so backward.

 

[hungry101]

That darn Marshall plan and how about that Lend Lease act? We are so terrible. Oh and what about NATO funding? This was awful. Look at the poor South Koreans. They had a chance to be a unified country and we stepped in. Americans are bad. Hang your head and drag your feet you nation of trouble makers.

 

[curly]

I'm not sure your data is correct Azzaro. I've shot some porn as a photographer. In Europe, unless you are talking about absolute amateurs off the internet with no experience, girls are paid at least 250 euro for solo and between 500 to 750 euro for boy girl. In north america, the standard rate for a girl in a boy-girl is $1000 per scene, more depending on fame or if interracial, anal, dp or other things are involved. So your 5000 (euro? Dollar?) would only be for renown girls doing fancy things, while your 100 euro maybe for an absolute unknown beginner amateur with no agent (and even there....).

So yes, indeed, going rates are lower in Europe than USA, but it isn't exactly 50 times...

Much has been written about this from credible sources. For e.g., read the recent article from Aurora Snow on Daily Beast about this: https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-much-money-do-porn-stars-actually-make?ref=author

 

[sharkman]

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I was just in Eastern Europe and saw first hand Americans porn-producers taking advantage of these girls in Eastern Europe. Did not like what I saw. Americans do this wherever they go in the world. ..just take advantage...less than 5% of Americans travel to Europe. And when the Americans get caught overseas doing crimes of financial and physical nature.., Americans in general believe that the "world" hates the USA. So pathetic..so backward.

Everytime time an American crosses over the border into Canada and comes to Montreal/Toronto to solicit and book escorts he is breaking the law!
Then they cry when they get caught or reported against!

 

[hungry101]

How would he know? I travel to EUROPE. Once I happened upon a set of two young euro babes giving a double BBBJ. Once the director said the equivalent of “cut” and they clicked that little chalkboard thingy and then the cheapskate director handed each girl what looked to be only 500 Euros. They looked so distraught. You mean I sucked this cock for only 500 Euros? The director looked at them and said “yes but the entire scene took 15 minutes. That’s 2000 Euros per hour. Not bad.”

Thanks God my interpreter was there.

 

[azzaro]

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Curly - 99% of porn is being produced in Eastern Europe where girls are a dime a dozen.

You hardly get any "top stars" in Europe for that reason making 750 a scene for longer than a few months.

There maybe a couple of dozen-short lived stars but that's about it. There are hundreds of thousands of girls there willing to do work for a 100 a scene (euro-dollar are very close). It's normal and legal and society accepts it as well...

Compared with prudish USA....Users of porn are 99% of the American males over 18...100 million of them.. ..which hardly get any sex...they spend 10 billion dollars to see porn.

 

[curly]

Where do you get your numbers from Azzaro? 99% produced in Europe? What about California and Florida?

Hardly get "top stars" making 750 a scene? You want me to show you my contracts?

I'm sure there are girls making 100 a scene, just like there are street walkers doing bbbj for $10, but it's far from being the norm.

 

[azzaro]

Name me a few "top stars" from Eastern Europe that lasted more than a couple of years?. There are none....

Almost all of the porn actresses in Eastern Europe have been given "American" names....to appeal to Americans (the biggest consumers...of PORN...100 million of them).

American porn industry in California and Florida is very very tiny compared with "cheaply available" girls in Eastern Europe...who look like Americans ..but AREN'T....that's where they film all AMERICAN porn.

I investigate..like nobody on this board...personally. I have talked to hundreds over there (actresses and newbies).

 

[curly]

Well, give me the names of the 100 euro girls, I'd like to work with them! That's cheaper than an escort!

 

[azzaro]

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Haha -curly. Those 100 Euro girls come to porn producers only when they need work (which is not most of the time)...You should know that if you have been to Prague and Budapest.

There are hundreds of thousands of them...They try to upsell themselves but crooked American porn producers who are probably the lowest form of human being on this planet...do not offer them more than that..a 100 Euro..or 120 US dollars.

Some American porn producers have good reputation. Some don't. Girls are very smart there...and unlike low-class American porn actresses , most in Eastern europe are quite educated and speak 2-5 languages.

 

[EagerBeaver]

It’s cheap labor and some of the girls are very hot. I have seen some of these Europorns and a lot of them are very good. They have cheap production values but the sex is usually done well.

 

[EagerBeaver]

In case anyone did not know what Azzaro is talking about this one is typical of this genre of porn film: the standard opening scene bribe in which the money is displayed, the amateurish, low budget production values, but the well executed doggy-style scene as well:

https://www.xvideos.com/video23264071/eurobabe_flashes_tits_and_pussy_fucked_for_a_few_bucks

Here is another one, same genre, with a redheaded Czech girl:

https://www.xvideos.com/video11788807/redhead_czech_girl_alice_march_gets_banged_for_some_cash

 

[hungry101]

It’s not a level playing field. I’m waiting for Trump to slap a tariff on all off shore porn until we get equal pay for equal porn. They are literally dumping their porn here! And I don’t mean cum-dumping!!!

 

[donbusch]

Some of those euro porn babes r hot!!! I will pay 500 euros to film them doing nasty perverted stuff to me. As an artist and for quality assurance purposes, I’ll be sure to do many many multiple film retakes

 

[EagerBeaver]

Some of those euro porn babes r hot!!! I will pay 500 euros to film them doing nasty perverted stuff to me. As an artist and for quality assurance purposes, I’ll be sure to do many many multiple film retakes

Hopefully your films will have better production values than the 2 I posted in #12 above. The sex scenes are well executed but the photography could be better.

 

[donbusch]

Hopefully your films will have better production values than the 2 I posted in #12 above. The sex scenes are well executed but the photography could be better.

Yeah, production value is a tough nut to crack, it can make or break the ‘money shot’.

I often find myself gravitating back to Japanese porn, a lot more genres and productions values have improved immensely over the years.

 

[jalimon]

I often find myself gravitating back to Japanese porn, a lot more genres and productions values have improved immensely over the years.

Do i ever agree! I have no interest at all in american bimbo douche bag porn. Very little in eastern european porn but my god once you discover stuff site like r18 does there is no turning back. They do the best porn by far!!

 

[J.A. Prufrock]

For penetrative sex work, their wages have been increasing significantly.

Here's an article I wrote about penetrative sex work throughout the world, based on several years of viewing a whole hell of a lot of it:

https://www.tuscl.net/article.php?id=56169

 

[J.A. Prufrock]

@Patron, this is a great question, one I posed in that article. There are still sites that charge, but you'd have to be a sucker to pay for that when there's so much free stuff available. And a lot of the stuff on pay sites is available for free somewhere else if you do a Google search.
I think a lot of the porn today is simply being done by amateurs who either aren't getting paid or making no more than what an escort or MP would be paid for a half hour or hour (of course, the escorts and MPs can keep their occupation a secret whereas once you do porn, it will always be out there somewhere).
As for the higher-end ladies in the business, maybe they supplement their income by escorting and/or stripping because I can't imagine doing just videos is that much of a windfall.

 

[EagerBeaver]

The only porn sites I look at are the free ones. There are good vids on some sites and they have powerful search engines enabling you to focus your search. I too have wondered how anyone is making money on porn these days.