Presidential run 2020.

[minutemenX]

I consider hypocrisy as the most disgusting sin. I hate politicians that prostitute themselves through populist gestures. The same people did and will not hesitate sending troops to faraway places where thousands are killed because it looked good for their “patriotic” image. It is OK not to have “progressive” views, just don’t claim moral superiority pretending that you are standing on a higher ground.

 

[sene5hos]

They knelt in a specific context, (8.46 minutes). We have seen lots of people all over the world, kneeling on the ground. Not only politicians.

There is nothing religious in this gesture.

It's certain that we are in an electoral period, so any of the actions that will be taken, both by the Democrats and by the Republicans, will be judged.

 

[sene5hos]

I consider hypocrisy as the most disgusting sin. I hate politicians that prostitute themselves through populist gestures. The same people did and will not hesitate sending troops to faraway places where thousands are killed because it looked good for their “patriotic” image. It is OK not to have “progressive” views, just don’t claim moral superiority pretending that you are standing on a higher ground.

I agree with you.
You say "I hate politicians that prostitute themselves through populist gestures" Yet that's exactly what Trump is doing.
So I don't understand why you said, "I don’t like Trump, but to vote for him". It seems to me that if you don't like Trump, you don't vote for him. I also don't like Trump so I won't vote for him.
You seem to me to be an intelligent man with a nice mental structure, so when you heard Trump say that it would be a good idea to eliminate the coronavirus from drinking disinfectant or introducing a UV lamp in your body, you must have flipped? . And this is the tip of the iceberg.

 

[minutemenX]

You may like Trump or not, but he is much less hypocritical than Biden and the democrats. I don’t like Trump as a person, but I agree with many (not all) his political decisions. So, you at the end vote not for the person but for the political direction.

Yes, Trump is an eccentric and a clown. So what? Churchill was eccentric and alcoholic. John Kennedy was a womanizer. This is what we remember them for? Trump is actually the first president for about 30 years that did not make any major policy mistakes internally or externally. I can give you a long list of political blunders and lost opportunities starting with Clinton that cost this country tremendous wealth and many lives and even endanger its present and future existence. Thus, I prefer clown with right policy decisions to a smooth-talking guy with seemingly good intentions that pave road to hell.

 

[sene5hos]

I understand now, you prefer to have a clown at the head of the most powerful country in the world. A country like USA must have the best president.

I see that you are in favor of the concept "it is better to speak badly about it, than not to speak about it at all"
And let me tell you that it works, because almost everywhere in the world, I have never heard so much bad talk about a president.

Do you remember that US senators, worried about the possibility of Donald Trump starting a nuclear war, discussed the issue in Congress.
Is Donald Trump too unstable to access the nuclear button? A debate in itself unprecedented: never happened since 1976, in the middle of the Cold War, this question had not been the subject of a hearing in Congress.

A fear shared by many elected officials. The meeting was hosted by the chairman of the US Senate Foreign Affairs Committee, Bob Corker (is an American businessman and politician, member of the Republican Party). The latter had expressed the fear that Trump would lead the country right "towards the third world war".

 

[The Nature Boy]

Guys like corker are actual real republicans who left cause they know they’d get jeff sessionEd if they stuck around. Trumps pretty much hijacked the party.

 

[minutemenX]

Do you remember that US senators, worried about the possibility of Donald Trump starting a nuclear war, discussed the issue in Congress.
Is Donald Trump too unstable to access the nuclear button? ".

This are all empty words of his opponents to scare people. The reality is just opposite. Tramp had an ample opportunity to start wars in Syria, with N. Korea, and most recently with Iran. Remember what he said when Iranians shot down the most expensive $200M US drone? They asked him why US did not retaliate against Iranian air defenses. He said they killed no Americans with this action and if we retaliate, we will kill a lot of people and no hardware is worth of killing people. It says to me volumes. He is trying hard to bring American troops from hell holes in the Middle East. Name any major Tramp’s policy moves that were harmful to this country. I see none. The “disrespect” shown by the world toward Trump is worth nothing as soon as they are forced to go along. I think that Trump is trolling the whole world with his seemingly bizarre statements. He definitely enjoys it. Discussing US president without analyzing and discussing implications of his policy is skin deep as at the end the only direction where he is taking this country meters.

 

[Longeldak]

Trumps pretty much hijacked the party.

That's right. Trump hijacked the party that was headed for certain defeat in 2016 and led it to victory. For that unforgivable crime, he deserves to be impeached, no question.

 

[The Nature Boy]

How do u know it was destined for defeat? Lol!?! Kaisich coulda beat billiary

 

[The Nature Boy]

Low energy Jeb coulda beat billiary! Lol

 

[Longeldak]

Trump won -- in large part -- by being able to find common language with the blue-collar workers in the Rust Belt. I don't think anyone else could have done that.

 

[The Nature Boy]

How do you know what woulda happened? He “led” the republican party? Lol!! Wtf?? No one would even come speak on his behalf @‘convention!!! Who did he lead??

 

[The Nature Boy]

He had this guy and F’ing “Charles in Charge /Chachi from happy days” speak for him....look out there may be a dump pence movement @ the convention!!!

 

[Longeldak]

No one would even come speak on his behalf @‘convention!!!

You got that right. No one at all.

 

[The Nature Boy]

Except Charles in charge and ck tighty whitey guy

 

[purplem]

That's right. Trump hijacked the party that was headed for certain defeat in 2016 and led it to victory. For that unforgivable crime, he deserves to be impeached, no question.

Unless my hunch is wrong, hello Bred.

 

[Longeldak]

Unless my hunch is wrong, hello Bred.

What is this supposed to mean?

 

[purplem]

It means that the subject of Trump often makes people, depending on how they were Bred, Sob.

 

[EagerBeaver]

He is trying hard to bring American troops from hell holes in the Middle East.

This is actually one major policy decision of Trump's with which I agree. I was heavily criticized for this by many posters (mostly Canadians) who seem to believe that the United States has moral duties to save various oppressed minority groups in the Middle East. Especially in this thread:

https://merb.cc/xenforo/threads/the-kurds.186810/page-2#post-1234367

They seek to perpetuate the fallacious notion that such duties exist and the USA should act as a "police" force in the region, while they and the other western countries contribute fucking nada in tax dollars and man power to that supposed "cause". You don't get to talk shit when you don't put up money and men. While this one policy decision of Trump is not enough to get me to vote for him, it was the correct decision and is in the best interests of our country. As I said in the other thread:

This is exactly the point......when a country intervenes in a fucked up situation, it's usually on the naive, simplistic and patronizing belief that its intervention will be somehow beneficial and ameliorative in the situation. But what ends up happening, time and time again, is the intervening country unwittingly become a part of the "fucked up situation with more episodes to come", and in the process spends tons and tons of taxpayer monies while imposing repeated human sacrifices on its military. Yet after all of that, in the end, there is no benefit to anyone, and no amelioration of the fucked up situation, and the situation continues to be fucked up. So at a certain point you have to look at history and say we are not going to repeat these mistakes, instead, we are just going to take a pass on it. And forget about it.

 

[donbusch]

Agree that the Middle East is a fucked up, no-win situation for US troops. Howver, under President Trump, there are now more troops in the Middle East than when he firsr took office in 2016. Thanks in no small part to Trump’s reckless decision to walk away from the nuclear agreement that Obama signed w/ Iran.

Despite Vow to End ‘Endless Wars,’ Here’s Where About 200,000 Troops Remain (Published 2019)

Under President Trump, there are now more troops in the Middle East than when he took office, and he has continued the mission for tens of thousands of others far from the wars of 9/11.

www.nytimes.com

After needlessly provoking Iran into harrasing oil tankers in the Strait of Hormuz & targeting US military assets; Trump demonstrated to the entire Arab world that he only pretends to be a tough guy on TV when after Iran’s missile on a US military base, he shamefully downplayed the traumatic brain injuries suffered by US troops as headaches and not very serious.

Trump says he doesn’t consider brain injuries sustained by US troops during Iran missile barrage ‘serious’

Trump told a reporter that, compared to amputated limbs, he didn't consider traumatic brain injury serious.

www.militarytimes.com

To make things worse, the only place that Trump is planning to withdraw US troops from, is Germany! Maybe he’s afraid that US troops might die of too much bier & FKK.

22 House Republicans Urge Trump Not to Pull US Troops Out of Germany

Republicans are urging a reversal of the decision to pull 9,500 U.S. troops out of Germany.

news.yahoo.com

I’m enough of a realist to still recognize the accomplishments & value of deeply flawed, morally challenged Presidents like Kennedy, Nixon, Clinton. But Trump’s stupidity & incompetence is a total dealbreaker.