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Bred Sob

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After asking "do may a favor" and talking about Biden and we to not know what else was on the call since its not a full transcript and he will not allow anyone that was on the call to testify (hide the rest of it).

And one final point on that. Let us assume (for the sake of the argument) that you meant to say "do me a favor". I have news for you: that phrase is not to be found in the transcript either. Despite being frequently employed by Trump haters of all flavors, this is a distortion of his words.

Trump never said "do me a favor", meaning that he never asked for a personal favor. What Trump said in reality was "do us a favor", obviously (look at the context) meaning the country. Maybe once in a while it would not hurt to check out the original source. Your conspiracy theory regarding "blackmail" does not hold water, alas...
 

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By Withholding Funds to Ukraine, Trump Broke the Law
The Government Accountability Office says Trump's spending delay was illegal.
https://reason.com/2020/01/16/by-withholding-funds-to-ukraine-trump-broke-the-law
If i go through a stop sign and a cop catches me.i get a ticket>if i go to court and the judge finds that the cop had no proof
or posably was not wearing his prescription glasses that day i get aqquited.
this is exactly what happened to Trump.
Ukraine was not told hey i am holding back money,if there was a delay tehere was no imaact and again tit is common practice to hold back for a short period and if someone had the ability to check like was told in the congress
trump did nothing wrong
there was no crime
there was no victim
there was no case
proof is Trump is still President
 

Sol Tee Nutz

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Dave in Phoenix and GMA: The posts the two of you make are always well-articulated, factual and logical. In fact, they are pretty much the opposite of the style used by Trump, Fox News and the uninformed gullible souls who fall for Trump's lies. Let's hope that more Americans begin to research the facts as you two have done.

To CB and Bred... Superb questions and replies to the others who
post here. Very informative and challenges their posts. Let me get the vibrating egg out of my butt... Ahhhhh.
 

C.B. Brown

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The democrats went into this impeachment... the 1[SUP]st[/SUP] impeachment ever unbound by the criminal law
Taking this radical step they owed the country the most fair and pain staking process
The most rigorous investigation the most bipartisan effort
Instead we got the people got the the exact opposite
The house managers argued that the president could not have been acting in the national interest
Because he acted inconsistently with their own conception of the national interest.
So this is where the line of reality gets blurred.
when facts get exchanged for personal interpretations and what someone feels a person actually meant when in black and white we see what he actually said .
transcript is on line for everyone to see
 

C.B. Brown

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There is a process to remove a president its called a election
Something the democrats failed to do 4 yrs ago
And sell the American people their vision .
Its understandable considering president Donald trumps remarkable achievements
democrats felt they need to stoop to a low and try remove him from the race
with false allegations which were unproved.realizing they could not defeat him at the ballot box.
But to rip the choice away from the voters because they felt they might lose again is wrong.
quoting 1 democrat ‘’if we don’t impeach him he might get re elected’’
impeachment is not for invoking over a whim and to settle a 3 yr old score.

This insults the founding fathers design.
Its hard to believe that the democrats felt that this reckless process would yield enough votes
Was their vision so clouded they felt this would actually work for the 1[SUP]st[/SUP] presidential removal
In American history. Or was this a attempt to hijack the institutions for a 1 month rally.
The American people have witnessed a abuse of power of a house majority that the founding fathers warned of.
 

jalimon

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So C.B. absolutely everything Trump says on Twitter and/or on his daily speeches is the absolute truth?

Don't you think he is not at all time bullshitting half truth or outright lies because he knows more then anyone that facts don't matter to him and his crew? He knows that by repeating his bullshit long enough it will be interpreted as the only truth. In other word Trump is a true magician at getting facts exchanged for personal interpretations.

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C.B. Brown

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So C.B. absolutely everything Trump says on Twitter and/or on his daily speeches is the absolute truth?
I stick with the facts rather than opinions
the average person lies 1.6x a day.now to determine what is fact and fiction is another story.


 

Bred Sob

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Then statistically we have finally found somewhere that Trump does

I am not sure how to interpret this sequence of words -- or whether it is meant to be subject to any interpretation.

In any case, for a sane observer it is not very difficult to find something that Trump does far more than the average person. Running for president and getting elected would be a good example.
 

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I am not sure how to interpret this sequence of words -- or whether it is meant to be subject to any interpretation.

Perhaps his idols can give meaning to it for us, I am sure the professor will give a glowing translation and weave his magic to show how despicable that liar Trump is and that he should be impeached a couple of more times. Good thing is they will all have 4 more years soon to get this impeachment process right, in hind sight it made sense to have had a practice run, after all the tax payers have nothing better to spend their money on.
 

Bred Sob

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Thank you, Fradi, I was afraid it was just me. Having to communicate in a foreign language is always a struggle...
 

jalimon

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Thank you, Fradi, I was afraid it was just me. Having to communicate in a foreign language is always a struggle...

You had to communicate in a foreign language? When? where? Show us the thread.

Cheers,
 

Sol Tee Nutz

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^^^^^^^Up 2 .Just might be me but a " foreign language " could mean that it was just not understood and in the correct language, sarcasm maybe. Perhaps.
 

Bred Sob

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Just might be me but a " foreign language " could mean that it was just not understood and in the correct language. Perhaps.

Sorry, I am thoroughly confused by now. His words seem to be English, but the phrase not so much. I can never be too sure as English is not my first language.
 

Bred Sob

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Good thing is they will all have 4 more years soon to get this impeachment process right, in hind sight it made sense to have had a practice run, after all the tax payers have nothing better to spend their money on.

Speaking of practice runs, I suppose we may well see more of those, but it seems that right now the Republicans may have finally decided to go on a counterattack. Biden fils will most likely have to answer some interesting questions in front of the Senate. His financial records as well as travel information have already been subpoenaed. Probably a few more characters will make an appearance as well. So the game is getting a little more competitive, always a welcome sight for the spectators.
 

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Sorry, I am thoroughly confused by now. His words seem to be English, but the phrase not so much. I can never be too sure as English is not my first language.

He meant that somewhere statistically it has been proven that Trump lies far more than the average person.
What a surprise, he is now a politician after all and these guys of course always tell the absolute truth.
We are not accustomed to unfulfilled promises from politicians or to doubt their word.

I understood it but you are right it could have been way clearer.
 
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