Positive discussion about the hobby : Illusions VS Sincerity

[daydreamer41]

Elizabeth,

Absolutely! In fact, I think the best case is when both the hobbyist and the SP feel the same way about each other. That is chemistry, which leads to a short term relationship. That is the Holly Gail for a hobbyist. On the other hand, a long term relationship relies on “Trust” and “Honesty”.

The other point I’d like to make have to do with my choice of words:

“Sincerity” is a perception, however, it is not necessary based on facts. On the other hand, “Honesty” relies on some facts that have been checked out. Now, to be “genuine sincere” does not mean to be “brutally honest”. So those white lies between two parties become the essential part of the short-term relationship. It makes the fantasy comes true, an illusion no more.

It's all chemistry and circumstance. The lonely SP and the lonely hobbyist. They may not fall in love in the classic sense, but I have connected with SPs on a human level, even in Montreal where my native language and her native language was not the same, but we could communicate with her struggle with English. I took time to relate to a SP who was feeling somewhat depressed and overwhelmed. It uplifted me and her. But those moments are the exception and not the rule.

But I don't think it is possible to have a relationship with an SP as long as she is an SP and you are a hobbiest, because as it was said by Doc H. and Daringly, No money, no lady and no sex. A love relationship is where money is a responsibility taken on by both the woman and the man collectively. The moment you don't have money for her for the sex part, the relationship, the sex and she are gone.

 

[Bucky]

Aujourd'hui fut ma derniere expérience avec une pro, ce que j'apréhendais c'est confirmé après quelques essais, je ne peux pas avoir de relation sexuelle satisfaisante si je ne suis pas émotionellement lié a cette personne, donc rideau pour moi mais je vais continuer a vous lire avec intérêt.

Asta la vista, baby

 

[daydreamer41]

I think the question of why a guy pays for sex is missing in this thread. I for one do it for the fantasy of having a younger firm and beautiful girl making love to me. 25 years ago these girls were my age. But at this point of my life, the odds of scoring with a beautiful young woman without paying is not high. Even when I was younger, I have to admit while many of the girls I dated were pretty, some were average, none of them were drop dead gorgeous except for one. And it did not last. So it really is a fantasy, even for younger guys. Sure love is the best reason to make love. But let's face it, guys are horny bastards.

 

[skywalker]

Fantasy gets you paid

daydreamer41,

We are on the same page.

... The fantasy having an “intimate” relationship with someone desirable (vs beautiful) is all the hobbyists want. This intimacy can be only physical (sex acts such as GFE services), emotionally (kisses, caring, sharing lifetime achievements , etc) or even both.


In order to share an “intimate” relationship with someone, some level of “Sincerity” is expected from the opposite party. ...
It is not all about friction and lubrication. It is more about the level of sincerity, intimacy and illusion.

Fantasy is what hobbyist pays the SP for. For you, having sex with a gorgeous young woman is your ultimate fantasy.

In fact, I have generalized that beauty (I referred as being desirable) and sex acts (the mechanical services) are major parts of the fantasy. But to make it work, the SP has to act “sincere” and really into what she is doing.

The reason for my choice of words.

Someone "desirable" to you may not do the same for everyone. For example, just consider the age category.
18-19 SPs, you will find a few hobbyists saying they are too young.
mid-20s SPs, you will find some hobbyists saying they are not young enough.
MILF SPs, you will find most hobbyists saying they are too old.

Have you ever noticed that if someone gets a genuine GFE service, the beauty scale usually shoots up a notch or 2? It is the old saying "Beauty is in the eye of Beholder”, or having a good “Chemistry”.

 

[CocaCola]

Elizabeth

Interesting thread. I think the best experiences I have had have been with interesting and conversant Sps who had something interesting and compelling and real to share in their own lives. It just feels better when there is some intamacy there. Encounters where the Sp didnt say much or obviously was intellectually, socially, emotionally disadvantaged always end up being a bit of a downer.

I always think to myself when I see Hugh Hefner's girlfriends on TV that it must suck having to date them cause they are so extremely vacant, they have nothing in there life that is genuine or intersting. Ive dated some attractive women (no sex) that had nothing going on or they had know idea of what the reality of the world is like. After I got to know them I lost all interest.

So it takes more than looks, it takes an interesting, charming, engaging woman to be a fun time, at least for me.

Maybe the fantasy and the real world cross a bit for me as I want this engaging woman in both. The fantasy really is not about a beautiful woman as much as it is about being totally free from responsibility.

Of course some guys just want the sex too.

 

[BookerL]

Adult entertainment isn't a fit for everyone ?
Reading this thread shows it well ?

Good Luck
Happy Hobbying not dating !lol

Cheers
Booker

 

[starry]

Great thread. Thanks for posting.
Don't know that I am any the wiser for having read it but I am probably better informed.